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[email protected] (Stan Graves)

30/01/2004 12:23 PM

Gage Blocks for Woodworking?

Hi all,

I'm setting up my woodshop, and I hope (with SWMBO's advice and
consent) to have several of new tools that need to be calibrated.

I have a dial indicator (with a clamp, not a mag base), and a couple
pairs of calipers that are more accurate that I am.

I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
jigs?

Thanks in advance.

--Stan Graves
[email protected]
http://www.SoundInMotionDJ.com


This topic has 16 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 11:27 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Stan
Graves <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> jigs?

I have the Lee Valley set and use it a lot on the router table and
table saw.

djb

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JD

"James D Kountz"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 5:09 PM

Also being a huge advocate of shop built vs. store bought I have this to
offer. You can make your own gauge blocks using some good plywood, some thin
brass strips and a caliper or some other precision measuring device. For
example: for a one inch bar I measured the brass thickness multiplied it by
2, then subtracted this from an inch. I then cut a small block of plywood a
tiny bit heavier than this measurement. I attached a thin brass strip to
both sides using countersunk flat head wood screws and took a measurement.
If its too fat which it should be, take one brass plate off and work the
wood over a piece of fine sandpaper and some plate glass. (or any true flat
surface) replace the brass and measure again. Work it down until the
measurement is exactly one inch. Now you have a nice true gauge block of any
width you want. I do check them from time to time to make sure the weather
hasn't affected them but I keep them in a nice sealed box and being plywood
they stay reasonable true to size especially if you don't leave them laying
around. Hope this helps some.

Jim


"Cape Cod Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 30 Jan 2004 12:23:59 -0800, [email protected] (Stan Graves)
> >I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> >dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> >jigs?
>
> Rather than buy the expensive block sets sold by Lee Valley and
> others, check out key stock at any decent hardware store, including
> the BORGs. They come in several "common" sizes. Look and act like
> the blocks used for router setup, but cost only a dollar or two each.

Gs

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

30/01/2004 7:10 PM

I bought some and use them all the time. Got my big kid a set for
Christmas. I'm told the fingers can detect down to the thousandths of an
inch difference, so they're ideal. Get the tapered scale to complete your
measuring needs.

Advantage to LV over the Router Workshop setup bars - the 1/2/3 block,
which is great for square, too.

Disadvantage, storage in the box is a bit inconvenient and fumbly compared
to bars on a ring.


"JohnV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:IjBSb.344253$ts4.192501@pd7tw3no...
> I don't have them either but Lee Valley has a set that I drool over once
in
> a while.
>
> John V
>
>
> "Stan Graves" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm setting up my woodshop, and I hope (with SWMBO's advice and
> > consent) to have several of new tools that need to be calibrated.
> >
> > I have a dial indicator (with a clamp, not a mag base), and a couple
> > pairs of calipers that are more accurate that I am.
> >
> > I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> > dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> > jigs?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --Stan Graves
> > [email protected]
> > http://www.SoundInMotionDJ.com
>
>

Sb

"SawEyes"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 10:08 AM


> I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> jigs?
>
> Thanks in advance.

Here is a great tool setting gauge from Veritas
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=30074&category=
1,240,41064


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Online Tool Reviews
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com
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[email protected] (Peter Wells)

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

01/02/2004 7:28 AM

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:28:38 GMT, "Eric Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:


>Also along those same lines make a set of "Roman Rulers" for a measuring
>device. It is many times superior for making repetitive cuts that you can't
>jig and only is two pieces of scrap wood.
>
Could you explain ? I've never come across these items, and a Google search provided me
with more information on the Roman Empire and the Book of Revelation than I'll ever need.




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CC

Cape Cod Bob

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 4:25 PM

On 31 Jan 2004 09:16:12 -0800, [email protected] (Alan W)
wrote:

>> Rather than buy the expensive block sets sold by Lee Valley and
>> others, check out key stock at any decent hardware store, including
>> the BORGs. They come in several "common" sizes. Look and act like
>> the blocks used for router setup, but cost only a dollar or two each.
>
>Which section of the BORG do they hide these little jewels? Were they
>near anything in particular?
>
>Thanks
>Alan

They are in the hardware department. A couple were in the
wall-mounted baggies. More sizes were in the individual pieces
drawers below the bagged items. Look for key stock.

They're used to hold wheels onto axles.

Jn

"JohnV"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

30/01/2004 10:57 PM

I don't have them either but Lee Valley has a set that I drool over once in
a while.

John V


"Stan Graves" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm setting up my woodshop, and I hope (with SWMBO's advice and
> consent) to have several of new tools that need to be calibrated.
>
> I have a dial indicator (with a clamp, not a mag base), and a couple
> pairs of calipers that are more accurate that I am.
>
> I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> jigs?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --Stan Graves
> [email protected]
> http://www.SoundInMotionDJ.com

JD

"James D Kountz"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

30/01/2004 8:56 PM

Ever watch The Router Workshop? Man those guys probably couldnt work without
their little brass set-up bars. They use them more than a rule or tape
measure. I like these things alot. I only a few but they serve me well for
common fence settings and such. Good investment in my opinion.

Jim


"Stan Graves" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm setting up my woodshop, and I hope (with SWMBO's advice and
> consent) to have several of new tools that need to be calibrated.
>
> I have a dial indicator (with a clamp, not a mag base), and a couple
> pairs of calipers that are more accurate that I am.
>
> I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> jigs?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --Stan Graves
> [email protected]
> http://www.SoundInMotionDJ.com

MB

"Mike"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 2:40 AM

Stan:

Gage blocks are real handy to have, use mine all the time. Get together with
a couple of buddies and buy some key stock from a machinist supply house and
make your own by cutting the stock to length. You can get almost any size up
to 3/4", maybe larger on special order.

