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"Sockman"

27/02/2004 3:04 AM

FS Tablesaw

I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
220 volt.

My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor at
120 volt so I'm going to swap them.

The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and the
smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.

I paid $199 for the Craftsman saw about four years ago. I'm hoping to get
maybe $150 out of it, but I'd drop a few bucks if you want to put the motor
on yourself. It is a damned good saw and the only reason I'm selling it is
to get the Delta Unit saw to make cabinets. It has a bigger fence so I can
cut plywood easier.

I'm located in western Mass and own a small delivery service. I cover all
of New England and New York so I can arrange delivery of the saw in that
area. .

Ralph Engerman
RE Quick Transit


This topic has 37 replies

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

26/02/2004 9:11 PM

Nice cast.

--
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop


"Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0ty%[email protected]...
> I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
> 220 volt.
>
> My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
> at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
> excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
> volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor
at
> 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
>
> The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and the
> smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.
>
> I paid $199 for the Craftsman saw about four years ago. I'm hoping to get
> maybe $150 out of it, but I'd drop a few bucks if you want to put the
motor
> on yourself. It is a damned good saw and the only reason I'm selling it
is
> to get the Delta Unit saw to make cabinets. It has a bigger fence so I
can
> cut plywood easier.
>
> I'm located in western Mass and own a small delivery service. I cover all
> of New England and New York so I can arrange delivery of the saw in that
> area. .
>
> Ralph Engerman
> RE Quick Transit
>
>

mm

"mp"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 1:40 AM

> My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
> at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
> excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
> volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor
at
> 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.

Naw, the Sears rating is overly optimistic. What you're suggesting is
equivalent to putting a Yugo engine in a Vette.

What you need to do is get another 220v motor and run the two in series.
This will halve your voltage requirement per motor and allow you pull a
total of 6hp off of your 120v lines.

Mm

"Montyhp"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 11:03 PM


"RE Quick Transit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bKR%[email protected]...
>
> "George Berlinger" <[email protected]>
> > Cheaper for you to run some wire for a new 220 line
> > Motors probably won,t fit right anyway.......
> >
>
> I thought abou tis George, but it is tough getting the big wire out to the
> garage. I have a simple solution though.
>
> I took some extra lunch time at work and got the saw home. It took four
of
> us to lift it into the backof the SUV. I feel kind of silly, it is a
> UniSaw, not a unit saw. I got both motors out already. That was easy
> enough, but you are right, they are not fully compatible. So, I'm going
to
> do a little modification. Seems the Delta has a three belt drive system
but
> the Craftsman has direct drive.
>
> Since the direct drive is more efficient than the friction loss of the
belt
> system, I'm converting it to the direct drive. Should have less vibration
> too. I only have to drill four holes in the table top to mount it and
I'll
> use countersunk screws.
>
> Note to Fred M.
> If you are still interested in the Craftsman saw, I'll sell it to you
cheap,
> but the adjusting system for the blade is going into the new saw. Let me
> know.
>
> Ralph Engerman
> R E Quick Transit
>

Hey! I'm enjoying this! So much better than the potty mouthed spammer!

Montyhp
>

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 8:59 AM

Sockman speaks thusly:

>'m selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
>220 volt.
>
>My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
>at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
>excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
>volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor at
>120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
>
>The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and the
>smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.
>
>I paid $199 for the Craftsman saw about four years ago.

That electric boat motor is almost silent until the swap.


Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

RQ

"RE Quick Transit"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 8:29 PM


"Paul Kierstead" <[email protected]>
>
> Y'know, I must be gullible. I didn't think so, but I read this twice
> before I figured out that you weren't serious.
>
> I hope.

Well I am serious and just posted a pictur for the doubter. I'm almost
reayd to go and start building cabinets with the cabinet saw. Only thing to
do now is fix the fence.

My Craftsman saw had a solid fence that locked on both ends. Like Ron
Popiele says, you just "set it and forget it". Not so with the Bee's Meyer
fence. The damned thing only grabs on the front and the back just waves
around. I'd be afraid to cut iwth it becuase it probably can't follow the
pencil line very well. I'm going to devise a clampof some sort for the
loose end. I think I'll drill some holes inthe table top and put a bolt
through sticking up, right through the Bee's Meyer fench. I can just set it
tot he right dimension and tighten it down with a ratchet and then clamp the
front.

By tomorrow, I'll be makin' sawdust.

