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Calvin

28/04/2009 10:09 PM

Info request and gloat

Hi all,
Long time reader, 2nd time poster.

Last Saturday while out doing a food drive with my 2 cub scout sons, I
saw a "free" sign and some items next to it, as I got closer, there it
was. A Rockwell/Homecraft 4" jointer and an electric motor.

Photos are posted at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilleyboys3/


Does anyone have an idea where can I find a manual for this machine?
The jointer bearings need some work, possibly replacement. Any idea of
the age? The motor works great.

thanks in advance.

Craig


This topic has 16 replies

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Mike O.

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

28/04/2009 10:45 PM

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:09:19 -0500, Calvin <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Photos are posted at:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilleyboys3/
>
>
>Does anyone have an idea where can I find a manual for this machine?
>The jointer bearings need some work, possibly replacement. Any idea of
>the age? The motor works great.


Here's the closest I could find at OWWM.

http://www.owwm.com/pubs/698/2735.pdf

The parts diagram shows a little different casting but the picture on
the first page shows the same lower casting as is on yours.
Although this from the South Africa division, my guess is they are the
same or very close.


Mike O.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

28/04/2009 10:17 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Calvin
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Long time reader, 2nd time poster.
>
> Last Saturday while out doing a food drive with my 2 cub scout sons, I
> saw a "free" sign and some items next to it, as I got closer, there it
> was. A Rockwell/Homecraft 4" jointer and an electric motor.
>
> Photos are posted at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilleyboys3/
>
>
> Does anyone have an idea where can I find a manual for this machine?
> The jointer bearings need some work, possibly replacement. Any idea of
> the age? The motor works great.

It looks a lot like my National jointer.
<http://owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=1221>

Manual here: <http://www.woodenwabbits.com/4Jointer.pdf>

HTH.

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

04/05/2009 10:57 PM

On Mon, 04 May 2009 22:54:01 -0500, Tom Veatch <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 May 2009 10:37:51 -0500, Calvin <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Anyone have any ideas on how to remove the bearings from the cutter head?
>>They need to be serviced or replaced.
>>Thanks.
>
>Don't know anything about that model jointer, but if the bearings are
>on a shaft integral with the cutterhead, won't a set of gear or
>bearing pullers work to pull them off the shafts? A cheap set like
>these worked quite well to pull the bearings on my Jet 6" jointer.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Pit-Bull-3-Gear-Puller/dp/B0025ZC1Y6/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1241495294&sr=1-16
>
>
>
>
>Tom Veatch
>Wichita, KS
>USA


Additionally, a deep socket sized to bear on the inner race of the
replacement bearings and a dead blow mallet worked fine to seat the
replacement bearings on the shaft.

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

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Mike O.

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

28/04/2009 10:32 PM

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:09:19 -0500, Calvin <[email protected]>
wrote:

>A Rockwell/Homecraft 4" jointer and an electric motor.
>
>Photos are posted at:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilleyboys3/
>
>
>Does anyone have an idea where can I find a manual for this machine?
>The jointer bearings need some work, possibly replacement. Any idea of
>the age? The motor works great.


Try here first.
http://www.owwm.com/

Mike O.

r

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

02/05/2009 6:24 AM

Looks like a close cousin to a Craftsman machine I got in a garage
sale about 20 or more years ago. It was on a home-made wooden stand
and the motor was mounted on a simple, but effective, hinged platform
with a screw/wingnut arrangement for belt tension adjustment.
Previously used by a trim carpenter. The main difference was, as I
recall, it had small handcranks instead of the knobs for adjustment.
It was a pretty good little machine that served me well until I got my
Powermatic. If my brain had been attached I would have kept it or
passed it on to our son. I have lost track of part numbers but you
might try the Sears site. In the 60's, and before, Craftsman was a
fairly respected brand in woodworking machinery.


>
> Gotta love the Dominican Republic :-)

YEAH -- What he said!!

