Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so" response.
I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called the
800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
purchase.
Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed qualify?
Paul
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:42 -0500, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed qualify?
My local store manager told me they did, and wrote such on his
business card.
We'll see when the card arrives.
Barry
I was told the Bessey's were considered "speciality tools" as listed on
the display board and qualified. They were not listed in the specific
exclusions.
B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:42 -0500, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed qualify?
>
>
>
> My local store manager told me they did, and wrote such on his
> business card.
>
> We'll see when the card arrives.
>
> Barry
Throw mud on your placas de registro. Tell your 'mano to drive around the
lot real slow like, and when he sees you, pick you up mucho rapido, in front
of the doors. You boost the clamps vato, then run for the door, and jump in
your ride. Make for the 'hood. It helps if you have room in your garage for
the car for a few days.Maybe put the Radial arm and lathe on the porch, you
know?
"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I know you're just being considerate to the HD guys, but why do you ask
> these questions? I find that 99% of the time if you just go to the
checkout
> and act confident that the things are included in these promotions that
they
> don't question you and go ahead and give you the discount. When you ask
the
> questions, you're just about demanding to be told "sorry".
>
> Mike
>
> "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to
make
> > sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
> response.
> > I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called
> the
> > 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps
and
> > was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> > purchase.
> >
> > Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
> qualify?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I know you're just being considerate to the HD guys, but why do you ask
> these questions? I find that 99% of the time if you just go to the checkout
> and act confident that the things are included in these promotions that they
> don't question you and go ahead and give you the discount. When you ask the
> questions, you're just about demanding to be told "sorry".
>
> Mike
Thought this was a mail-in rebate promotion. If so, you can be
assured that the "fulfillment house" knows all of the rules and if you
send in-eligible tags, you are out of luck. In many cases, if you have
not performed the right incantations, drawn the correct glyphs on the
envelope seal, or even smudged one of the required items, you have a
good chance of having your request rejected by these "fulfillment
houses". The OP was wise in asking before being disappointed by a
highly personal form letter or even worse by absolutely no answer ever.
>
> "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
> > sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
> response.
> > I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called
> the
> > 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
> > was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> > purchase.
> >
> > Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
> qualify?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I also hit the HD today and spent $400.00 for K-Body clamps. Also
> opened up a credit card account for 10% off on first card purchase.
> Sooooooo it should have cost $200.00 with 10% off and $160.00
> in gift cards. When I got home, I called the toll free no. on the form
> and was told that I need two reciepts. So back tomorrow for a return
> and repurchase. Hope this works.
... and the incantation begins... :-)
>
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:42 -0500, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
> >sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so" response.
> >I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called the
> >800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
> >was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> >purchase.
> >
> >Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed qualify?
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >
>
>
B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
>> Mail in rebates are scams, which really should be outlawed.
>
> Why? <G>
>
> I've always been happy with mail-in rebates. I don't buy things
> simply because of sales or rebates, but I'll take a rebate any day
> over full price.
>
> Not to mention the mail-in rebate, as well as the purchase itself, is
> quite voluntary. Vote with your wallet.
What bothers me is the unfairness, the "two-faced" attitude towards the
money. They can *charge* my account in picoseconds, but to *return* my
money involves a lengthy and useless process -- no additional data is
collected beyond what could be known at point of sale. Typically the
fulfillment house is located in Lake Woebegon, Minnesota, and is apparently
accessable only via arthritic USPS burros. And Ole and Lena only work there
a couple days a week.
The rebate process is NOT about saving me money, it's a process *calculated*
to let the company keep my money. I've been burned on rebates several
times. In fact there's a piece of computer kit here by my feet where the
company managed to keep my rebate. It was only when I got to the cash
register I found out the "Sale Price" wasn't *really* the sale price. It
*should* have been labeled, "Sale Price After Rebate." I wish I'd followed
my instincts and left it there at the register. In all probability it is
the last item from that manufacturer I'll ever buy. Their sales & marketing
guys were happy because I showed up in the "Successfully Avoided Paying
Rebate" column, but that's very short-term thinking for them. They're
unlikely to ever see anything from me in the sales column ever again.
Besides, there's the word of mouth that gets around, like this:
"I own uninterruptable power supplies (UPS) from both APC and Belkin. In
the future, if the choice is between APC and Belkin, I'll buy Belkin every
time. Belkin works better for me."
:-)
-- Mark
In article <[email protected]>,
Greg O <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
>> sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
>response.