Relph Engerman
R E Quick Transit

cn

"codepath"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

26/02/2004 8:33 PM

FYI: It's "Unisaw" not "Unit saw".





"Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0ty%[email protected]...
> I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
> 220 volt.
>
> My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
> at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
> excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
> volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor
at
> 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
>
> The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and the
> smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.
>
> I paid $199 for the Craftsman saw about four years ago. I'm hoping to get
> maybe $150 out of it, but I'd drop a few bucks if you want to put the
motor
> on yourself. It is a damned good saw and the only reason I'm selling it
is
> to get the Delta Unit saw to make cabinets. It has a bigger fence so I
can
> cut plywood easier.
>
> I'm located in western Mass and own a small delivery service. I cover all
> of New England and New York so I can arrange delivery of the saw in that
> area. .
>
> Ralph Engerman
> RE Quick Transit
>
>

GB

"George Berlinger"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 3:54 PM

My old Sears contractor saw(10 yrs old)....could be wired for 120 or
220...( ran mine on 220).said it could develop 3 h.p.,.....had cast iron
wings too, not like the junk they sell now.
My new Unit saw ( Alias Unisaw) is a hand down winner.....doesn,t bog
in 5/4 oak......has cast iron wings n table to boot....cabinet saw,....there
is no comparision between the saws; the Unisaw is much better.
Cheaper for you to run some wire for a new 220 line
Motors probably won,t fit right anyway.......


"Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0ty%[email protected]...
> I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
> 220 volt.
>
> My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
> at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
> excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
> volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor
at
> 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
>
> The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and the
> smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.
>
> I paid $199 for the Craftsman saw about four years ago. I'm hoping to get
> maybe $150 out of it, but I'd drop a few bucks if you want to put the
motor
> on yourself. It is a damned good saw and the only reason I'm selling it
is
> to get the Delta Unit saw to make cabinets. It has a bigger fence so I
can
> cut plywood easier.
>
> I'm located in western Mass and own a small delivery service. I cover all
> of New England and New York so I can arrange delivery of the saw in that
> area. .
>
> Ralph Engerman
> RE Quick Transit
>
>

cn

"codepath"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 5:10 PM

This a re-cast! Get a different hobby besides trolling and woodworking. How
about scrapbooking?





"RE Quick Transit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bKR%[email protected]...
>
> "George Berlinger" <[email protected]>
> > Cheaper for you to run some wire for a new 220 line
> > Motors probably won,t fit right anyway.......
> >
>
> I thought abou tis George, but it is tough getting the big wire out to the
> garage. I have a simple solution though.
>
> I took some extra lunch time at work and got the saw home. It took four
of
> us to lift it into the backof the SUV. I feel kind of silly, it is a
> UniSaw, not a unit saw. I got both motors out already. That was easy
> enough, but you are right, they are not fully compatible. So, I'm going
to
> do a little modification. Seems the Delta has a three belt drive system
but
> the Craftsman has direct drive.
>
> Since the direct drive is more efficient than the friction loss of the
belt
> system, I'm converting it to the direct drive. Should have less vibration
> too. I only have to drill four holes in the table top to mount it and
I'll
> use countersunk screws.
>
> Note to Fred M.
> If you are still interested in the Craftsman saw, I'll sell it to you
cheap,
> but the adjusting system for the blade is going into the new saw. Let me
> know.
>
> Ralph Engerman
> R E Quick Transit
>
>

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 6:14 PM

Doh!

Get rag ... clean monitor ... get fresh coffee

--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com


"BM Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BC64399F.5FE9%[email protected]...
> I forgot to ask -- was this a 10 inch unit saw?
>
>
> On 2/26/04 11:51 PM, in article BC6436E4.5FE3%[email protected], "BM
> Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thank god for that clarification. My johnson shriveled up at the
thought of
> > a "Unit saw"...
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/26/04 10:33 PM, in article [email protected],
"codepath"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> FYI: It's "Unisaw" not "Unit saw".
> >
> >
>
>

sj

[email protected] (joe doe)

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 11:35 AM

One time I think I dug up how they spec these fantasticlly high HP ratings
and I believe the answer was...

1)run motor with no load present to the top end speed
2)Instantly clamp the shaft
3)Measure the peak current draw right before the windings vaporize
4)ta da! PEAK HP

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 4:51 AM

Sockman,

I seriously doubt the craftsman motor is bigger than the Delta. If the
craftsman motor is 120volt, then it couldn't possibly be more than 1 3/4
horsepower. Craftsman invented the overrating of motors through marketing
hype.

