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"Carter"

09/05/2004 2:25 PM

shop vac recommendations?

Hi,

I could use some help. I can't really figure out what I should buy for
cleaning up sawdust in my garage shop.

I currently have a QSP 10 gal shopvac. The noise doesn't bother me too
much but it does have other issues. I've never fill it more than 3
inches before the paper filter clogs. After it clogs, the motor goes
into a high pitched wail. That's when I know I have to clean the
filter. I use a combination of a slapping it against the side of a
large trash can and using a soft bristled brush to "comb" out the
inner folds of the filter. It also gives me an electrical shock if I
touch a metal part when the machine is running. (At first I thought I
had a defective unit. I returned it and got another. It did the same
thing. I also checked the primary ground in the house. It's fine. This
same thing also happened when I used the unit at a newly purchased
house.)

I live where the weather is very nice. I use my contractor saw and do
my sanding & routing outside in the driveway. I have a Delta overhead
unit to take the fine dust out of the air in the garage. (This works
very well.) I don't use dust collection on my mitersaw, bandsaw or
drill press.

I usually use a broom to sweep up the biggest piles of sawdust and
chips and then use the shopvac on the rest.

I "googled" past posts. I read many articles the Fein, Festool and
Porter-Cable vacuums.

I like what I read on the Fein but a few people said that it is better
on dust extraction than picking up sawdust off the floor. The Festool
looks like it is best used if you want to run all Festool hand tools.
The Porter-Cable looks like it is better for picking up the fine dust
rather than the chips and piles of sawdust.

So.... I can't really figure out if any of the other tools would be an
improvement or if I should just keep getting lightly shocked with my
current fast clogging unit.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can offer.


This topic has 10 replies

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"mp"

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

09/05/2004 1:17 PM

> You might want to look at the Gortex filter by Cleanstream. It's HEPA
> and washable so cleaning it should be easier than the paper filter
> you're using. You can do a search on Amazon.com to see what I'm
> talking about. I know Lowes carries it, but I'm not sure if Home Depot
> does.

Lee Valley carries them too. They work great. You can even use them for
drywall dust. Only problem is that they clog up even faster than the paper
filters, which means the use of a bag is necessary unless you enjoy cleaning
the filter every half hour or so.

Cc

"Carter"

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

14/05/2004 2:57 AM

Thanks a very good suggestion. I never even considered that
possibility.

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"Carter"

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

09/05/2004 5:10 PM

Hi,

No need for further replys.

After about 30 minutes of rummaging around I found the instruction
manual. You're right. It shows an optional filter available. Thanks
for saving me some money. (Otherwise I might have purchased another
vacuum.) I'll try your suggestion. It might just do the trick.

Thanks again.

Cc

"Carter"

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

09/05/2004 5:13 PM

Thanks for mentioning that.

Using an plug in type tester, the outlet(s) show no open ground. I'll
just make sure I'm not standing in a puddle of water when I'm using
the unit.

bb

"bowhunter"

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

10/05/2004 2:23 AM

The shock you're getting is probably from static. If the relative humidity
is very low where you are, then static shocks are much more likely. Try
applying some paint to the exposed metal surfaces. It may help.

Bowhunter

Ee

"Ellestad"

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

09/05/2004 11:57 AM

You say that the house ground is fine but have you checked the wiring of the
individual outlet?

