"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:45:00 GMT, [email protected] (Dan
> Valleskey) wrote:
>
> >
> >If I am not mistaken, you can even dump some watco Danish oil in too.
>
> Why?
That's how I do it and my reason is "I like watco". It gives it a richer
finish with the durability of the poly. IHMHO of course. I believe Sam
Maloof makes his own blend of oil and poly finish. Haven't tried it yet but
I may do it to see how it stands up to mine ;-)
SH
"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message news:vrlNb.52487$Rc4.203934@attbi_s54...
> What ratio of poly:oil:thinner do you use?
It's not really a science for me but I start out with 1/3,1/3/,1/3. Then I
usually tune it up to the consistancy I want. If it is too runny, add some
poly. If too thick, add some mineral spirits. Make up small amounts (the
amount you will use). Shelf life isn't very long I suspect because of the
poly.
SH
Yes I'm sure.
Varnish itself is made up of oil (preferably tung but these days who knows),
a thinner/carrier (mineral spirits or maybe some proprietary brew) and
resins (used to be things like rosin or amber but now are man made, read
that plastic) all cooked up together.
Wiping varnish is just a varnish that has been thinned enough to make it
suitable for wiping but still thick enough to build..
Danish oil is a varnish with a very high oil to resin mix that has been
thinned (hence the mineral spirits) enough so it soaks into the wood rather
then building.
Those are basic make ups, there are probably other odds and ends added that
probably vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.
That help?
Take care.
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message news:rzSNb.67625$sv6.145666@attbi_s52...
> Are you sure Danish oil contains mineral spirits (thinned)? I thought it
> was just varnish and oil.
>
>
>
> "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Varnish thinned = wiping varnish
> >
> > Varnish thinned + oil = Danish oil
> >
> > --
> > Mike G.
> > [email protected]
> > Heirloom Woods
> > www.heirloom-woods.net
> > "B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]>
> wrote
> > in message news:[email protected]...
> > > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:55:19 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Three ingredients mixed 50:50. New math?
> > >
> > > I missed the oil? <G>
> > >
> > > I don't use any oil in wiping poly, but plan on giving it a test to
> > > see if I'm missing something.
> > >
> > > Barry
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
That's it....it's that easy.
Good luck
Rob
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"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message news:HJ2Nb.46276$5V2.64072@attbi_s53...
> Does anyone know what wipe-on poly is? I googled and some say that they
use
> 50:50 poly:mineral spirits as a wipe-on poly. Is that all this stuff is
or
> is there more to it?
>
>
If I am not mistaken, you can even dump some watco Danish oil in too.
-Dan V.
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 03:30:47 GMT, "stoutman" <.@.> wrote:
>Does anyone know what wipe-on poly is? I googled and some say that they use
>50:50 poly:mineral spirits as a wipe-on poly. Is that all this stuff is or
>is there more to it?
>
>
Thanks. I need to try a danish oil sometime.
"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes I'm sure.
>
> Varnish itself is made up of oil (preferably tung but these days who
knows),
> a thinner/carrier (mineral spirits or maybe some proprietary brew) and
> resins (used to be things like rosin or amber but now are man made, read
> that plastic) all cooked up together.
>
> Wiping varnish is just a varnish that has been thinned enough to make it
> suitable for wiping but still thick enough to build..
>
> Danish oil is a varnish with a very high oil to resin mix that has been
> thinned (hence the mineral spirits) enough so it soaks into the wood
rather
> then building.
>
> Those are basic make ups, there are probably other odds and ends added
that
> probably vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.
>
> That help?
> Take care.
>
> --
> Mike G.
> [email protected]
> Heirloom Woods
> www.heirloom-woods.net
> "stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message news:rzSNb.67625$sv6.145666@attbi_s52...
> > Are you sure Danish oil contains mineral spirits (thinned)? I thought
it
> > was just varnish and oil.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Varnish thinned = wiping varnish
> > >
> > > Varnish thinned + oil = Danish oil
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike G.
> > > [email protected]
> > > Heirloom Woods
> > > www.heirloom-woods.net
> > > "B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]>
> > wrote
> > > in message news:[email protected]...
> > > > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:55:19 -0800, "CW"
<[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Three ingredients mixed 50:50. New math?
> > > >
> > > > I missed the oil? <G>
> > > >
> > > > I don't use any oil in wiping poly, but plan on giving it a test to
> > > > see if I'm missing something.
> > > >
> > > > Barry
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Three ingredients mixed 50:50. New math?
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:48:27 GMT, "stoutman" <.@.> wrote:
>
> >What ratio of poly:oil:thinner do you use?
>
> 50-50
>
> Barry
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 03:30:47 GMT, "stoutman" <.@.> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know what wipe-on poly is? I googled and some say that they
use
> >50:50 poly:mineral spirits as a wipe-on poly. Is that all this stuff is
or
> >is there more to it?
> >
>
> It works for me whenever I need wiping poly.
>
> Barry
they sell wipe on poly and it works ,drys fast too
minwax
watco
and there are others
I mix wipe on poly with danish oil and a natural sealer stain and it looks
real nice
as soon as my pictures come back from walmart I will post some
Varnish thinned = wiping varnish
Varnish thinned + oil = Danish oil
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:55:19 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Three ingredients mixed 50:50. New math?
