Hi,
I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home that
has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.
I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap :wink:
) price.
Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
with? What has been your experiences?
Thanks in advance.
Junior
Hi Junior,
Nice size shop you got there!
I think that I would use the slot wall wherever I could.
If that's too expensive, many woodworkers use 3/4
plywood screwed to joists and then paint it a light color
for good reflectance. With plywood, you can hang anything
you want anywhere you want it. You can also build off of it
so that you can make dedicated "stations" around the shop
for sharpening and the like. This is what I would like to do
on my next shop "remodel".
Right now I have about 20 feet of pegboard over my
workbench etc. I curse that stuff every time I reach
for something since usually the hook will come down
with it - and sometimes another tool or two. Stay away
from it, but if you insist on it, at least get the
heavy duty board & fasteners.
HTH
Lou
In article <[email protected]>, Junior
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home that
> has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
> like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.
>
> I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
> and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap :wink:
> ) price.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
> with? What has been your experiences?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Junior
>
You may want to give more detail on what your dealing with for
meaningful feedback.
You have an enviable problem that I would wade into it with a degree of
pause and deliberation. Not sure what your background is, but if you
plan on getting into woodworking, I would do a fair amount of planning
and reading before rushing to finish it. Electrical, plumbing, HVAC,
dust extration, tool placement, lighting - are just a few
considerations. Several books and articles detail the ideal shop or at
the very least give you a grocery list of things needing consideration.
Read, read, read.
Walls? Pick something light in color. Nice to have some reflection.
I've been in shops with tongue/groove dark wood and they feel like
caves.
Good luck - I wish I had the same problem to deal with.
KB
Clint wrote:
> Well, I don't know about a suggestion, but my thought for my shop
walls is a
> bottom row of drywall around the shop (so it's 4' high), then one row
of
> slot-wall, then drywall on top. There will be a bit of a funky
transition
> between the 3/4" slotwall and the drywall, and I'm not sure if it's
> generally acceptable to lay the drywall horizontally rather than
vertically,
> but what the hell, it's my shop, right? :) The slotwall will be
> considerably more expensive than the drywall, at around $45/sheet up
here in
> Canada. But I've got one piece of it already up on my wall, and it's
mucho
> handier than pegboard, in my opinion.
>
> Clint
>
> "Junior" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home
that
> > has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
> > like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.
> >
> > I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
> > and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap
:wink:
> > ) price.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
> > with? What has been your experiences?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
I like the slotwall idea best, holds everything from small tools to
moveable cabinets (with the proper cleats on the back) making your
whole shop reconfigurable, and you WILL reconfigure your shop at some
point to accomodate new toys, er... tools.
With a little patience and perserverence, and if you live in or near a
city, you can get the board cheap or free by watching local strip malls
and store fronts for businesses that are folding or are for lease. The
owners of these buildings frequently remove this stuff for the new
tenant.
I used 1/4 inch hardboard, the kind that's painted white. They make a
plastic transition strip to insert between panels. Cheap. Quick.
Easy. No painting.
I'd recommend attaching 2x material between studs with the wide side
flush with the surface of the joists. Run this backing material all
the way around your shop for hanging cabinets on.
Steve
"Junior" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home that
> has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
> like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.
>
> I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
> and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap :wink:
> ) price.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
> with? What has been your experiences?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Junior
>
Faced with the same job a couple of years ago, I chose T-8 siding. I used
the 5/8" thick stuff, with the grooves vertical. I chose to not paint it or
finish it, although some would like a white paint to better reflect light.
I find it light enough with the mill finish.
Pro's: Looks better than plywood or OSB. Hang anything anywhere with
screws. Removing screws leaves an almost invisible hole compared to smooth
sanded plywood. Easy to hang. No taping or mud. Relatively easy to remove
a panel for reworking utilities.
Con's: More expensive than plywood (not much) or drywall (a lot). Can give
you splinters if you are careless. Off gassing may bother you for a few
months (smelled great to me, but YMMV).
You can see glimpses of it below.
