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stickdoctorq

19/12/2003 12:26 AM

old beaver machinery....

I have an opportunity to pick up some old machines from an acquaintance...

-old floorstanding Beaver drill press - looks like about a 6"-10" travel
and about a 20" swing....
-old Beaver jointer (looks like 4", but could be 6"...very short beds for a
6" though)
-old General (Quebec) 14" bandsaw. Cast iron wheels, huge casting, one
piece upper/lower wheel cover.

I would guess they are at least 20 years old and probably more.


Are these worth the time and investment? The owner assures me they all run
fine, he just does not use them anymore...They came from what used to be a
family furniture factory.

As for what I may have to do to them in terms of tuneup/maintenance, dunno
about the jointer, the drill press seems fine and I know I will have to at
least replace the tires on the bandsaw.

Any comments out there about the value of these as woodworking machines,
any potential problems, and any guesstimates as to a fair value for these
things...


This topic has 9 replies

dD

[email protected] (Daniel Martin)

in reply to stickdoctorq on 19/12/2003 12:26 AM

19/12/2003 9:11 AM

I own a 25 year old Rockwel/Beaver table saw that runs just fine.
However my saw has been used as a hobbyist, I did not run a furniture
shop with it. That would be my only concern is the constant wear.
Unless the price is really good.

D.Martin



Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> fuckspammersdiediedie.com wrote:
> >I have an opportunity to pick up some old machines from an acquaintance...
>
> Explain "acquaintance".
>
> >-old floorstanding Beaver drill press - looks like about a 6"-10" travel
> >and about a 20" swing....
>
> That's a big Beaver. From what I've seen the Beaver line
> was something resembling the old Homecraft line from Delta.
> As a matter of fact Rockwell (Delta) did end up buying the
> company and ran it making machines for the Kanadian market.
>
> I could be wrong.
>
> >-old Beaver jointer (looks like 4", but could be 6"...very short beds for a
> >6" though)
>
> I would lean towards it being a 4". As I said, Beaver =
> Homecraft (smaller machines).
>
> >-old General (Quebec) 14" bandsaw. Cast iron wheels, huge casting, one
> >piece upper/lower wheel cover.
>
> Probably the keeper of the three.
>
> >I would guess they are at least 20 years old and probably more.
>
> I would guess more by at least double your estimate.
>
> >Are these worth the time and investment?
>
> That's a tough one to evaluate. For the Beavers I'd say
> maybe. For the General I'd say most likely.
>
> >Any comments out there about the value of these as woodworking machines,
> >any potential problems, and any guesstimates as to a fair value for these
> >things...
>
> It's hard to say. Machinery evaluations aren't something
> you'd want to do over the phone much less across Al Gore's
> Internet. Pictures would help but a close up evaluation
> would be better.
>
> UA100

MR

Mark

in reply to stickdoctorq on 19/12/2003 12:26 AM

19/12/2003 9:53 PM



stickdoctorq wrote:

> I have an opportunity to pick up some old machines from an acquaintance...
>
> -old floorstanding Beaver drill press -



Oh Hell, I thought this thread would be about toys for old Chicks ..,

<G>

Never mind.




--

Mark

N.E. Ohio


Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)

sw

stickdoctorq

in reply to stickdoctorq on 19/12/2003 12:26 AM

19/12/2003 5:41 PM

Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> fuckspammersdiediedie.com wrote:
>>I have an opportunity to pick up some old machines from an
>>acquaintance...
>
> Explain "acquaintance".


a family friend....


>
>>-old floorstanding Beaver drill press - looks like about a 6"-10"
>>travel and about a 20" swing....
>
> That's a big Beaver. From what I've seen the Beaver line
> was something resembling the old Homecraft line from Delta.
> As a matter of fact Rockwell (Delta) did end up buying the
> company and ran it making machines for the Kanadian market.
>
> I could be wrong.


this looks just like it...

http://www.owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id=976


>
>>-old Beaver jointer (looks like 4", but could be 6"...very short beds
>>for a 6" though)
>
> I would lean towards it being a 4". As I said, Beaver =
> Homecraft (smaller machines).
>
>>-old General (Quebec) 14" bandsaw. Cast iron wheels, huge casting,
>>one piece upper/lower wheel cover.
>
> Probably the keeper of the three.
>
>>I would guess they are at least 20 years old and probably more.
>
> I would guess more by at least double your estimate.
>
>>Are these worth the time and investment?
>
> That's a tough one to evaluate. For the Beavers I'd say
> maybe. For the General I'd say most likely.
>
>>Any comments out there about the value of these as woodworking
>>machines, any potential problems, and any guesstimates as to a fair
>>value for these things...
>
> It's hard to say. Machinery evaluations aren't something
> you'd want to do over the phone much less across Al Gore's
> Internet. Pictures would help but a close up evaluation
> would be better.
>
> UA100


