DD

David Duxbury

18/05/2004 8:29 PM

Finishing MDF

Is there a good steam proof, water resistant finish I could use on MDF,
I have plastic coated doors on my kitchen cabinets they dont stand up to
steam very well, I know you say use hardwood, I will be selling the
house shortly and dont want to put out much money thanks.
Dave


This topic has 26 replies

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 7:15 PM

Why are ya askin me? I ain't buildin'em.

--
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop


"Henry E Schaffer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Pounds on Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I guess slab sided doors of MDF would be about as cheap as you can get.
But
> >for not a lot more you can get factory doors at the borg made of actual
> >honest to budda wood. Might help you sell the castle too.
>
> What about weight considerations? Or would the MDF be quite thin?
> --
> --henry schaffer
> hes _AT_ ncsu _DOT_ edu

pp

philski

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 9:46 PM

David Duxbury wrote:
> OH Leon I would never had thought to use paint how smart you are, thanks
> for nothing.
>
> Leon wrote:
>
>> Paint.
>>
>> "David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Is there a good steam proof, water resistant finish I could use on MDF,
>>> I have plastic coated doors on my kitchen cabinets they dont stand up to
>>> steam very well, I know you say use hardwood, I will be selling the
>>> house shortly and dont want to put out much money thanks.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Oh...David! You are going for a Natural Look with MDF? Some paints fit
the bill but are usually pretty poor for stopping moisture penetration.
Paint would be my first suggestion since you are going to sell anyway.
But hey, since you seem to disdain paint, just what look are you going
for? Say...how 'bout some of that fake peel-and-stick "wood" look-alike
covering? Go figure......

Philski

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 3:15 PM

On Thu, 20 May 2004 10:44:27 -0500, David Duxbury <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well thanks to you who sent back positive input, I am aware of the
> shortcomings of MDF and I do know how to paint, seeing the original
> doors are covered with some for of plastic Vinyl or whatever it is just
> maybe somebody has seen a product that would do the job, I post here for
> sound infomation if possible, and dont need sad comments from others.

Welcome to Usenet. A thick skin is necessary.

HW

Hoyt Weathers

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 11:11 AM

David Duxbury wrote:

> Well thanks to you who sent back positive input, I am aware of the
> shortcomings of MDF and I do know how to paint, seeing the original
> doors are covered with some for of plastic Vinyl or whatever it is just
> maybe somebody has seen a product that would do the job, I post here for
> sound infomation if possible, and dont need sad comments from others.
> Thanks D Duxbury

Some genuine humbleness from you might go a long way to improve your
positive/negative reply ratio.

HW

Hoyt Weathers

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 2:03 PM

Bay Area Dave wrote:

> LOL! that's a good one, coming from YOU, Hoyt! Humble you
> ain't!
>
> dave
>
> Hoyt Weathers wrote:
>
> >
> > Some genuine humbleness from you might go a long way to improve your
> > positive/negative reply ratio.
> >
> >

I never claimed to be humble BAD, just good-looking. [grin]

Hoyt W.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 6:31 PM

On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:29:53 -0500, David Duxbury <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Is there a good steam proof, water resistant finish I could use on MDF,
>I have plastic coated doors on my kitchen cabinets they dont stand up to
>steam very well, I know you say use hardwood, I will be selling the
>house shortly and dont want to put out much money thanks.
> Dave

I think that you would be surprised at how inexpensive it is to simply
buy new foil-wrapped mdf doors for your kitchen from a door supplier.

They can be ordered pre-drilled for your existing hardware and the
turn-around time on installation is very fast.

As the look of the kitchen is a major factor in the salability of a
house, you might be in the situation of spending a couple of hundred
dollars, and very little time - to get back several thousand dollars.


Regards,
Tom.

Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

DD

David Duxbury

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 10:44 AM

Well thanks to you who sent back positive input, I am aware of the
shortcomings of MDF and I do know how to paint, seeing the original
doors are covered with some for of plastic Vinyl or whatever it is just
maybe somebody has seen a product that would do the job, I post here for
sound infomation if possible, and dont need sad comments from others.
Thanks D Duxbury

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 12:55 AM

On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:47:58 -0500, David Duxbury <[email protected]>
wrote:

>OH Leon I would never had thought to use paint how smart you are, thanks
>for nothing.

I'd paint 'em too. Paint is tough, moisture resistant, and best of
all, it covers up the MDF.

A nice, hand rubbed shellac or varnish finish on MDF is still uglier
than a sack of a-holes.

No need to thank me.

Barry

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 11:23 PM

I guess slab sided doors of MDF would be about as cheap as you can get. But
for not a lot more you can get factory doors at the borg made of actual
honest to budda wood. Might help you sell the castle too.

--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com


"David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is there a good steam proof, water resistant finish I could use on MDF,
> I have plastic coated doors on my kitchen cabinets they dont stand up to
> steam very well, I know you say use hardwood, I will be selling the
> house shortly and dont want to put out much money thanks.
> Dave
>

DD

David Duxbury

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 3:58 PM


I thought I had left this kind of negative speech behind in RV travel
like they don't stick to the what the posting site is meant to be used
for, the same here from some.

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 7:06 PM

ok, Hoyt! Glad to see a post from a man with a sense of
humor! <g>

dave

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>
>>LOL! that's a good one, coming from YOU, Hoyt! Humble you
>>ain't!
>>
>>dave
>>
>>Hoyt Weathers wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Some genuine humbleness from you might go a long way to improve your
>>>positive/negative reply ratio.
>>>
>>>
>
>
> I never claimed to be humble BAD, just good-looking. [grin]
>
> Hoyt W.
>
>

ML

"Mark L."