>> I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called
>the
>> 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
>> was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
>> purchase.
>>
>> Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
>qualify?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>
>Funny, when I called the HD 800 number I was told the opposite! Any hand
>tool in the tool corral was ok! The only exclusions were listed on the
>rebate form.
>If they exclude them, they are getting them back!
>Greg
>
>
Per what was _published_ in the fine-print in the HD newspaper ad in Chicago
".... Offer includes all hardware department and electrical department
hand tools. Offer does not include power tools. Offer does not include
hand tools from lawn & garden, drywall, plumbing, and flooring
departments. Offer good from now through October 29, 2003. See store
for full details."
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
...
> My favorite "scam" is this one:
>
> Every year I buy Turbo Tax to do my income taxes. Every year for the
> last 5, Intuit has offered a mail in rebate on Quicken, when purchased
> with Turbo Tax. I wait for Staples, Comp USA, etc... to put Turbo Tax
> on sale in January, which _always_ happens. When it does, I get the
> latest version of Quicken *free* each year, and never spend more than
> about $20 for Turbo Tax.
>
> Why does Intuit do this? For my name and address, of course! <G>
>
> Each November and December, I get direct offers from Intuit to
> purchase both apps for $40-50. I'm sure some folks take advantage of
> the convenient offer, but I simply wait for this year's sale.
>
> I have to wait for the $20 or $30 rebate check, but that's not a big
> deal in my book.
No, and it's smart, too. These sorts of offers seem very commonly
available for software. I always keep antennae up for them.
Abe
--
A numeral would be more efficient than spelling out "ONE" in an email
addy, don't you think?
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
...
> ... after Intuit's "product activation" fiasco, my business is going
> to TaxCut.
Mine already did. TaxCut isn't quite as good as TurboTax, but at least
you're not *paying* to have spyware surreptitiously installed on your
computer. I suspect with the added business TaxCut is now getting, the
quality gap will close pretty quickly, and I'm happy to support that
convergence. Glad to hear you are too.
Abe
--
A numeral would be more efficient than spelling out "ONE" in an email
addy, don't you think?
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> I was told the Bessey's were considered "speciality tools" as listed on
> the display board and qualified. They were not listed in the specific
> exclusions.
That's what they told me also. Of course now that I've read the fine
print I may have to return a couple of the clamps I purchased and trade
them for ones that still have UPC codes on them. Grrr...
Abe
--
A numeral would be more efficient than spelling out "ONE" in an email
addy, don't you think?
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:38:18 GMT, Abe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> >> I was told the Bessey's were considered "speciality tools" as listed on
> >> the display board and qualified. They were not listed in the specific
> >> exclusions.
> >
> >That's what they told me also. Of course now that I've read the fine
> >print I may have to return a couple of the clamps I purchased and trade
> >them for ones that still have UPC codes on them. Grrr...
> >
> >Abe
> I beat ya! No more UPC's left.
Curses! Foiled again! Actually, I checked earlier and only need one
replacement UPC. Might pick up a few more clamps, though, now that I
know you can submit more than one of these coupons.
Abe
This past Sunday, HD in NE Mesa, AZ had a display board just inside the
entrance with 10-15 sample items wired to it, promoting the handtool
sale/gift card rebate deal. One of these items is a $37.95 BESSEY clamp.
Not needing a Bessey clamp...(what am I saying, I can always use another
clamp)...not currently in the market for a Bessey clamp (per SWMBO), I
passed by without paying much attention. I am pretty sure that is was a
K-body model. I'll be over that way tomorrow as it is next to a "Michael's"
craft store and I am informed we ARE in the market for something they stock
there. I'll kill some time at HD and check if that was a K-body.
Is it possible the HD has some items "authorized" for this promotion in some
areas/zones/regions but not in other ones?
DexAZ
"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
> sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
response.
> I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called
the
> 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
> was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> purchase.
>
> Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
qualify?
>
> Paul
>
>
>
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Thought this was a mail-in rebate promotion.
Mail in rebates are scams, which really should be outlawed.
> If so, you can be
> assured that the "fulfillment house" knows all of the rules and if you
> send in-eligible tags, you are out of luck. In many cases, if you
> have not performed the right incantations, drawn the correct glyphs on
> the envelope seal, or even smudged one of the required items, you have
> a good chance of having your request rejected by these "fulfillment
> houses".
