Hi Guys
I'm using a gel stain("golden oak" is the color) on red oak veneer
plywood. It works fine, except where I use wood putty to cover up
some nail holes. I have no problem with the actual putty in the hole,
but where I wiped the wood putty on around the hole, the wood doesn't
take as heavy a stain..it's noticably lighter. Its like the the putty
blocks the stain from penetrating as deeply.
Is there a fix for this? I don't want to sand thru the veneer.
Al
In my experience that is typical with most stains.
Probably too late this time but in the future, put masking tape over the
spot that you intend to put a nail. Nail through the tape, putty the hole
through the tape and let it dry. Sand the putty and tape off. The tape
will keep the putty in the hole and not let it spread over the surrounding
wood.
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> Hi Guys
>
> I'm using a gel stain("golden oak" is the color) on red oak veneer
> plywood. It works fine, except where I use wood putty to cover up
> some nail holes. I have no problem with the actual putty in the hole,
> but where I wiped the wood putty on around the hole, the wood doesn't
> take as heavy a stain..it's noticably lighter. Its like the the putty
> blocks the stain from penetrating as deeply.
>
> Is there a fix for this? I don't want to sand thru the veneer.
>
> Al
NEVER fill the nail holes with putty UNTIL after the first coat or two of
topcoat are applied .. .. .. for exactly this reason.
"[email protected]" wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I'm using a gel stain("golden oak" is the color) on red oak veneer
> plywood. It works fine, except where I use wood putty to cover up
> some nail holes. I have no problem with the actual putty in the hole,
> but where I wiped the wood putty on around the hole, the wood doesn't
> take as heavy a stain..it's noticably lighter. Its like the the putty
> blocks the stain from penetrating as deeply.
>
> Is there a fix for this? I don't want to sand thru the veneer.
>
> Al
--
I AM NOT PARANOID .. .. .. but EVERYONE thinks I am !! !! !!
<<<__ Bob __>>>
I stain, apply first coat or two of varnish/lacquer, fill holes with wax
type pencil, smooth out the filler, finish adding topcoats. In the rare
event I use wood dough type filler, I touch up the filler with stain and a
"Q"-tip prior to adding topcoats. I've tried filling the holes prior to
applying any finish, and have never been satisfied with the results .. .. ..
always showed at least some signs of blotching, which makes sense, as you
cannot reliably fill the nail holes without getting some of the putty in the
pores of the surrounding surface. I've simply given up even trying, as it
wastes too much time and gives me significantly inferior results.
Jim wrote:
> Well if you don't fill them before the top coat, how do you ever get
> them colored? I've started filling them first, sanding (leaving them a
> bit sunken after they dry) and then using the wax pencils after the
> first couple of top coats.
>
> Either that or Pore-o-pac the whole thing if it is something like red
> oak....
>
> "<<<___ Bob ___>>>" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > NEVER fill the nail holes with putty UNTIL after the first coat or two
> > of topcoat are applied .. .. .. for exactly this reason.
> >
> > --
> > I AM NOT PARANOID .. .. .. but EVERYONE thinks I am !! !! !!
> >
> > <<<__ Bob __>>>
> >
> >
> >
--
I AM NOT PARANOID .. .. .. but EVERYONE thinks I am !! !! !!
<<<__ Bob __>>>
[email protected] ([email protected]) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi Guys
>
> I'm using a gel stain("golden oak" is the color) on red oak veneer
> plywood. It works fine, except where I use wood putty to cover up
> some nail holes. I have no problem with the actual putty in the hole,
> but where I wiped the wood putty on around the hole, the wood doesn't
> take as heavy a stain..it's noticably lighter. Its like the the putty
> blocks the stain from penetrating as deeply.
>
> Is there a fix for this? I don't want to sand thru the veneer.
>
> Al
Take a cloth dampened with naptha and wipe off the wax. I do not know
if that will work now after you stained. Many fillers, especially the
stick types have wax in them. I always fill after staining and top
coating, unless I use sanding dust and hide glue for a filler.If the
excess filler is not wax, a wood putty filler that dries hard, see if
you can scrape it off.
mike
"<<<___ Bob ___>>>" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> NEVER fill the nail holes with putty UNTIL after the first coat or two of
> topcoat are applied .. .. .. for exactly this reason.
You can protect the area with masking tape. Nail through the tape and apply
putty through that hole.
Well if you don't fill them before the top coat, how do you ever get
them colored? I've started filling them first, sanding (leaving them a
bit sunken after they dry) and then using the wax pencils after the
first couple of top coats.
Either that or Pore-o-pac the whole thing if it is something like red
oak....
"<<<___ Bob ___>>>" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> NEVER fill the nail holes with putty UNTIL after the first coat or two
> of topcoat are applied .. .. .. for exactly this reason.
>
> --
> I AM NOT PARANOID .. .. .. but EVERYONE thinks I am !! !! !!
>
> <<<__ Bob __>>>
>
>
>
that's why a trowelable pore filler, spread over the entire surface
works so much better. You won't see any areas that are shaded
differently. Next time, try that approach. You can apply it with a rag
or plastic trowel, wipe it off quickly, let it dry, then carefully
sand. Voila, the pores are filled and you will get a uniform color and
nicer finish, to boot. There are a number of trowelable fillers on the
market. I use a water based red oak formulation that works superbly.
It's made by Zar.
Anytime you apply a putty to a portion of an open pored wood, you are
gonna have this type of problem. Coat the entire surface with the same
thing, or keep everything off it until you stain. (Not including water
or mineral spirits, to check out your sanding or to raise the grain, nor
a stain conditioner, wash coat of shellac, etc.) BTW, I'm kinda new at
this, but I read a lot and someone will jump in to correct any factual
error that I make, so just hang on til tonight, to see if the WW gods
object! :)
dave
[email protected] wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I'm using a gel stain("golden oak" is the color) on red oak veneer
> plywood. It works fine, except where I use wood putty to cover up
> some nail holes. I have no problem with the actual putty in the hole,
> but where I wiped the wood putty on around the hole, the wood doesn't
> take as heavy a stain..it's noticably lighter. Its like the the putty
> blocks the stain from penetrating as deeply.
>
> Is there a fix for this? I don't want to sand thru the veneer.
>
> Al