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 10:10 PM

Umm, steam proof and water resistant....? Paint sure fits the bill if
you ask me. Mark L

Leon wrote:

> "David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>OH Leon I would never had thought to use paint how smart you are, thanks
>>for nothing.
>
>
>
>
> I was dead serious.
>
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 4:17 PM

LOL! that's a good one, coming from YOU, Hoyt! Humble you
ain't!

dave

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

>
> Some genuine humbleness from you might go a long way to improve your
> positive/negative reply ratio.
>
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 12:41 AM

Paint.

"David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is there a good steam proof, water resistant finish I could use on MDF,
> I have plastic coated doors on my kitchen cabinets they dont stand up to
> steam very well, I know you say use hardwood, I will be selling the
> house shortly and dont want to put out much money thanks.
> Dave
>
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 1:26 AM

paint. (you aren't welcome) LOL!

dave

David Duxbury wrote:

> Is there a good steam proof, water resistant finish I could use on MDF,
> I have plastic coated doors on my kitchen cabinets they dont stand up to
> steam very well, I know you say use hardwood, I will be selling the
> house shortly and dont want to put out much money thanks.
> Dave
>

DD

David Duxbury

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

18/05/2004 8:47 PM

OH Leon I would never had thought to use paint how smart you are, thanks
for nothing.

Leon wrote:

> Paint.
>
> "David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Is there a good steam proof, water resistant finish I could use on MDF,
>>I have plastic coated doors on my kitchen cabinets they dont stand up to
>>steam very well, I know you say use hardwood, I will be selling the
>>house shortly and dont want to put out much money thanks.
>> Dave
>>
>>
>
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 2:17 AM


"David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> OH Leon I would never had thought to use paint how smart you are, thanks
> for nothing.
>

Leon does have a very creative mind though and comes up with these great
ideas on short notice. I think he'd do well on one of them Designer TV
shows.

hH

[email protected] (Henry E Schaffer)

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 1:22 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Pounds on Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>I guess slab sided doors of MDF would be about as cheap as you can get. But
>for not a lot more you can get factory doors at the borg made of actual
>honest to budda wood. Might help you sell the castle too.

What about weight considerations? Or would the MDF be quite thin?
--
--henry schaffer
hes _AT_ ncsu _DOT_ edu

RC

Richard Cline

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

18/05/2004 10:48 PM


When I moved to my present house the kitchen cabinet doors were made of
fir plywood. I xuxpect that they were intially painted but then someone
had removed the paint and tried to stain the plywood. Not only that but
the grain on the plywood ran different directions on different doors.

It did not take long to eliminate the plywood doors and replace them
with raised paner doors of oak.

Dick

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

18/05/2004 9:12 PM

Short of the two part epoxy one finds on bars and restaurant tables no
finish, including paint, will stop moisture infiltration. If they could wood
movement wouldn't be the trouble it is for woodworkers. Unfortunately they
can't and it is.

If you're selling soon your best bet is not to make steam and don't spray
hoses around the kitchen..

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is there a good steam proof, water resistant finish I could use on MDF,
> I have plastic coated doors on my kitchen cabinets they dont stand up to
> steam very well, I know you say use hardwood, I will be selling the
> house shortly and dont want to put out much money thanks.
> Dave
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 9:22 PM

the only way that will happen is if all the miscreant's
keyboards belly up. (and mine too! <g> )

dave

David Duxbury wrote:

>
> I thought I had left this kind of negative speech behind in RV travel
> like they don't stick to the what the posting site is meant to be used
> for, the same here from some.
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 12:50 AM


"David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OH Leon I would never had thought to use paint how smart you are, thanks
> for nothing.



I was dead serious.

md

"mttt"

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

19/05/2004 7:31 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> "David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > OH Leon I would never had thought to use paint how smart you are, thanks
> > for nothing.
>
>
>
> I was dead serious.

Damn - that was going to be my suggestion too.

Wn

Wally

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

18/05/2004 9:13 PM

You can put some oil based paint or use polyurethane. It's probably
your best bet.

Wally


On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:29:53 -0500, David Duxbury <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Is there a good steam proof, water resistant finish I could use on MDF,
>I have plastic coated doors on my kitchen cabinets they dont stand up to
>steam very well, I know you say use hardwood, I will be selling the
>house shortly and dont want to put out much money thanks.
> Dave

b

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

20/05/2004 9:01 PM

On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:58:39 -0500, David Duxbury <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>I thought I had left this kind of negative speech behind in RV travel
>like they don't stick to the what the posting site is meant to be used
>for, the same here from some.



yup.

welcome to the wreck.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to David Duxbury on 18/05/2004 8:29 PM

21/05/2004 12:18 AM


"David Duxbury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I thought I had left this kind of negative speech behind in RV travel
> like they don't stick to the what the posting site is meant to be used
> for, the same here from some.
>

I apologize for my friend's poor judgment posting here. They are often like
that, most every one of them. Except for me, of course, I really do try to
be respectful and act in a dignified manner at all times, but those other
guys just won't listen. I'm going to ask them again to knock it off and
treat everyone with the respect they deserve. Again, sorry for the attitude
of my fellow woodworkers.


Hey guys, KNOCK IT OFF ! ! !

See, I told you I'd tell them.
Your friend always,
Ed

P. S. Good luck at getting 4 MPG in your RV.


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