The "fulfillment houses" compete for business on the basis of how
small a percentage of rebate submittals are paid. As I understand
it, to be competitive in that field right now you have to be
promising a number in the 10% range.
Don't ever decide to buy something based on the after-rebate
price, unless it's an immediate "in store" rebate.
John
B a r r y B u r k e J r . <[email protected]> wrote
in news:[email protected]:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:20:41 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Thought this was a mail-in rebate promotion.
>>
>>Mail in rebates are scams, which really should be outlawed.
>
> Why? <G>
Well, Mark hit on one aspect, the false advertising (where it's not
disclosed the advertised price includes the rebate until you reach
the register - CompUSA in particular is egregiously guilty of this
one). But to me the damning part is the fact that the fullfillment
houses intentionally set things up to avoid paying rebates. In my
mind the rebate is a form of contract, in which the fullfillment
houses are attempting to conciously avoid meeting their obligation.
In essence, that's fraud.
> I've always been happy with mail-in rebates. I don't buy things
> simply because of sales or rebates, but I'll take a rebate any day
> over full price.
Well, I'm the same way. I send them in if it's more than a couple
of bucks, and treat it as a pleasant surprise if something comes
back. But when I'm deciding what product to buy, I base it on
the register price, not the rebated price.
John
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:36:38 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>> I also hit the HD today and spent $400.00 for K-Body clamps. Also
>> opened up a credit card account for 10% off on first card purchase.
>> Sooooooo it should have cost $200.00 with 10% off and $160.00
>> in gift cards. When I got home, I called the toll free no. on the form
>> and was told that I need two reciepts. So back tomorrow for a return
>> and repurchase. Hope this works.
>
>... and the incantation begins... :-)
I brought my receipt back to HD today and they gave me two receipts
for $200.00 each for the one at $400.00. (numbers are rounded for
clarity) Not any problems at all. BTW, the gift card order form must
be received by 11/15/03 . They added 10 days to the date on the form.
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:42 -0500, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
>> >sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so" response.
>> >I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called the
>> >800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
>> >was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
>> >purchase.
>> >
>> >Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed qualify?
>> >
>> >Paul
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:01:01 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>... after Intuit's "product activation" fiasco, my business is going
>to TaxCut.
My business went to them last year and it isn't going back. Tax Cut's
user interface isn't quite as slick as TurboTax, but it does the job,
costs less and doesn't install a bunch of unwanted junk all over my
system. I was a TurboTax user for many years until last year, but no
more.
-- jc
Published e-mail address is strictly for spam collection.
If e-mailing me, please use jc631 at optonline dot net
Understood - but in this case it's not a "sale" at the checkout, just a
rebate form you fill in and wait a month or two for the credit check. If
the SKU's don't qualify, no money comes back!
Paul
"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I know you're just being considerate to the HD guys, but why do you ask
> these questions? I find that 99% of the time if you just go to the
checkout
> and act confident that the things are included in these promotions that
they
> don't question you and go ahead and give you the discount. When you ask
the
> questions, you're just about demanding to be told "sorry".
>
> Mike
>
> "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to
make
> > sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
> response.
> > I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called
> the
> > 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps
and
> > was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> > purchase.
> >
> > Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
> qualify?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
>
>
<Sigh> With all the ways people can miscommunicate I don't understand why
they have to hand out paper forms and force the customer to guess. I'm sure
their point-of-sale system could easily identify a qualifying product and
then spit out a rebate form for submittal. Just seems a lot more efficient.
Paul
"DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This past Sunday, HD in NE Mesa, AZ had a display board just inside the
> entrance with 10-15 sample items wired to it, promoting the handtool
> sale/gift card rebate deal. One of these items is a $37.95 BESSEY clamp.
> Not needing a Bessey clamp...(what am I saying, I can always use another
> clamp)...not currently in the market for a Bessey clamp (per SWMBO), I
> passed by without paying much attention. I am pretty sure that is was a
> K-body model. I'll be over that way tomorrow as it is next to a
"Michael's"
> craft store and I am informed we ARE in the market for something they
stock
> there. I'll kill some time at HD and check if that was a K-body.
>
> Is it possible the HD has some items "authorized" for this promotion in
some
> areas/zones/regions but not in other ones?
>
> DexAZ
>
>
> "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to
make
> > sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
> response.
> > I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called
> the
> > 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps
and
> > was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> > purchase.