--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com
In article <020520051737069477%[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> Right now I have about 20 feet of pegboard over my
> workbench etc. I curse that stuff every time I reach
> for something since usually the hook will come down
> with it - and sometimes another tool or two.
>
I don't remember where I got them, but I have some clips that attach to
the pegboard hooks so they can't come out. But the clip (2-part) can be
separated and reused so the hook can be taken down if necessary. Solved
my pegboard problems.
--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description
Joe Brophy wrote:
> I have gotten good results using OSB (oriented strand board, 7/16" I think) as a more
> durable substitute for normal drywall. I used foam board underneath that and sealed the
> seams of the OSB with the "great stuff" foam spray, followed by trimming it level with the
> OSB surface after curing, then used the mesh drywall tape and finished the seams and
> surface as necessary like drywall. Then followed up with pva primer and satin finish of
> whatever color suits your taste.
>
> The foam board insulation gives the highest r-value per inch thickness and the OSB doesn't
> puncture or dent as easily as drywall, yet is just slightly more in cost. My electrical
> are conduit on the surface of the OSB as is the air plumbing. Has worked well for me.
A caution here, in many jurisdictions it is a requirement that "foam
board insulation" or similar must be covered with non-flamable material.
I doubt the OSB over foam board would satisfy that requirement.
Ed
That's where I got my one-piece from (as mentioned in the bottom of the
posting). Business next door to our office was renovating, so I picked it
up for the cost of my labour (which isn't much :)). But that's kind of a
hit-and-miss approach.
Clint
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Clint wrote:
> > Well, I don't know about a suggestion, but my thought for my shop
> walls is a
> > bottom row of drywall around the shop (so it's 4' high), then one row
> of
> > slot-wall, then drywall on top. There will be a bit of a funky
> transition
> > between the 3/4" slotwall and the drywall, and I'm not sure if it's
> > generally acceptable to lay the drywall horizontally rather than
> vertically,
> > but what the hell, it's my shop, right? :) The slotwall will be
> > considerably more expensive than the drywall, at around $45/sheet up
> here in
> > Canada. But I've got one piece of it already up on my wall, and it's
> mucho
> > handier than pegboard, in my opinion.
> >
> > Clint
> >
> > "Junior" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home
> that
> > > has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
> > > like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.
> > >
> > > I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
> > > and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap
> :wink:
> > > ) price.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
> > > with? What has been your experiences?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
>
>
> I like the slotwall idea best, holds everything from small tools to
> moveable cabinets (with the proper cleats on the back) making your
> whole shop reconfigurable, and you WILL reconfigure your shop at some
> point to accomodate new toys, er... tools.
> With a little patience and perserverence, and if you live in or near a
> city, you can get the board cheap or free by watching local strip malls
> and store fronts for businesses that are folding or are for lease. The
> owners of these buildings frequently remove this stuff for the new
> tenant.
>
Well, I don't know about a suggestion, but my thought for my shop walls is a
bottom row of drywall around the shop (so it's 4' high), then one row of
slot-wall, then drywall on top. There will be a bit of a funky transition
between the 3/4" slotwall and the drywall, and I'm not sure if it's
generally acceptable to lay the drywall horizontally rather than vertically,
but what the hell, it's my shop, right? :) The slotwall will be
considerably more expensive than the drywall, at around $45/sheet up here in
Canada. But I've got one piece of it already up on my wall, and it's mucho
handier than pegboard, in my opinion.
Clint
"Junior" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home that
> has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
> like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.
>
> I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
> and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap :wink:
> ) price.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
> with? What has been your experiences?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Junior
>
I'm going to buck the trend here.
Sheetrock, painted white. Mark the stud locations on the floor, or use some
other method to make them easy to find later.
You stated 2 criteria: inexpensive and attractive.... you will not find a
cheaper surface than $8 a sheet. It will make you "feel" better hanging out
in a finished space. IMNSHO plywood or OSB looks cobbled together at best.
There is alot of attention given to attaching things to walls. You can burry
some 1-by material at the eye-level or so behind the sheetrock for a
screwing surface.
I'm not a big fan of pegboard. I have some, but I think cabinets are a nicer
solution. Defiinitely go with prefinished white.
