I've had this plane in my chest for a few years now, never used it, but was
looking at it on the weekend. It's a coffin type wooden plane, smoother
size, iron is bedded at about 60 degrees and the iron is grooved on the top
surface at about 1/8" intervals. My thought was end grain butcher blocks?
What angle would I sharpen it at?
Thanks, Brian
Brian wrote:
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> I've had this plane in my chest for a few years now, never used it, but was
> looking at it on the weekend. It's a coffin type wooden plane, smoother
> size, iron is bedded at about 60 degrees and the iron is grooved on the top
> surface at about 1/8" intervals.
Use it for hogging curly maple. Violinmakers use toothed irons for
carving backs to minimize tearout. Primo-grade Carpathian fiddleback
maple ain't cheap.
> My thought was end grain butcher blocks?
Guess where the "block" in "block plane" came from.
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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:50:25 -0400, "Brian" <brian.evans@mci%%%.com>
>wrote:
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>>I've had this plane in my chest for a few years now, never used it, but was
>>looking at it on the weekend. It's a coffin type wooden plane, smoother
>>size, iron is bedded at about 60 degrees and the iron is grooved on the top
>>surface at about 1/8" intervals. My thought was end grain butcher blocks?
>>What angle would I sharpen it at?
>>
>>
>>
>It is a toothing plane. One use, probably not the intended one, is for
>working down very thin strips of curly maple for lute staves. A normal
>plane would tear out because of the curl.
>
>With a toothing plane you can rough up the surface, then scrape.
>Repeat until thin enough.
>
>I have seen writing saying they are used to make a gluing surface.
>This doesn't make sense because glue joints are stronger if they fit
>without gaps.
>
>
>
>Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a
>
>
> MOM CASTS TOT IN CEMENT
>
>Most experts voice cautious optimism
>
>
Actually I think toothing planes were indeed used for roughing up
surfaces not only before glueing on veneers but also for joining massive
wood. It was only two weeks ago that a professional craftsmen told me to
use a toothing plane on oak panels after having straightened them on
the joiner. This may make sense if you use traditional hide glue (I
doubt whether with PVAc it is necessary).
I only know about European continental planes but they have a much
steeper angle, about 75 degrees or so (there are two beside my keyboard
right now both made in Vienna in the twenties by Joh. Weiss).
They are still produced so they must be still in use. Have a look at
http://www.feinewerkzeuge.de/divhob.htm
(text in German unfortunately).
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<pre wrap="">I've had this plane in my chest for a few years now, never used it, but was
looking at it on the weekend. It's a coffin type wooden plane, smoother
size, iron is bedded at about 60 degrees and the iron is grooved on the top
surface at about 1/8" intervals. My thought was end grain butcher blocks?
What angle would I sharpen it at?
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<pre wrap=""><!---->It is a toothing plane. One use, probably not the intended one, is for
working down very thin strips of curly maple for lute staves. A normal
plane would tear out because of the curl.
With a toothing plane you can rough up the surface, then scrape.
Repeat until thin enough.
I have seen writing saying they are used to make a gluing surface.
This doesn't make sense because glue joints are stronger if they fit
without gaps.
Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a
MOM CASTS TOT IN CEMENT
Most experts voice cautious optimism
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Actually I think toothing planes were indeed used for roughing up surfaces
not only before glueing on veneers but also for joining massive wood. It
was only two weeks ago that a professional craftsmen told me to use a toothing
plane on oak panels after having straightened them on the joiner. This may
make sense if you use traditional hide glue (I doubt whether with PVAc it
is necessary).<br>
I only know about European continental planes but they have a much steeper
angle, about 75 degrees or so (there are two beside my keyboard right now
both made in Vienna in the twenties by Joh. Weiss).<br>
They are still produced so they must be still in use. Have a look at<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.feinewerkzeuge.de/divhob.htm">http://www.feinewerkzeuge.de/divhob.htm</a><br>
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Check out http://www.lie-nielsen.com/faq.html?cart=106134542431441#10 for an
explanation of toothed blades for scraper and smoother planes.
Preston
"Brian" <brian.evans@mci%%%.com> wrote in message
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> I've had this plane in my chest for a few years now, never used it, but
was
> looking at it on the weekend. It's a coffin type wooden plane, smoother
> size, iron is bedded at about 60 degrees and the iron is grooved on the
top
> surface at about 1/8" intervals. My thought was end grain butcher blocks?
> What angle would I sharpen it at?
>
> Thanks, Brian
>
>
"Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D. P.A." <cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com> wrote in message news:<3F42B437.1F10@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com>...
> Brian wrote:
> >
> > I've had this plane in my chest for a few years now, never used it, but was
> > looking at it on the weekend. It's a coffin type wooden plane, smoother
> > size, iron is bedded at about 60 degrees and the iron is grooved on the top
> > surface at about 1/8" intervals.
>
> Use it for hogging curly maple. Violinmakers use toothed irons for
> carving backs to minimize tearout. Primo-grade Carpathian fiddleback
> maple ain't cheap.
>
> > My thought was end grain butcher blocks?
>
> Guess where the "block" in "block plane" came from.
'Blocking in' is a term for the process of trimming small amounts
of material from a piece that is just a bit too big. A block
plane is the tool to use.
They are good for smoothing butcher blocks too.
I dunno which came first.
--
FF
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:50:25 -0400, "Brian" <brian.evans@mci%%%.com>
wrote:
>I've had this plane in my chest for a few years now, never used it, but was
>looking at it on the weekend. It's a coffin type wooden plane, smoother
>size, iron is bedded at about 60 degrees and the iron is grooved on the top
>surface at about 1/8" intervals. My thought was end grain butcher blocks?
>What angle would I sharpen it at?
>
It is a toothing plane. One use, probably not the intended one, is for
working down very thin strips of curly maple for lute staves. A normal
plane would tear out because of the curl.
With a toothing plane you can rough up the surface, then scrape.
Repeat until thin enough.
I have seen writing saying they are used to make a gluing surface.
This doesn't make sense because glue joints are stronger if they fit
without gaps.
Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a
MOM CASTS TOT IN CEMENT
Most experts voice cautious optimism
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:50:25 -0400, "Brian" <brian.evans@mci%%%.com>
wrote:
> iron is bedded at about 60 degrees and the iron is grooved on the top
>surface at about 1/8" intervals.
A "toothing" plane, used to prepare a ground for veneering.
Also useful for planing unplaneable grain.
Sharpen to almost any angle, it's not critical. About 45° is typical.