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31/01/2004 6:51 PM

How To Darken A Finish?

My wife (who else would want to add extra work to a project?) has
decided she does not like the color of a honey oak cabinet I made.
The exterior has a wipe on poly over a honey colored gel stain, the
interior just the gel stain. Is there a way to get the color darker,
more of a "reddish-brown" shade without stripping the finish? I
realize thje interior shouldn't be a problem, my concern is the poly
finished sides.
Thanks.


This topic has 7 replies

Bp

"Baron"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/01/2004 6:51 PM

01/02/2004 1:57 PM

To darken the wood without obscuring the grain, try using some tinted
shellac first followed by overcoating with more poly. If you use something
like "Polyshades", you will find that the grain gets more obscured with each
coat. It is also a little tricky to avoid getting lap marks since the laps
will be darker due to two coats of the Polyshades. At least you can control
the extent to which you tint the shellac so you can more easily avoid lap
marks from showing. The shellac will also allow you to put down more poly
since it serves as an excellent sealer and intercoat.

Good Luck.

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My wife (who else would want to add extra work to a project?) has
> decided she does not like the color of a honey oak cabinet I made.
> The exterior has a wipe on poly over a honey colored gel stain, the
> interior just the gel stain. Is there a way to get the color darker,
> more of a "reddish-brown" shade without stripping the finish? I
> realize thje interior shouldn't be a problem, my concern is the poly
> finished sides.
> Thanks.

Wb

"Wilson"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/01/2004 6:51 PM

01/02/2004 11:02 PM

Play with the tints on test strips of the wood from the cabinet. Always use
test strips.


"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm not sure if you can successfully tint poly, but I would guess that's
> your only bet, and then apply probably several coats to the outside of the
> cabinet. Not sure how thick you'll build up the finish, but probably
> significantly. I would suggest stripping and starting over, if you want
to
> get a truly pleasing result.
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > My wife (who else would want to add extra work to a project?) has
> > decided she does not like the color of a honey oak cabinet I made.
> > The exterior has a wipe on poly over a honey colored gel stain, the
> > interior just the gel stain. Is there a way to get the color darker,
> > more of a "reddish-brown" shade without stripping the finish? I
> > realize thje interior shouldn't be a problem, my concern is the poly
> > finished sides.
> > Thanks.
>
>

MH

"Mike Hide"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/01/2004 6:51 PM

31/01/2004 9:25 PM

Black paint works for me .....mjh

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My wife (who else would want to add extra work to a project?) has
> decided she does not like the color of a honey oak cabinet I made.
> The exterior has a wipe on poly over a honey colored gel stain, the
> interior just the gel stain. Is there a way to get the color darker,
> more of a "reddish-brown" shade without stripping the finish? I
> realize thje interior shouldn't be a problem, my concern is the poly
> finished sides.
> Thanks.

Tt

"Toller"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/01/2004 6:51 PM

31/01/2004 7:19 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My wife (who else would want to add extra work to a project?) has
> decided she does not like the color of a honey oak cabinet I made.
> The exterior has a wipe on poly over a honey colored gel stain, the
> interior just the gel stain. Is there a way to get the color darker,
> more of a "reddish-brown" shade without stripping the finish? I
> realize thje interior shouldn't be a problem, my concern is the poly
> finished sides.
> Thanks.

Put one of those Stain/Poly mixes over it. I did it to some chairs so I
wouldn't have to strip them. Wasn't anywhere near perfect (the stain/poly
is difficult to get even) but it was close enough for the purpose and easy.

nn

in reply to [email protected] on 31/01/2004 6:51 PM

01/02/2004 11:26 AM

TransTint dyes can be mixed in waterbased poly but a severe risk of
ending up with stripes exists if brushing is application method.
Agree with the several coats.

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:16:28 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm not sure if you can successfully tint poly, but I would guess that's
>your only bet, and then apply probably several coats to the outside of the
>cabinet. Not sure how thick you'll build up the finish, but probably
>significantly. I would suggest stripping and starting over, if you want to
>get a truly pleasing result.
>
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> My wife (who else would want to add extra work to a project?) has
>> decided she does not like the color of a honey oak cabinet I made.
>> The exterior has a wipe on poly over a honey colored gel stain, the
>> interior just the gel stain. Is there a way to get the color darker,
>> more of a "reddish-brown" shade without stripping the finish? I
>> realize thje interior shouldn't be a problem, my concern is the poly
>> finished sides.
>> Thanks.
>

Mi

"Mike in Mystic"

in reply to [email protected] on 31/01/2004 6:51 PM

31/01/2004 7:16 PM

I'm not sure if you can successfully tint poly, but I would guess that's
your only bet, and then apply probably several coats to the outside of the
cabinet. Not sure how thick you'll build up the finish, but probably
significantly. I would suggest stripping and starting over, if you want to
get a truly pleasing result.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My wife (who else would want to add extra work to a project?) has
> decided she does not like the color of a honey oak cabinet I made.
> The exterior has a wipe on poly over a honey colored gel stain, the
> interior just the gel stain. Is there a way to get the color darker,
> more of a "reddish-brown" shade without stripping the finish? I
> realize thje interior shouldn't be a problem, my concern is the poly
> finished sides.
> Thanks.

l

in reply to [email protected] on 31/01/2004 6:51 PM

31/01/2004 9:16 PM

This seems to be the direction I was heading. I'll give it a try; if
it needs to be stripped I'll let her do it!
>
>Put one of those Stain/Poly mixes over it. I did it to some chairs so I
>wouldn't have to strip them. Wasn't anywhere near perfect (the stain/poly
>is difficult to get even) but it was close enough for the purpose and easy.
>


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