I would say the delta motor is almost twice the power of the craftsman
motor. You will be underpowering the delta saw and creating a danger by
putting the bigger motor in the craftsman saw which may not be built to
handle it.

Leave the Delta motor where it is and arrange to get 220 volt to it.

Bob


"Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0ty%[email protected]...
> I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
> 220 volt.
>
> My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
> at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
> excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
> volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor
at
> 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
>
> The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and the
> smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.
>
> I paid $199 for the Craftsman saw about four years ago. I'm hoping to get
> maybe $150 out of it, but I'd drop a few bucks if you want to put the
motor
> on yourself. It is a damned good saw and the only reason I'm selling it
is
> to get the Delta Unit saw to make cabinets. It has a bigger fence so I
can
> cut plywood easier.
>
> I'm located in western Mass and own a small delivery service. I cover all
> of New England and New York so I can arrange delivery of the saw in that
> area. .
>
> Ralph Engerman
> RE Quick Transit
>
>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 1:00 AM

RE Quick Transit wrote:

> do a little modification. Seems the Delta has a three belt drive system
> but the Craftsman has direct drive.
>
> Since the direct drive is more efficient than the friction loss of the
> belt system, I'm converting it to the direct drive. Should have less

Next time warn people. I just had my wisdom teeth cut out, and it hurts
like hell to smile. That was cruel and unusual punishment.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

BC

BM Cooper

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

26/02/2004 11:51 PM

Thank god for that clarification. My johnson shriveled up at the thought of
a "Unit saw"...



On 2/26/04 10:33 PM, in article [email protected], "codepath"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> FYI: It's "Unisaw" not "Unit saw".

BC

BM Cooper

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 12:02 AM

I forgot to ask -- was this a 10 inch unit saw?


On 2/26/04 11:51 PM, in article BC6436E4.5FE3%[email protected], "BM
Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank god for that clarification. My johnson shriveled up at the thought of
> a "Unit saw"...
>
>
>
> On 2/26/04 10:33 PM, in article [email protected], "codepath"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> FYI: It's "Unisaw" not "Unit saw".
>
>

Mi

"Mike in Mystic"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 10:57 AM

hehe, exactly what I was thinking right off the bat. Looks like Ralph
caught himself some of the wreck's big fish today hehe.


"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nice cast.
>
> --
> Bill Pounds
> http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop
>
>
> "Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:0ty%[email protected]...
> > I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will
be
> > 220 volt.
> >
> > My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A
guy
> > at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good
deal,
> > excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to
120
> > volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse
motor
> at
> > 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
> >
> > The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and the
> > smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.
> >
> > I paid $199 for the Craftsman saw about four years ago. I'm hoping to
get
> > maybe $150 out of it, but I'd drop a few bucks if you want to put the
> motor
> > on yourself. It is a damned good saw and the only reason I'm selling it
> is
> > to get the Delta Unit saw to make cabinets. It has a bigger fence so I
> can
> > cut plywood easier.
> >
> > I'm located in western Mass and own a small delivery service. I cover
all
> > of New England and New York so I can arrange delivery of the saw in that
> > area. .
> >
> > Ralph Engerman
> > RE Quick Transit
> >
> >
>
>

JE

"Jon Endres, PE"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 8:38 AM


"Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0ty%[email protected]...
> I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
> 220 volt.

OK.

> My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
> at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
> excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
> volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor
at
> 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.

Good luck. The craftsman motor won't fit in the Unisaw (that's Unisaw,
BTW - not "Unit saw".

> The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and the
> smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.

So you're going to put a Sears motor in a Unisaw, thinking you'll get more
power? Why don't you just buy one of Sears shop vacs that has 6.5 hp and
use that motor? See what I'm getting at? Sears has somewhat of a problem
with horsepower ratings, and that motor is probably somewhere around 3/4
horse.

Save yourself a LOT of time and hassle, buy the Unisaw, have an electrician
install a 220 volt outlet in your shop (it's really easy to do), and dump
the Craftsman saw as-is.

Jon E
- whose wimpy 3-hp "Unit saw" will rip through 3" thick green oak without a
stutter.

RQ

"RE Quick Transit"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 12:59 AM


"George Berlinger" <[email protected]>
> Cheaper for you to run some wire for a new 220 line
> Motors probably won,t fit right anyway.......
>

I thought abou tis George, but it is tough getting the big wire out to the
garage. I have a simple solution though.