> >
> > Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
> qualify?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>... But to me the damning part is the fact that the fullfillment
>houses intentionally set things up to avoid paying rebates. In my
>mind the rebate is a form of contract, in which the fullfillment
>houses are attempting to conciously avoid meeting their obligation.
>In essence, that's fraud.
A couple of months ago I sent in for a rebate - coupon, UPC and cash
register receipt - all stapled together.
A month after I did that - I got a "Rejected" card in the mail. So I
called the number - they said they rejected my request because of a
missing cash register receipt!
I told them it was stapled to the coupon - "Please call back next week
so that we can pull your file and check up."
When I called back, "Oh yes, everything was there, we're processing
the rebate."
I guess that the bottom line is, "Persistence pays."
--
--henry schaffer
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> <Sigh> With all the ways people can miscommunicate I don't understand why
> they have to hand out paper forms and force the customer to guess. I'm sure
> their point-of-sale system could easily identify a qualifying product and
> then spit out a rebate form for submittal. Just seems a lot more efficient.
>
> Paul
But that's part of it. By making it inconvenient, there is a certain
percentage of people who will not bother to mail in for the rebate,
another percentage who will forget until it is too late, yet another
fraction who will send in something incorrectly, and some who will send
in for the wrong things. This seems to be taken into account and used
to offset some amount of the sale price (IT vendors are notorious for
obscure terms and conditions and slow response times in returning
rebates).
>
>
> "DexAZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > This past Sunday, HD in NE Mesa, AZ had a display board just inside the
> > entrance with 10-15 sample items wired to it, promoting the handtool
> > sale/gift card rebate deal. One of these items is a $37.95 BESSEY clamp.
> > Not needing a Bessey clamp...(what am I saying, I can always use another
> > clamp)...not currently in the market for a Bessey clamp (per SWMBO), I
> > passed by without paying much attention. I am pretty sure that is was a
> > K-body model. I'll be over that way tomorrow as it is next to a
> "Michael's"
> > craft store and I am informed we ARE in the market for something they
> stock
> > there. I'll kill some time at HD and check if that was a K-body.
> >
> > Is it possible the HD has some items "authorized" for this promotion in
> some
> > areas/zones/regions but not in other ones?
> >
> > DexAZ
> >
> >
> > "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to
> make
> > > sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
> > response.
> > > I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called
> > the
> > > 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps
> and
> > > was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> > > purchase.
> > >
> > > Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
> > qualify?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:36:38 GMT, Mark & Juanita
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >> I also hit the HD today and spent $400.00 for K-Body clamps. Also
> >> opened up a credit card account for 10% off on first card purchase.
> >> Sooooooo it should have cost $200.00 with 10% off and $160.00
> >> in gift cards. When I got home, I called the toll free no. on the form
> >> and was told that I need two reciepts. So back tomorrow for a return
> >> and repurchase. Hope this works.
> >
> >... and the incantation begins... :-)
> I brought my receipt back to HD today and they gave me two receipts
> for $200.00 each for the one at $400.00. (numbers are rounded for
> clarity) Not any problems at all. BTW, the gift card order form must
> be received by 11/15/03 . They added 10 days to the date on the form.
>
Good deal. This is probably a lot more like Zelazny's "Amber Series",
you just passed the first curve in the Pattern.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:42 -0500, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
> >> >sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so" response.
> >> >I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called the
> >> >800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
> >> >was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> >> >purchase.
> >> >
> >> >Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed qualify?
> >> >
> >> >Paul
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>
ah, I see, that makes more sense.
It's interesting as you say, then, because several others as I'm sure you've
seen have been buying k-bodies with the intent of rebating the purchases.
Maybe HD is going to end up with as many ppl pissed at them as Woodcraft
hehe.
(by the way, I got my 2nd set of 12 cabinet masters today at the discounted
prices. clamps are good things)
"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Understood - but in this case it's not a "sale" at the checkout, just a
> rebate form you fill in and wait a month or two for the credit check. If
> the SKU's don't qualify, no money comes back!
>
> Paul
>
> "Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I know you're just being considerate to the HD guys, but why do you ask
> > these questions? I find that 99% of the time if you just go to the
> checkout
> > and act confident that the things are included in these promotions that
> they
> > don't question you and go ahead and give you the discount. When you ask
> the
> > questions, you're just about demanding to be told "sorry".
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to
> make
> > > sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
> > response.
> > > I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier
called
> > the
> > > 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps
> and
> > > was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> > > purchase.
