Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

14/02/2004 10:43 PM

Stupid pet tricks


Fellow 'wreck'ers.

I thought I'd share a serious mistake I made this week.. Feel free to
laugh!

I built a birch built-in bookcase for a friend. This particular piece
is birch ply with solid birch trim, nice flutes, etc... It really
came out nice! The wife of the recipient wants a color similar to
really old, dark cherry, with a just a touch of an extra tint towards
red. She was thrilled with my sample boards, finished with Mohawk
(Behlen) products.

We all know how birch is a bear in regard to blotching, so I carefully
spit coated the bookcase with 50/50 Seal Coat. The first treatment of
pigment stain came out HORRIBLE, GROSS, not suitable for a trailer
park! All kinds of blotching and generally UGLY! The thing looked
like a really bad, Dark Walnut, pineywood, polyshaded mess!

I retested my finishing schedule using scraps from the ugly piece, and
my new samples came out just like the original samples, beautiful!

What happened? My spit coat container and my spit coat brush cleaning
containers got switched. I spit coated with shellac colored alcohol!

I spent all today building another. <G>

I'm now trying to find a home for a painted version of the same piece.

Barry


This topic has 8 replies

LL

Lazarus Long

in reply to B a r r y B u r k e J r . on 14/02/2004 10:43 PM

15/02/2004 4:29 PM

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 23:08:13 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:


>
>I'm terrible about labeling jars.


Labeling jars? Who does that? ;)

Nn

Nova

in reply to B a r r y B u r k e J r . on 14/02/2004 10:43 PM

14/02/2004 9:39 PM

Oregon wrote:

> Opportunity for me to learn something: Please define "spit coat".

A "spit coat" is a dilute mixture of clear dewaxed shellac usually in
a 1 to 1.5 lb. cut. A 1 lb. cut being one pound of shellac dissolved
in one gallon of alcohol.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

JB

"J.B. Bobbitt"

in reply to B a r r y B u r k e J r . on 14/02/2004 10:43 PM

15/02/2004 12:07 AM

That'd be a "stupid human trick". Letterman has had both on his show.

Not that I'm critical; I'm perfectly capable of such tricks on my own.

-JBB

"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
>
> Fellow 'wreck'ers.
>
> I thought I'd share a serious mistake I made this week.. Feel free to
> laugh!
>
> I built a birch built-in bookcase for a friend. This particular piece
> is birch ply with solid birch trim, nice flutes, etc... It really
> came out nice! The wife of the recipient wants a color similar to
> really old, dark cherry, with a just a touch of an extra tint towards
> red. She was thrilled with my sample boards, finished with Mohawk
> (Behlen) products.
>
> We all know how birch is a bear in regard to blotching, so I carefully
> spit coated the bookcase with 50/50 Seal Coat. The first treatment of
> pigment stain came out HORRIBLE, GROSS, not suitable for a trailer
> park! All kinds of blotching and generally UGLY! The thing looked
> like a really bad, Dark Walnut, pineywood, polyshaded mess!
>
> I retested my finishing schedule using scraps from the ugly piece, and
> my new samples came out just like the original samples, beautiful!
>
> What happened? My spit coat container and my spit coat brush cleaning
> containers got switched. I spit coated with shellac colored alcohol!
>
> I spent all today building another. <G>
>
> I'm now trying to find a home for a painted version of the same piece.
>
> Barry
>
>

On

"Oregon"

in reply to B a r r y B u r k e J r . on 14/02/2004 10:43 PM

15/02/2004 2:02 AM

Opportunity for me to learn something: Please define "spit coat".
O.

JG

"Jerry Gilreath"

in reply to B a r r y B u r k e J r . on 14/02/2004 10:43 PM

15/02/2004 12:03 AM

Whew, I thought I was the only one that done that kind of thing. Pretty much
happened to me with a pair of nightstands for my nephew and new niece
(in-law?)

--
"Cartoons don't have any deep meaning.
They're just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh."
Homer Simpson
Jerry© The Phoneman®
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
>
> Fellow 'wreck'ers.
>
> I thought I'd share a serious mistake I made this week.. Feel free to
> laugh!
>
> I built a birch built-in bookcase for a friend. This particular piece
> is birch ply with solid birch trim, nice flutes, etc... It really
> came out nice! The wife of the recipient wants a color similar to
> really old, dark cherry, with a just a touch of an extra tint towards
> red. She was thrilled with my sample boards, finished with Mohawk
> (Behlen) products.
>
> We all know how birch is a bear in regard to blotching, so I carefully
> spit coated the bookcase with 50/50 Seal Coat. The first treatment of
> pigment stain came out HORRIBLE, GROSS, not suitable for a trailer
> park! All kinds of blotching and generally UGLY! The thing looked
> like a really bad, Dark Walnut, pineywood, polyshaded mess!
>
> I retested my finishing schedule using scraps from the ugly piece, and
> my new samples came out just like the original samples, beautiful!
>
> What happened? My spit coat container and my spit coat brush cleaning
> containers got switched. I spit coated with shellac colored alcohol!
>
> I spent all today building another. <G>
>
> I'm now trying to find a home for a painted version of the same piece.
>
> Barry
>
>

AD

"Anthony Diodati"

in reply to B a r r y B u r k e J r . on 14/02/2004 10:43 PM

14/02/2004 11:04 PM

Sometimes called a "wash coat" I believe.
Tony D.
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Oregon wrote:
>
> > Opportunity for me to learn something: Please define "spit coat".
>
> A "spit coat" is a dilute mixture of clear dewaxed shellac usually in
> a 1 to 1.5 lb. cut. A 1 lb. cut being one pound of shellac dissolved
> in one gallon of alcohol.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to B a r r y B u r k e J r . on 14/02/2004 10:43 PM

15/02/2004 12:55 PM

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:02:10 GMT, "Oregon" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Opportunity for me to learn something: Please define "spit coat".
>O.
>


AKA a wash coat.

It's a thin pre-coat of shellac, or sometimes sanding sealer, used to
prevent stain from over penetrating certain woods, and to prevent one
layer of finish with interacting with the next.

Dewaxed shellac is a universal barrier. Spit coating can often even
allow you to reverse a finishing step, if necessary.

Birch, cherry, and pine are popular woods that take stain terribly if
nothing is used to control the penetration. Some use Turpentine,
Pre-stain Conditioner, or other commercial products. I prefer a
simple thin shellac coat between each color coat.

Make sense?
Barry

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to B a r r y B u r k e J r . on 14/02/2004 10:43 PM

14/02/2004 11:08 PM

B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
> Fellow 'wreck'ers.
>
> I thought I'd share a serious mistake I made this week.. Feel free to
> laugh!
> What happened? My spit coat container and my spit coat brush cleaning
> containers got switched. I spit coated with shellac colored alcohol!

No laughs from me. I'm terrible about labeling jars. I grabbed the wrong one
a couple of times but so far have not made a "fatal" error. If I don't wise
up, it will happen.

Bet it brushed on easy though ;)
--
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


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