I took some extra lunch time at work and got the saw home. It took four of
us to lift it into the backof the SUV. I feel kind of silly, it is a
UniSaw, not a unit saw. I got both motors out already. That was easy
enough, but you are right, they are not fully compatible. So, I'm going to
do a little modification. Seems the Delta has a three belt drive system but
the Craftsman has direct drive.

Since the direct drive is more efficient than the friction loss of the belt
system, I'm converting it to the direct drive. Should have less vibration
too. I only have to drill four holes in the table top to mount it and I'll
use countersunk screws.

Note to Fred M.
If you are still interested in the Craftsman saw, I'll sell it to you cheap,
but the adjusting system for the blade is going into the new saw. Let me
know.

Ralph Engerman
R E Quick Transit

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "RE Quick Transit" on 28/02/2004 12:59 AM

28/02/2004 2:19 AM

Sockman casts again with:

>> Cheaper for you to run some wire for a new 220 line
>> Motors probably won,t fit right anyway.......
>>
>
>I thought abou tis George, but it is tough getting the big wire out to the
>garage. I have a simple solution though.
>
>I took some extra lunch time at work and got the saw home. It took four of
>us to lift it into the backof the SUV. I feel kind of silly, it is a
>UniSaw, not a unit saw. I got both motors out already. That was easy
>enough, but you are right, they are not fully compatible. So, I'm going to
>do a little modification. Seems the Delta has a three belt drive system but
>the Craftsman has direct drive.
>
>Since the direct drive is more efficient than the friction loss of the belt
>system, I'm converting it to the direct drive. Should have less vibration
>too. I only have to drill four holes in the table top to mount it and I'll
>use countersunk screws.

Great cast. Are your real initials David Eisan?

Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

JM

"Jim Martin"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

26/02/2004 9:20 PM


"Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0ty%[email protected]...
> Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor at
> 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.

Be careful there. The unisaw motor is unique to that saw and I sort of doubt
(could be wrong here) that your other motor will fit. Why don't you go check
things out on www.owwm.com.

Good luck,

Jim

wW

[email protected] (WebsterSteve)

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 1:28 PM

"Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<0ty%[email protected]>...
> I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
> 220 volt.


Did you ever find that primer for your cherry table from a few years ago?

MR

Mark

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 4:59 AM



RE Quick Transit wrote:

> "G..... Seems the Delta has a three belt drive system but
> the Craftsman has direct drive.
>
> Since the direct drive is more efficient than the friction loss of the belt
> system, I'm converting it to the direct drive. Should have less vibration
> too. I only have to drill four holes in the table top to mount it and I'll
> use countersunk screws.




This thread is nothing without pictures.

We need graphics.


--

Mark

N.E. Ohio


Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens, A.K.A.
Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the suspense.
(Gaz, r.moto)

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

29/02/2004 2:03 AM

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:57:48 -0600, Unisaw A100 wrote:

> Phisherman wrote:
>>Better to install a couple 220v outlets in your shop.
>>You'll have a smoother running and start, and use less energy with the
>>220v.
>
>
>
> So 220 runs smoother than 110? How come.
>
> UA100, Myth Buster In Training...

...and how much less energy?

--
-Doug

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 6:13 PM

Yea, it was a good effort. I caught on when he said his old Craftsman was a
"damn good saw".

--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com


"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:CoF%[email protected]...
> hehe, exactly what I was thinking right off the bat. Looks like Ralph
> caught himself some of the wreck's big fish today hehe.
>
>
> "Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Nice cast.
> >
> > --
> > Bill Pounds
> > http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop
> >
> >
> > "Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:0ty%[email protected]...
> > > I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will
> be
> > > 220 volt.
> > >
> > > My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A
> guy
> > > at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good
> deal,
> > > excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to
> 120
> > > volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse
> motor
> > at
> > > 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
> > >
> > > The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and
the
> > > smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.
> > >
> > > I paid $199 for the Craftsman saw about four years ago. I'm hoping to
> get
> > > maybe $150 out of it, but I'd drop a few bucks if you want to put the
> > motor
> > > on yourself. It is a damned good saw and the only reason I'm selling
it
> > is
> > > to get the Delta Unit saw to make cabinets. It has a bigger fence so
I
> > can
> > > cut plywood easier.
> > >
> > > I'm located in western Mass and own a small delivery service. I cover
> all
> > > of New England and New York so I can arrange delivery of the saw in
that
> > > area. .
> > >
> > > Ralph Engerman
> > > RE Quick Transit
> > >
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Phisherman