>
> I missed the oil? <G>
>
> I don't use any oil in wiping poly, but plan on giving it a test to
> see if I'm missing something.
>
> Barry
>
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Three ingredients mixed 50:50. New math?
>
> "B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]>
wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:48:27 GMT, "stoutman" <.@.> wrote:
> >
> > >What ratio of poly:oil:thinner do you use?
> >
> > 50-50
> >
> > Barry
>
I read is some book to use 50:25:25; but haven't tried it.
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:55:19 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Three ingredients mixed 50:50. New math?
I missed the oil? <G>
I don't use any oil in wiping poly, but plan on giving it a test to
see if I'm missing something.
Barry
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:18:50 GMT, "jeffk" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I mix wipe on poly with danish oil and a natural sealer stain and it looks
>real nice
>as soon as my pictures come back from walmart I will post some
I'd like to see them!
I make my own "wiping poly", simply because it's much cheaper that
buying the prethinned stuff.
Barry
Are you sure Danish oil contains mineral spirits (thinned)? I thought it
was just varnish and oil.
"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Varnish thinned = wiping varnish
>
> Varnish thinned + oil = Danish oil
>
> --
> Mike G.
> [email protected]
> Heirloom Woods
> www.heirloom-woods.net
> "B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]>
wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
> > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:55:19 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Three ingredients mixed 50:50. New math?
> >
> > I missed the oil? <G>
> >
> > I don't use any oil in wiping poly, but plan on giving it a test to
> > see if I'm missing something.
> >
> > Barry
> >
>
>
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:45:00 GMT, [email protected] (Dan
Valleskey) wrote:
>
>If I am not mistaken, you can even dump some watco Danish oil in too.
Why?
Barry
What ratio of poly:oil:thinner do you use?
"Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]>
wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:45:00 GMT, [email protected] (Dan
> > Valleskey) wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >If I am not mistaken, you can even dump some watco Danish oil in too.
> >
> > Why?
>
> That's how I do it and my reason is "I like watco". It gives it a richer
> finish with the durability of the poly. IHMHO of course. I believe Sam
> Maloof makes his own blend of oil and poly finish. Haven't tried it yet
but
> I may do it to see how it stands up to mine ;-)
> SH
>
>
Glad I could help.
A good starting mix and the one generally used is a 1/3 oil, 1/3 varnish 1/3
thinner.
However, by varying the ratio's you can vary the properties of the finish.
More thinner means better penetration but more coats to reach a nice luster,
also a faster cure, more varnish means more protection, more oil means a
faster build to a nice luster but slower cure time, etc.
Don't be afraid to play with the ratio's, there isn't any right one. Feel
free to vary and experiment and find one you like.
Just remember a Danish oil finish is not one that is meant to build, it is
an oil finish meant to give the close to the wood, feel the grain, finish
that provides just a little more protection then straight oil. It is applied
the same way as any oil finish is. Wipe on, even flood the surface, let sit,
wipe off excess, let cure, repeat as necessary
Add enough coats of the stuff and you will eventually get a build and a
surface finish of sorts but it is the long way around the mulberry bush and,
with the high oil content, the end product will be relatively soft and low
on the protection scale.
Good luck
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message news:4cUNb.67784$Rc4.227116@attbi_s54...
> Thanks. I need to try a danish oil sometime.
>
>
> "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Yes I'm sure.
> >
> > Varnish itself is made up of oil (preferably tung but these days who
> knows),
> > a thinner/carrier (mineral spirits or maybe some proprietary brew) and
> > resins (used to be things like rosin or amber but now are man made, read
> > that plastic) all cooked up together.
> >
> > Wiping varnish is just a varnish that has been thinned enough to make it
> > suitable for wiping but still thick enough to build..
> >
> > Danish oil is a varnish with a very high oil to resin mix that has been
> > thinned (hence the mineral spirits) enough so it soaks into the wood
> rather
> > then building.
> >
> > Those are basic make ups, there are probably other odds and ends added
> that
> > probably vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.
> >
> > That help?
> > Take care.
> >
> > --
> > Mike G.
> > [email protected]
> > Heirloom Woods
> > www.heirloom-woods.net
> > "stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:rzSNb.67625$sv6.145666@attbi_s52...
> > > Are you sure Danish oil contains mineral spirits (thinned)? I thought
> it
> > > was just varnish and oil.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Varnish thinned = wiping varnish
> > > >
> > > > Varnish thinned + oil = Danish oil
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mike G.
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > Heirloom Woods
> > > > www.heirloom-woods.net
> > > > "B a r r y B u r k e J r ."
<[email protected]>
> > > wrote
> > > > in message news:[email protected]...
> > > > > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 00:55:19 -0800, "CW"
> <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Three ingredients mixed 50:50. New math?
> > > > >
> > > > > I missed the oil? <G>
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't use any oil in wiping poly, but plan on giving it a test
to
> > > > > see if I'm missing something.
> > > > >
> > > > > Barry
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>