> > >
> > > Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
> > qualify?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
The clamps were not excluded on the form, the manager and a clerk informed
me that they were indeed included, I see both of these individuals every
time I go in, I put the clamps on a credit card, AND I have a secret weapon
who has set world records for returning items and getting full refunds
months, sometimes years, later (SWMBO).
In short, I've won bigger wars than this one with less ammo ... I am not
worried.
BTW, which TROLL started this one?
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"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." wrote in message
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:55:13 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r .
> A clamp is a hardware dept. hand tool according to the manager.
>
> I kept copies of everything and an extra rebate form. If necessary,
> the manager's card will be used as ammo to return the K's if the
> fulfillment center does not honor my rebate. <G>
>
> Barry
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:20:41 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in
> >news:[email protected]:
> >
> >> Thought this was a mail-in rebate promotion.
> >
> >Mail in rebates are scams, which really should be outlawed.
> >
>
> My favorite "scam" is this one:
>
> Every year I buy Turbo Tax to do my income taxes. Every year for the
> last 5, Intuit has offered a mail in rebate on Quicken, when purchased
> with Turbo Tax. I wait for Staples, Comp USA, etc... to put Turbo Tax
> on sale in January, which _always_ happens. When it does, I get the
> latest version of Quicken *free* each year, and never spend more than
> about $20 for Turbo Tax.
>
... after Intuit's "product activation" fiasco, my business is going
to TaxCut.
Mark Jerde wrote:
> "I own uninterruptable power supplies (UPS) from both APC and Belkin.
> In the future, if the choice is between APC and Belkin, I'll buy
> Belkin every time. Belkin works better for me."
P.S. This is 100% true. IMO Belkin is a better product. Besides that, the
"Sale Price" was the "Sale Price."
John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Thought this was a mail-in rebate promotion.
>
>Mail in rebates are scams, which really should be outlawed.
>
>> If so, you can be
>> assured that the "fulfillment house" knows all of the rules and if you
>> send in-eligible tags, you are out of luck. In many cases, if you
>> have not performed the right incantations, drawn the correct glyphs on
>> the envelope seal, or even smudged one of the required items, you have
>> a good chance of having your request rejected by these "fulfillment
>> houses".
>
>The "fulfillment houses" compete for business on the basis of how
>small a percentage of rebate submittals are paid. As I understand
>it, to be competitive in that field right now you have to be
>promising a number in the 10% range.
>
>Don't ever decide to buy something based on the after-rebate
>price, unless it's an immediate "in store" rebate.
>
>John
I like your attitude, but am somewhat masochistic. So would you mind
sending your receipts and UPC codes to me so that I can be further
victimized by this scam? That should be a win-win, protecting you from
the scam, while letting me enjoy the pain.
Thanks.
--
Alex
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:20:41 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Thought this was a mail-in rebate promotion.
>
>Mail in rebates are scams, which really should be outlawed.
Why? <G>
I've always been happy with mail-in rebates. I don't buy things
simply because of sales or rebates, but I'll take a rebate any day
over full price.
Not to mention the mail-in rebate, as well as the purchase itself, is
quite voluntary. Vote with your wallet.
Barry
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:55:13 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r .
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:42 -0500, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed qualify?
>
>
>My local store manager told me they did, and wrote such on his
>business card.
>
>We'll see when the card arrives.
>
>Barry
I'd also like to point out that the rebate form states "Offer includes
all hardware dept. hand tools and electrical dept. Klein and Greenlee
tools."
A clamp is a hardware dept. hand tool according to the manager.
I kept copies of everything and an extra rebate form. If necessary,
the manager's card will be used as ammo to return the K's if the
fulfillment center does not honor my rebate. <G>
Barry
I know you're just being considerate to the HD guys, but why do you ask
these questions? I find that 99% of the time if you just go to the checkout
and act confident that the things are included in these promotions that they
don't question you and go ahead and give you the discount. When you ask the
questions, you're just about demanding to be told "sorry".
Mike
"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
> sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
response.
> I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called
the
> 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
> was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> purchase.
>
> Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
qualify?
>
> Paul
>
>
>
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 04:37:02 GMT, Mapdude <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I was told the Bessey's were considered "speciality tools" as listed on
>the display board and qualified. They were not listed in the specific
>exclusions.
>
I already own a few Bessey's and a boatload of pipe clamps but I did
want some more of those Irwin Quick-Grip clamps so I picked up a
couple of every size. I find myself reaching for these clamps first
more and more. For holding something together before screwing it these
work great, also for testing/aligning big glue ups before throwing on
the stronger clamps for final glue up. Just like bar and pipe clamps,
ya can't have too many, and I'm thinking of getting some more before
this sale ends.