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 8:37 PM

Bad idea. Better to install a couple 220v outlets in your shop.
You'll have a smoother running and start, and use less energy with the
220v. Think about a 220v DC too. The 220v circuit should be easy to
install with all the materials available at your local HD, Lowes or
hardware store.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 03:04:28 GMT, "Sockman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
>220 volt.
>
>My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
>at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
>excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
>volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor at
>120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
>
>The Delta Unit saw will be better with the slightly larger motor and the
>smaller Craftsman will still be OK with the 3 horse motor.
>
>I paid $199 for the Craftsman saw about four years ago. I'm hoping to get
>maybe $150 out of it, but I'd drop a few bucks if you want to put the motor
>on yourself. It is a damned good saw and the only reason I'm selling it is
>to get the Delta Unit saw to make cabinets. It has a bigger fence so I can
>cut plywood easier.
>
>I'm located in western Mass and own a small delivery service. I cover all
>of New England and New York so I can arrange delivery of the saw in that
>area. .
>
>Ralph Engerman
>RE Quick Transit
>

RQ

"RE Quick Transit"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 8:23 PM


"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> This thread is nothing without pictures.
>
> We need graphics.
>
>
> --
>
> Mark

You got'em. I posted a picture on the binaries woodworking group.

Ralph Engerman
R E Quick Transit

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 6:57 PM

Phisherman wrote:
>Better to install a couple 220v outlets in your shop.
>You'll have a smoother running and start, and use less energy with the
>220v.



So 220 runs smoother than 110? How come.

UA100, Myth Buster In Training...

PK

Paul Kierstead

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 7:42 AM

In article <bKR%[email protected]>,
"RE Quick Transit" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I took some extra lunch time at work and got the saw home. It took four of
> us to lift it into the backof the SUV. I feel kind of silly, it is a
> UniSaw, not a unit saw. I got both motors out already. That was easy
> enough, but you are right, they are not fully compatible. So, I'm going to
> do a little modification. Seems the Delta has a three belt drive system but
> the Craftsman has direct drive.
>
> Since the direct drive is more efficient than the friction loss of the belt
> system, I'm converting it to the direct drive. Should have less vibration
> too. I only have to drill four holes in the table top to mount it and I'll
> use countersunk screws.

Y'know, I must be gullible. I didn't think so, but I read this twice
before I figured out that you weren't serious.

I hope.

:)

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

27/02/2004 10:22 AM

Luigi Zanasi wrote:
>Don't do it, i.e. switch the motors, even in the unlikely event the
>motors fit when you switch them around. Sears lies about its
>horsepower. Simple math, which you can check out for yourself in any
>good reference:


What is rather interesting is, Delta was playing the numbers
game on motor horsepower (horsepowere Luigi) long before
Sears ever did. If memory serve me it appears in the
ancient Delta text (dirty paper) as far back as the late
30's/early 40's in their comparison of repulsion/induction
motors.

UA100

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

26/02/2004 10:56 PM

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 03:04:28 GMT, "Sockman" <[email protected]>
scribbled:

>I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
>220 volt.
>
>My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
>at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
>excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
>volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor at
>120 volt so I'm going to swap them.

At 100% efficiency, 3.5HP would draw 21.75 amps. You must have a
pretty big breaker to run that saw, and I hope your circuit uses at
least 10 gauge wire.

Oh!, I forgot. That's Sears horsepower. Who else but Sears can defy
the laws of physics and make a 3.5 horsepower motor that works on a 15
Amp circuit at 120 Volts?

Don't do it, i.e. switch the motors, even in the unlikely event the
motors fit when you switch them around. Sears lies about its
horsepower. Simple math, which you can check out for yourself in any
good reference:

1HP=746Watts

Volts X Amps = Watts (for 120/240 volts)

So 3.5 HP = 2,611 Watts

2,611 Watts / 120 Volts = 21.75 amps.

So, you're going to have a much less powerful motor.

Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Luigi Zanasi on 26/02/2004 10:56 PM

27/02/2004 9:02 AM

Luigi Zanasi writes:

>>I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
>>220 volt.
>>
>>My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
>>at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
>>excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
>>volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor at
>>120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
>
>At 100% efficiency, 3.5HP would draw 21.75 amps. You must have a
>pretty big breaker to run that saw, and I hope your circuit uses at
>least 10 gauge wire.