Mike
"Stan Graves" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm setting up my woodshop, and I hope (with SWMBO's advice and
> consent) to have several of new tools that need to be calibrated.
>
> I have a dial indicator (with a clamp, not a mag base), and a couple
> pairs of calipers that are more accurate that I am.
>
> I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> jigs?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --Stan Graves
> [email protected]
> http://www.SoundInMotionDJ.com

Cc

"Charley"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

01/02/2004 3:31 PM

The Router Workshop guys have been at the wood shows over the past several
years, selling their router tables, jigs, and fixtures. Their company name
is Oak Park Industries or something like that. I did a quick search on
Google and got too many hits to be able to quickly find them so I leave that
part up to you.

I bought my set of "brass" gage blocks from them about 5 years ago for about
$12. They came as a set in a block of wood with rabbet grooves in it to hold
each one. They are the same as the ones that they use in their show and I
find that I'm using them almost as frequently as they do. I like the brass
because there's less chance of damaging a cutter edge when I'm doing setups.
Although steel key stock is probably easier to find at the local hardware
store or machine shop I would not be comfortable about hitting them against
the sharp edges of my cutting tools.

--
Charley


"Stan Graves" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm setting up my woodshop, and I hope (with SWMBO's advice and
> consent) to have several of new tools that need to be calibrated.
>
> I have a dial indicator (with a clamp, not a mag base), and a couple
> pairs of calipers that are more accurate that I am.
>
> I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> jigs?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --Stan Graves
> [email protected]
> http://www.SoundInMotionDJ.com

aA

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 9:16 AM

> Rather than buy the expensive block sets sold by Lee Valley and
> others, check out key stock at any decent hardware store, including
> the BORGs. They come in several "common" sizes. Look and act like
> the blocks used for router setup, but cost only a dollar or two each.

Which section of the BORG do they hide these little jewels? Were they
near anything in particular?

Thanks
Alan

EJ

"Eric Johnson"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 12:28 AM

You bet they are a great thing to have. Also some of the tools your going to
buy over time are going to have instructions for building your own to set
the tools up.
Also along those same lines make a set of "Roman Rulers" for a measuring
device. It is many times superior for making repetitive cuts that you can't
jig and only is two pieces of scrap wood.

"SawEyes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> > dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> > jigs?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> Here is a great tool setting gauge from Veritas
>
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=30074&category=
> 1,240,41064
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dean Bielanowski
> Editor,
> Online Tool Reviews
> http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Latest 5 Reviews:
> - Veritas Shelf Drilling Jig
> - Ryobi CID1802V 18v Cordless Drill
> - Workshop Essentials Under $30
> - Festool PS 300 Jigsaws
> - Delta Universal Tenoning Jig
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>

CC

Cape Cod Bob

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 1:53 AM

On 30 Jan 2004 12:23:59 -0800, [email protected] (Stan Graves)
>I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
>dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
>jigs?

Rather than buy the expensive block sets sold by Lee Valley and
others, check out key stock at any decent hardware store, including
the BORGs. They come in several "common" sizes. Look and act like
the blocks used for router setup, but cost only a dollar or two each.

m

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 1:03 PM

What is a "Roman Ruler"?


On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:28:38 GMT, "Eric Johnson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>You bet they are a great thing to have. Also some of the tools your going to
>buy over time are going to have instructions for building your own to set
>the tools up.
>Also along those same lines make a set of "Roman Rulers" for a measuring
>device. It is many times superior for making repetitive cuts that you can't
>jig and only is two pieces of scrap wood.
>
>"SawEyes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
>> > dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
>> > jigs?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Here is a great tool setting gauge from Veritas
>>
>http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=30074&category=
>> 1,240,41064
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dean Bielanowski
>> Editor,
>> Online Tool Reviews
>> http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Latest 5 Reviews:
>> - Veritas Shelf Drilling Jig
>> - Ryobi CID1802V 18v Cordless Drill
>> - Workshop Essentials Under $30
>> - Festool PS 300 Jigsaws
>> - Delta Universal Tenoning Jig
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

31/01/2004 5:37 PM

Alan W wrote:
>> Rather than buy the expensive block sets sold by Lee Valley and
>> others, check out key stock at any decent hardware store, including
>> the BORGs. They come in several "common" sizes. Look and act like
>> the blocks used for router setup, but cost only a dollar or two each.
>
> Which section of the BORG do they hide these little jewels? Were they
> near anything in particular?
>
> Thanks
> Alan

The hardware deparment with allthe draweres of things. These are the keys
used to hold a pulley on a motor shaft. Very accurate

--
Ed
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MH

"Mike Hide"

in reply to [email protected] (Stan Graves) on 30/01/2004 12:23 PM

30/01/2004 8:51 PM

Good idea, but why not make your own ....mjh

--




"Stan Graves" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm setting up my woodshop, and I hope (with SWMBO's advice and
> consent) to have several of new tools that need to be calibrated.
>
> I have a dial indicator (with a clamp, not a mag base), and a couple
> pairs of calipers that are more accurate that I am.
>
> I'd love to get a good set of gage blocks for common woodworking
> dimensions. Does anyone use gage blocks when setting up tools, or
> jigs?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --Stan Graves
> [email protected]
> http://www.SoundInMotionDJ.com


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