RonB

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nhurst

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

29/04/2009 6:47 AM

On Apr 28, 11:09=A0pm, Calvin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Long time reader, 2nd time poster.
>
> Last Saturday while out doing a food drive with my 2 cub scout sons, I
> saw a "free" sign and some items next to it, as I got closer, there it
> was. =A0A Rockwell/Homecraft 4" jointer and an electric motor.
>
> Photos are posted at:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilleyboys3/
>
> Does anyone have an idea where can I find a manual for this machine? =A0
> The jointer bearings need some work, possibly replacement. =A0Any idea of
> the age? The motor works great.
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> Craig

Nice looking free tool. I'm jealous!

So you suck!

But, I'm left wondering why you didn't move the camera a little more
to the right on that last photo; the one at Playa Grande.

Ah well!

-Nathan

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

04/05/2009 3:12 AM


"Calvin" wrote:

> Not the answer I was looking for, but thank you for all the great
> info.

Find the right machine shop and a decent 12 pack after hours should
make a good barter.

Just curious, why do you think the bearings need replacement?

Lew

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Tom Veatch

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

04/05/2009 10:54 PM

On Sun, 03 May 2009 10:37:51 -0500, Calvin <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Anyone have any ideas on how to remove the bearings from the cutter head?
>They need to be serviced or replaced.
>Thanks.

Don't know anything about that model jointer, but if the bearings are
on a shaft integral with the cutterhead, won't a set of gear or
bearing pullers work to pull them off the shafts? A cheap set like
these worked quite well to pull the bearings on my Jet 6" jointer.

http://www.amazon.com/Pit-Bull-3-Gear-Puller/dp/B0025ZC1Y6/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1241495294&sr=1-16




Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

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Calvin

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

29/04/2009 5:19 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Calvin" wrote:
>
> > Long time reader, 2nd time poster.
> >
> > Last Saturday while out doing a food drive with my 2 cub scout sons,
> > I
> > saw a "free" sign and some items next to it, as I got closer, there
> > it
> > was. A Rockwell/Homecraft 4" jointer and an electric motor.
> >
> > Photos are posted at:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilleyboys3/
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have an idea where can I find a manual for this machine?
> > The jointer bearings need some work, possibly replacement. Any idea
> > of
> > the age? The motor works great.
>
>
> Must be a gazillion of these jointers out there.
>
> Make sure the sheave on the jointer is steel, NOT die cast.
>
> Die cast will rattle and need replacement with in a short time.
>
> Uses 1/8 x 4 cutter knives.
>
> Cutter head should operate around 4,000 RPM.
>
> Select sheave ratio accordingly.
>
> Have fun, it is a neat bench top unit.
>
> Am totally clueless about a manual, but there isn't much to the tool.
>
> Have fun.
>
> Lew


Mike, Dave and Lew,

Thanks for the info. I now have a starting place to get this think up
to speed and joint some wood.

Craig

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Calvin

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

04/05/2009 10:13 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Calvin" wrote:
>
> > Not the answer I was looking for, but thank you for all the great
> > info.
>
> Find the right machine shop and a decent 12 pack after hours should
> make a good barter.
>
> Just curious, why do you think the bearings need replacement?
>
> Lew

They do not spin freely, seem, to hop or stutter.
I guess I am assuming that they are supposed to spin freely. The cutter
head does not spin freely at all.