I will see if I can get pics or model numbers.

jj

jo4hn

in reply to stickdoctorq on 19/12/2003 12:26 AM

20/12/2003 3:37 AM

Inside a warm and moist place, I'll wager.
j4

Unisaw A100 wrote:

> Silvan wrote:
>
>>I'm glad I held my tongue long enough to avoid being the first. :)
>
>
> But where did you hold your tongue?
>
> UA100

BS

"Bob S."

in reply to stickdoctorq on 19/12/2003 12:26 AM

19/12/2003 2:00 AM

Hopefully Keith (UA100) will jump in here since I think it was him that
helped someone else with one of these jointers and what to look for when
checking it out. Seems to me it has Babbitt bearings on the cutterhead and
they were looking for replacements. I think it was Keith that told them how
to make the bearings.

Try looking here http://www.owwm.com for the tools and then if you want to
know more about Babbitt bearings here's a couple

http://www.babbitt-inc.com/ (right here in Syracuse)
http://www.pmebabbittbearings.com/ (may be near you?)
http://www.pmebabbittbearings.com/

Bob S.

"stickdoctorq" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> I have an opportunity to pick up some old machines from an acquaintance...
>
> -old floorstanding Beaver drill press - looks like about a 6"-10" travel
> and about a 20" swing....
> -old Beaver jointer (looks like 4", but could be 6"...very short beds for
a
> 6" though)
> -old General (Quebec) 14" bandsaw. Cast iron wheels, huge casting, one
> piece upper/lower wheel cover.
>
> I would guess they are at least 20 years old and probably more.
>
>
> Are these worth the time and investment? The owner assures me they all
run
> fine, he just does not use them anymore...They came from what used to be a
> family furniture factory.
>
> As for what I may have to do to them in terms of tuneup/maintenance, dunno
> about the jointer, the drill press seems fine and I know I will have to at
> least replace the tires on the bandsaw.
>
> Any comments out there about the value of these as woodworking machines,
> any potential problems, and any guesstimates as to a fair value for these
> things...

Sd

Silvan

in reply to stickdoctorq on 19/12/2003 12:26 AM

20/12/2003 1:50 AM

jo4hn wrote:

>> But where did you hold your tongue?

> Inside a warm and moist place, I'll wager.

Ya damn skippy.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to stickdoctorq on 19/12/2003 12:26 AM

19/12/2003 10:12 AM

fuckspammersdiediedie.com wrote:
>I have an opportunity to pick up some old machines from an acquaintance...

Explain "acquaintance".

>-old floorstanding Beaver drill press - looks like about a 6"-10" travel
>and about a 20" swing....

That's a big Beaver. From what I've seen the Beaver line
was something resembling the old Homecraft line from Delta.
As a matter of fact Rockwell (Delta) did end up buying the
company and ran it making machines for the Kanadian market.

I could be wrong.

>-old Beaver jointer (looks like 4", but could be 6"...very short beds for a
>6" though)

I would lean towards it being a 4". As I said, Beaver =
Homecraft (smaller machines).

>-old General (Quebec) 14" bandsaw. Cast iron wheels, huge casting, one
>piece upper/lower wheel cover.

Probably the keeper of the three.

>I would guess they are at least 20 years old and probably more.

I would guess more by at least double your estimate.

>Are these worth the time and investment?

That's a tough one to evaluate. For the Beavers I'd say
maybe. For the General I'd say most likely.

>Any comments out there about the value of these as woodworking machines,
>any potential problems, and any guesstimates as to a fair value for these
>things...

It's hard to say. Machinery evaluations aren't something
you'd want to do over the phone much less across Al Gore's
Internet. Pictures would help but a close up evaluation
would be better.

UA100

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to stickdoctorq on 19/12/2003 12:26 AM

20/12/2003 2:51 AM

Silvan wrote:
>I'm glad I held my tongue long enough to avoid being the first. :)

But where did you hold your tongue?

UA100

Sd

Silvan

in reply to stickdoctorq on 19/12/2003 12:26 AM

19/12/2003 9:10 PM

Mark wrote:

> Oh Hell, I thought this thread would be about toys for old Chicks ..,
>
> <G>
>
> Never mind.

Congratulations! You win the bad taste award!

I'm glad I held my tongue long enough to avoid being the first. :)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/


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