I have no doubts that these clamps are considered hand tools and will
qualify. Anytime you can get 40% off clamps, it's a good thing.
Jeff
____________________________________________
You won't notice the splinters in the ladder of success,
unless you are sliding down.
I also hit the HD today and spent $400.00 for K-Body clamps. Also
opened up a credit card account for 10% off on first card purchase.
Sooooooo it should have cost $200.00 with 10% off and $160.00
in gift cards. When I got home, I called the toll free no. on the form
and was told that I need two reciepts. So back tomorrow for a return
and repurchase. Hope this works.
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:48:42 -0500, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
>sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so" response.
>I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called the
>800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
>was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
>purchase.
>
>Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed qualify?
>
>Paul
>
>
"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <Sigh> With all the ways people can miscommunicate I don't understand why
> they have to hand out paper forms and force the customer to guess. I'm
sure
> their point-of-sale system could easily identify a qualifying product and
> then spit out a rebate form for submittal. Just seems a lot more
efficient.
Probably way too efficient. Lowes does this.. But, the more trouble the
more likely that "some" customers will forget about the rebate and the store
comes out ahead.
"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ah, I see, that makes more sense.
>
> It's interesting as you say, then, because several others as I'm sure
you've
> seen have been buying k-bodies with the intent of rebating the purchases.
> Maybe HD is going to end up with as many ppl pissed at them as Woodcraft
> hehe.
There may be a BUNCH of returns to HD if those rebates are not honored..
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:20:41 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Thought this was a mail-in rebate promotion.
>
>Mail in rebates are scams, which really should be outlawed.
>
My favorite "scam" is this one:
Every year I buy Turbo Tax to do my income taxes. Every year for the
last 5, Intuit has offered a mail in rebate on Quicken, when purchased
with Turbo Tax. I wait for Staples, Comp USA, etc... to put Turbo Tax
on sale in January, which _always_ happens. When it does, I get the
latest version of Quicken *free* each year, and never spend more than
about $20 for Turbo Tax.
Why does Intuit do this? For my name and address, of course! <G>
Each November and December, I get direct offers from Intuit to
purchase both apps for $40-50. I'm sure some folks take advantage of
the convenient offer, but I simply wait for this year's sale.
I have to wait for the $20 or $30 rebate check, but that's not a big
deal in my book.
Barry
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:38:18 GMT, Abe <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>> I was told the Bessey's were considered "speciality tools" as listed on
>> the display board and qualified. They were not listed in the specific
>> exclusions.
>
>That's what they told me also. Of course now that I've read the fine
>print I may have to return a couple of the clamps I purchased and trade
>them for ones that still have UPC codes on them. Grrr...
>
>Abe
I beat ya! No more UPC's left.
"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Visited my HD tonight to round out my K-Body collection. I asked to make
> sure these would qualify for the sale, and got a "don't think so"
response.
> I was pretty sure this was just local ignorance, but the cashier called
the
> 800 number on the sales form, read off the SKU numbers from the clamps and
> was told that these were NOT on the authorized list. I passed on the
> purchase.
>
> Anyone have written assurance or other insight that these do indeed
qualify?
>
> Paul
>
>
>
Funny, when I called the HD 800 number I was told the opposite! Any hand
tool in the tool corral was ok! The only exclusions were listed on the
rebate form.
If they exclude them, they are getting them back!
Greg
"John McCoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> The "fulfillment houses" compete for business on the basis of how
> small a percentage of rebate submittals are paid. As I understand
> it, to be competitive in that field right now you have to be
> promising a number in the 10% range.
>
> Don't ever decide to buy something based on the after-rebate
> price, unless it's an immediate "in store" rebate.
>
> John
My wife is a rebate freak! She has rebates sent in all the time. Rarely is
there a time when she does not have at least one rebate on the waiting list!
She collects 100% too. Make sure you cross you "T"'s, dot your "I"'s and all
will be ok.
Office Max refused a rebate once, and out of principle she hounded them
'till they paid up! The store assured us the rebate had been extended, the
date on the form was passed. The store manager knows her on a first name
basis!
A got a lovely lady for a wife, just don't piss her off!
Greg
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> writes:
> In many cases, if you have not performed the right incantations,
In some cases, even if you have. DAMHIKT.