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Calvin

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

03/05/2009 10:37 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Calvin <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article
> <598f07ee-634c-45d5-9d22-2db2769fc125@f41g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
> nhurst <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 28, 11:09 pm, Calvin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > Long time reader, 2nd time poster.
> > >
> > > Last Saturday while out doing a food drive with my 2 cub scout sons, I
> > > saw a "free" sign and some items next to it, as I got closer, there it
> > > was.  A Rockwell/Homecraft 4" jointer and an electric motor.
> > >
> > > Photos are posted at:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilleyboys3/
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an idea where can I find a manual for this machine?  
> > > The jointer bearings need some work, possibly replacement.  Any idea of
> > > the age? The motor works great.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Craig
> >
> > Nice looking free tool. I'm jealous!
> >
> > So you suck!
> >
> > But, I'm left wondering why you didn't move the camera a little more
> > to the right on that last photo; the one at Playa Grande.
> >
> > Ah well!
> >
> > -Nathan
>
> Gotta love the Dominican Republic :-)


Anyone have any ideas on how to remove the bearings from the cutter head?
They need to be serviced or replaced.
Thanks.

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Calvin

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

03/05/2009 9:43 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Calvin" wrote:
>
> > Anyone have any ideas on how to remove the bearings from the cutter
> > head?
> > They need to be serviced or replaced.
>
>
> You need an arbor press and the knowledge that goes with it.
>
> Time to find a machine shop.
>
> Lew

Not the answer I was looking for, but thank you for all the great info.

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Calvin

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

02/05/2009 12:01 AM

In article
<598f07ee-634c-45d5-9d22-2db2769fc125@f41g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
nhurst <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Apr 28, 11:09 pm, Calvin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Long time reader, 2nd time poster.
> >
> > Last Saturday while out doing a food drive with my 2 cub scout sons, I
> > saw a "free" sign and some items next to it, as I got closer, there it
> > was.  A Rockwell/Homecraft 4" jointer and an electric motor.
> >
> > Photos are posted at:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilleyboys3/
> >
> > Does anyone have an idea where can I find a manual for this machine?  
> > The jointer bearings need some work, possibly replacement.  Any idea of
> > the age? The motor works great.
> >
> > thanks in advance.
> >
> > Craig
>
> Nice looking free tool. I'm jealous!
>
> So you suck!
>
> But, I'm left wondering why you didn't move the camera a little more
> to the right on that last photo; the one at Playa Grande.
>
> Ah well!
>
> -Nathan

Gotta love the Dominican Republic :-)

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

05/05/2009 4:09 AM


"Calvin" wrote:

> They do not spin freely, seem, to hop or stutter.
> I guess I am assuming that they are supposed to spin freely. The
> cutter
> head does not spin freely at all.

Just to put things in perspective, Harbor Freight sells a Chinese
knock off 1 ton arbor press for $50.

A 12 pack of "Little Greenies", the pride of Holland, will go a long
way toward getting this job done on a barter basis.

You will need a couple of double sealed ball bearings, probably basic
203, available from any bearing supply house.

They can probably can also point you to toward a machine shop who can
help you.

Good luck.

Have fun.

Lew

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

29/04/2009 4:29 AM


"Calvin" wrote:

> Long time reader, 2nd time poster.
>
> Last Saturday while out doing a food drive with my 2 cub scout sons,
> I
> saw a "free" sign and some items next to it, as I got closer, there
> it
> was. A Rockwell/Homecraft 4" jointer and an electric motor.
>
> Photos are posted at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cilleyboys3/
>
>
> Does anyone have an idea where can I find a manual for this machine?
> The jointer bearings need some work, possibly replacement. Any idea
> of
> the age? The motor works great.


Must be a gazillion of these jointers out there.

Make sure the sheave on the jointer is steel, NOT die cast.

Die cast will rattle and need replacement with in a short time.

Uses 1/8 x 4 cutter knives.

Cutter head should operate around 4,000 RPM.

Select sheave ratio accordingly.

Have fun, it is a neat bench top unit.

Am totally clueless about a manual, but there isn't much to the tool.

Have fun.

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Calvin on 28/04/2009 10:09 PM

03/05/2009 4:04 PM


"Calvin" wrote:

> Anyone have any ideas on how to remove the bearings from the cutter
> head?
> They need to be serviced or replaced.


You need an arbor press and the knowledge that goes with it.

Time to find a machine shop.

Lew


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