What a bite!

>Oh!, I forgot. That's Sears horsepower. Who else but Sears can defy
>the laws of physics and make a 3.5 horsepower motor that works on a 15
>Amp circuit at 120 Volts?

Pret' near every tool manufacturer who makes benchtop saws or routers and sells
them in the U.S. and Canada.

Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to Luigi Zanasi on 26/02/2004 10:56 PM

28/02/2004 9:25 AM

On 27 Feb 2004 09:02:10 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
scribbled:

>Luigi Zanasi writes:
>
>>>I'm selling my Craftsman table saw. There is one catch though, it will be
>>>220 volt.
>>>
>>>My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A guy
>>>at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good deal,
>>>excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to 120
>>>volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse motor at
>>>120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
>>
>>At 100% efficiency, 3.5HP would draw 21.75 amps. You must have a
>>pretty big breaker to run that saw, and I hope your circuit uses at
>>least 10 gauge wire.
>
>What a bite!

Yup. He/she/it got me good. :-)

I e-mailed the author to congratulate & gave an invitation to come
fishing with me for some monster lake trout as he/she/it is really
good at trolling Yukon fish.

But I ain't outing him/her/it.

Luigi
Who has removed the hook but is still trying to spew out the sinker.
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Luigi Zanasi on 26/02/2004 10:56 PM

28/02/2004 12:57 AM

Charlie Self wrote:

>>the laws of physics and make a 3.5 horsepower motor that works on a 15
>>Amp circuit at 120 Volts?
>
> Pret' near every tool manufacturer who makes benchtop saws or routers and
> sells them in the U.S. and Canada.

You trying to tell me my Shop Vac doesn't really deliver 6.8 HP?

Do you really think 150,000,000 cardboard boxes could be wrong?

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Silvan on 28/02/2004 12:57 AM

28/02/2004 9:45 AM

Silvan writes:

>> Pret' near every tool manufacturer who makes benchtop saws or routers and
>> sells them in the U.S. and Canada.
>
>You trying to tell me my Shop Vac doesn't really deliver 6.8 HP?
>
>Do you really think 150,000,000 cardboard boxes could be wrong?

At least as wrong as 50 million Frenchmen. Or are you old enough to recall that
little line?

Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

bB

in reply to Silvan on 28/02/2004 12:57 AM

28/02/2004 4:15 PM

In rec.woodworking
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:

>Charlie Self wrote:
>
>>>Do you really think 150,000,000 cardboard boxes could be wrong?
>>
>> At least as wrong as 50 million Frenchmen. Or are you old enough to recall
>> that little line?
>
>Probably not.

Why are the streets of Paris lined with trees?

So the Germans could march in the shade. :)

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 28/02/2004 12:57 AM

28/02/2004 10:46 AM

Charlie Self wrote:

>>Do you really think 150,000,000 cardboard boxes could be wrong?
>
> At least as wrong as 50 million Frenchmen. Or are you old enough to recall
> that little line?

Probably not.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

CC

Cape Cod Bob

in reply to Silvan on 28/02/2004 12:57 AM

28/02/2004 8:30 AM

On 28 Feb 2004 09:45:10 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Silvan writes:
>
>>> Pret' near every tool manufacturer who makes benchtop saws or routers and
>>> sells them in the U.S. and Canada.
>>
>>You trying to tell me my Shop Vac doesn't really deliver 6.8 HP?
>>
>>Do you really think 150,000,000 cardboard boxes could be wrong?
>
>At least as wrong as 50 million Frenchmen. Or are you old enough to recall that
>little line?

I think the French line first started as the Luftwaffe airplanes waved
down to the French all cozy in their Maginot Line.

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to "Sockman" on 27/02/2004 3:04 AM

28/02/2004 12:20 AM

You're kidding right?

"mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > My wife wants new kitchen cabinets and I plan to build them myself. A
guy
> > at work is selling a Delta Unit saw, the cabinet model. It is a good
deal,
> > excpet the 3 horse motor is 220 volt and he says I can't change it to
120
> > volts. Than't not a problem though. My Craftsman has a 3 1/2 horse
motor
> at
> > 120 volt so I'm going to swap them.
>
> Naw, the Sears rating is overly optimistic. What you're suggesting is
> equivalent to putting a Yugo engine in a Vette.
>
> What you need to do is get another 220v motor and run the two in series.
> This will halve your voltage requirement per motor and allow you pull a
> total of 6hp off of your 120v lines.
>
>


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