Tim

"Carter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I could use some help. I can't really figure out what I should buy for
> cleaning up sawdust in my garage shop.
>
> I currently have a QSP 10 gal shopvac. The noise doesn't bother me too
> much but it does have other issues. I've never fill it more than 3
> inches before the paper filter clogs. After it clogs, the motor goes
> into a high pitched wail. That's when I know I have to clean the
> filter. I use a combination of a slapping it against the side of a
> large trash can and using a soft bristled brush to "comb" out the
> inner folds of the filter. It also gives me an electrical shock if I
> touch a metal part when the machine is running. (At first I thought I
> had a defective unit. I returned it and got another. It did the same
> thing. I also checked the primary ground in the house. It's fine. This
> same thing also happened when I used the unit at a newly purchased
> house.)
>
> I live where the weather is very nice. I use my contractor saw and do
> my sanding & routing outside in the driveway. I have a Delta overhead
> unit to take the fine dust out of the air in the garage. (This works
> very well.) I don't use dust collection on my mitersaw, bandsaw or
> drill press.
>
> I usually use a broom to sweep up the biggest piles of sawdust and
> chips and then use the shopvac on the rest.
>
> I "googled" past posts. I read many articles the Fein, Festool and
> Porter-Cable vacuums.
>
> I like what I read on the Fein but a few people said that it is better
> on dust extraction than picking up sawdust off the floor. The Festool
> looks like it is best used if you want to run all Festool hand tools.
> The Porter-Cable looks like it is better for picking up the fine dust
> rather than the chips and piles of sawdust.
>
> So.... I can't really figure out if any of the other tools would be an
> improvement or if I should just keep getting lightly shocked with my
> current fast clogging unit.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can offer.

L

Layne <>

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

09/05/2004 9:23 AM

Carter,

You might want to look at the Gortex filter by Cleanstream. It's HEPA
and washable so cleaning it should be easier than the paper filter
you're using. You can do a search on Amazon.com to see what I'm
talking about. I know Lowes carries it, but I'm not sure if Home Depot
does.

Layne

ps, usual disclaimers apply.

Cc

"Carter"

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

09/05/2004 4:30 PM

That sounds like a good idea.

I had no idea this vacuum could be used with a bag.

Where do I get the bags?

How do they attach?

Thanks for your suggestions.

b

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

09/05/2004 9:59 AM

On Sun, 09 May 2004 16:30:09 GMT, "Carter" <[email protected]> wrote:

>That sounds like a good idea.
>
>I had no idea this vacuum could be used with a bag.
>
>Where do I get the bags?
>
>How do they attach?
>
>Thanks for your suggestions.


I buy them at a local ace hardware. not all of the stores carry them,
and so far I've only found one store that carries the right size for
my vacuum. they are out there, though.

b

in reply to "Carter" on 09/05/2004 2:25 PM

09/05/2004 8:50 AM

On Sun, 09 May 2004 14:25:53 GMT, "Carter" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I could use some help. I can't really figure out what I should buy for
>cleaning up sawdust in my garage shop.
>
>I currently have a QSP 10 gal shopvac. The noise doesn't bother me too
>much but it does have other issues. I've never fill it more than 3
>inches before the paper filter clogs. After it clogs, the motor goes
>into a high pitched wail. That's when I know I have to clean the
>filter. I use a combination of a slapping it against the side of a
>large trash can and using a soft bristled brush to "comb" out the
>inner folds of the filter. It also gives me an electrical shock if I
>touch a metal part when the machine is running. (At first I thought I
>had a defective unit. I returned it and got another. It did the same
>thing. I also checked the primary ground in the house. It's fine. This
>same thing also happened when I used the unit at a newly purchased
>house.)
>
>I live where the weather is very nice. I use my contractor saw and do
>my sanding & routing outside in the driveway. I have a Delta overhead
>unit to take the fine dust out of the air in the garage. (This works
>very well.) I don't use dust collection on my mitersaw, bandsaw or
>drill press.
>
>I usually use a broom to sweep up the biggest piles of sawdust and
>chips and then use the shopvac on the rest.
>
>I "googled" past posts. I read many articles the Fein, Festool and
>Porter-Cable vacuums.
>
>I like what I read on the Fein but a few people said that it is better
>on dust extraction than picking up sawdust off the floor. The Festool
>looks like it is best used if you want to run all Festool hand tools.
>The Porter-Cable looks like it is better for picking up the fine dust
>rather than the chips and piles of sawdust.
>
>So.... I can't really figure out if any of the other tools would be an
>improvement or if I should just keep getting lightly shocked with my
>current fast clogging unit.
>
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can offer.



you'll get much better performance from this vacuum if you run it with
a bag as well as with the pleated filter.


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