-Steve
"Junior" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home that
> has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
> like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.
>
> I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
> and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap :wink:
> ) price.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
> with? What has been your experiences?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Junior
>
>
> Right now I have about 20 feet of pegboard over my
> workbench etc. I curse that stuff every time I reach
> for something since usually the hook will come down
> with it - and sometimes another tool or two. Stay away
> from it, but if you insist on it, at least get the
> heavy duty board & fasteners.
Lou,
If your peg locations are fairly static, a dab of hot-melt glue will hold
those pegs in place. It will probably tear a little bit but you can pull
them out when you need to without much effort.
-Steve
For inexpensive it's hard to beat quarter inch pegboard, painted white
or prefinished white from the HD. Lets you hang stuff anywhere an dit's
pretty tough. Only problem is that lately I've been unable to find
decent hangers, only cheesy ones that don't stay in place well.
Slotboard is great if you can pick it up cheap somewhere. It's pretty
pricey new.
Roger
Junior wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home that
> has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
> like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.
>
> I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
> and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap :wink:
> ) price.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
> with? What has been your experiences?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Junior
>
On Mon, 02 May 2005 17:32:14 -0400, Roger wrote:
> pretty tough. Only problem is that lately I've been unable to find
> decent hangers, only cheesy ones that don't stay in place well.
A roll of heavy-gauge soft iron wire is cheap. I've been making my own
hooks recently, custom bent to the tool. Coathanger wire works too. I
hotglue the coathanger-wire hooks to the pegboard. They stay put, but can
still be pried out. The hot glue works better than those little plastic
clips for holding hooks in place.
Someone with brazing capability could take the soft iron to new heights of
utility.
--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com
On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:14:02 -0400, Stephen M wrote:
> I'm going to buck the trend here.
>
> Sheetrock, painted white. Mark the stud locations on the floor, or use some
> other method to make them easy to find later.
>
> You stated 2 criteria: inexpensive and attractive.... you will not find a
> cheaper surface than $8 a sheet. It will make you "feel" better hanging out
> in a finished space. IMNSHO plywood or OSB looks cobbled together at best.
>
> There is alot of attention given to attaching things to walls. You can burry
> some 1-by material at the eye-level or so behind the sheetrock for a
> screwing surface.
>
> I'm not a big fan of pegboard. I have some, but I think cabinets are a nicer
> solution. Defiinitely go with prefinished white.
>
> -Steve
>
> "Junior" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home that
>> has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
>> like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.
>>
>> I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
>> and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap :wink:
>> ) price.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
>> with? What has been your experiences?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Junior
>>
I agree. Sheetrock painted white. Mark stud locations.
And then install french cleats at 40 and 80 inches all
around the shop. I've got a cleat system installed and
made custom fixtures to hang clamps, cabinets, and large
portable tools. It works great. and looks good too.
DGA
I have gotten good results using OSB (oriented strand board, 7/16" I =
think) as a more
durable substitute for normal drywall. I used foam board underneath that=
and sealed the
seams of the OSB with the "great stuff" foam spray, followed by trimming =
it level with the
OSB surface after curing, then used the mesh drywall tape and finished =
the seams and
surface as necessary like drywall. Then followed up with pva primer and =
satin finish of
whatever color suits your taste.
The foam board insulation gives the highest r-value per inch thickness =
and the OSB doesn't
puncture or dent as easily as drywall, yet is just slightly more in cost.=
My electrical
are conduit on the surface of the OSB as is the air plumbing. Has worked=
well for me.
On Mon, 02 May 2005 17:57:32 +0000, =
[email protected] (Junior)
wrote:
>Hi,=20
>
>I am new to this forum (1st post). I recently purchased a home that
>has a 22' x 24' workshop. The workshop is great as is, but I would
>like to insulate it and put up some type of wall panels.=20
>
>I would like wall panels that are suitable for workshop application
>and not harsh on the eyes for a reasonable (that means cheap :wink:
>) price.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of wall panel to go
>with? What has been your experiences?
>
>Thanks in advance.=20
>
>Junior
Joe Brophy
CountryTech Computer
email: [email protected]