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Mark

14/06/2007 12:41 AM

Killing a tree???

Greetings All,
I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of my trees.
It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark


This topic has 19 replies

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Andy

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

13/06/2007 6:22 PM

> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of my trees.
> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
> but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
> I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
> folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
> neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark

Sorry - we're only experts after the tree is dead. Let us know after
your neighbor succeeds in his secret plot, and maybe one of us would
be interested in having it milled up. With your tempting description
of "not an oak", I'm sure the wood would be in high demand.

Mi

Mike in Arkansas

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

13/06/2007 9:10 PM

Broadleaf Week Killer. Enough granuals (as is weed and feed) around
the base of the tree will do the job. Or just spray the tree with
liquid broadleaf week killer. Ideally, in the fall just before the
leafs turn. You won't notice anything odd until the next spring when
your tree doesn't leaf out. I can attest this works wonderfully on
cotton wood trees and black locust. Don't ask me how I know about
this.

On Jun 13, 7:41 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> Greetings All,
> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of my trees.
> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
> but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
> I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
> folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
> neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark



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Treelady

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

15/06/2007 2:01 AM

On Jun 15, 2:02 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> ROY! wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:33 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>Greetings All,
> >> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of mytrees.
> >> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
> >>but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
> >>I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
> >>folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
> >>neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark
>
> > Why do I think it is you, who with our help, is plotting to kill the
> > neighbor's tree??????
>
> Probably cuz he doesn't have any, so there's nothing for me to kill.

Salt will kill a tree, if applied around the base. The removal of a
sizeable strip of cambium around the girth of the main stem(s) will
also kill a tree.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

15/06/2007 7:47 PM

On Jun 13, 8:41 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of my trees.
> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
> but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
> I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
> folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
> neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark

Perhaps you should try posting to alt.paranoia or
alt.I.can't.get.along.with.my.neighbor

If you have a neighbor as an enemy, the only way to defeat them is to
make them your friend.

R

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

16/06/2007 11:20 AM

On Jun 16, 1:40?am, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> dpb wrote:
> | Morris Dovey wrote:
> || dpb wrote:
>
> ||
> ||| What variety of tree was this? If you actually cut the cambium
> ||| layer completely, it'll die beginning the moment the last cell is
> ||| cut for any species I'm aware of...
> |||
> ||| You must not have gotten quite deep enough.
> ||
> || <eg> Let me introduce you to weeping willow...
> ||
> || Six years after cutting the tree down and into 8' logs, they were
> || still putting out new branches (with leaves) and trying to re-root.
> ||
> || I had to roll the logs every year to prevent successful rooting.
> ||
> || How deep d'ya gotta go?
> |
> | Yeah, I keep forgetting about places where it rains all the time...
> | :)
>
> Ya, you betcha - that was in the great tropical rain forest of
> Minnesota. ;-)
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Ah, a lot like here, only colder. Damp and cool the past few days
(very low 60s, 1/4" rain per day), and I won't have to roll logs to
keep them from rooting, but I will have to go along and clip all the
shoots from various fruit trees and, particularly, the hybrid poplars
along the drive. The power company cut those down and ground up the
stumps last year, but I figure it will be a decade, at least, before
the shoots stop coming. The fruit tree shoots are simpler, because
they're slower growing--just mow them off. The poplars...yeah, well,
those things grew 3-4' annually for 15 years and don't seem inclined
to stop. Some of the shoots were a foot or more over my head before we
got them cut off. Within three years, they'd make viable trees again,
and then we'd be in the same cycle, with the power company needing to
cut down some healthy, great looking trees because ice storms can put
them into power lines. We'll clip.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

17/06/2007 8:49 PM

On Jun 17, 10:49 pm, BillinDetroit <[email protected]> wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
> > If you have a neighbor as an enemy, the only way to defeat them is to
> > make them your friend.
>
> If you want him to give you a wide berth, loan him $20.

I know that as an Italian proverb:
If your neighbor bothers you, lend him money.

R

Bp

BillinDetroit

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

17/06/2007 10:49 PM

RicodJour wrote:

> If you have a neighbor as an enemy, the only way to defeat them is to
> make them your friend.
>
> R
>

If you want him to give you a wide berth, loan him $20.

If you want him to move away in the night, loan him a new lawnmower.


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JJ

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

13/06/2007 9:18 PM

Thu, Jun 14, 2007, 12:41am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Mark) stumbles in
mumbing:
Greetings All,
=A0=A0=A0=A0I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of
my trees. It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does
nothing
but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. =A0 =A0 Thanks, Mark

If it's not an oak we can't help you. Go talk to a local tree
surgeon and have him take the tree's temperatre for you..



JOAT
If a man does his best, what else is there?
- General George S. Patton

Ri

ROY!

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

14/06/2007 5:22 PM

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:33 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:

>Greetings All,
> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of my trees.
> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
>but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
>I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
>folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
>neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark

Why do I think it is you, who with our help, is plotting to kill the
neighbor's tree??????

Ll

Leuf

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

13/06/2007 9:42 PM

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:33 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:

>Greetings All,
> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of my trees.
> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
>but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
>I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
>folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
>neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark

I'd say if there's a big notch cut in it pointed at your house that
would be a pretty good sign.

What's he upset about? Roots in his yard? Too much shade? Think's
it going to fall on his property? Just hates trees in general?


-Leuf

MD

"Morris Dovey"

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

15/06/2007 10:35 PM

dpb wrote:

| What variety of tree was this? If you actually cut the cambium
| layer completely, it'll die beginning the moment the last cell is
| cut for any species I'm aware of...
|
| You must not have gotten quite deep enough.

<eg> Let me introduce you to weeping willow...

Six years after cutting the tree down and into 8' logs, they were
still putting out new branches (with leaves) and trying to re-root.

I had to roll the logs every year to prevent successful rooting.

How deep d'ya gotta go?

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

"Morris Dovey"

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

16/06/2007 12:40 AM

dpb wrote:
| Morris Dovey wrote:
|| dpb wrote:
||
||| What variety of tree was this? If you actually cut the cambium
||| layer completely, it'll die beginning the moment the last cell is
||| cut for any species I'm aware of...
|||
||| You must not have gotten quite deep enough.
||
|| <eg> Let me introduce you to weeping willow...
||
|| Six years after cutting the tree down and into 8' logs, they were
|| still putting out new branches (with leaves) and trying to re-root.
||
|| I had to roll the logs every year to prevent successful rooting.
||
|| How deep d'ya gotta go?
|
| Yeah, I keep forgetting about places where it rains all the time...
| :)

Ya, you betcha - that was in the great tropical rain forest of
Minnesota. ;-)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

14/06/2007 10:14 PM

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:33 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:

>Greetings All,
> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of my trees.
> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
>but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
>I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
>folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
>neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark

Perhaps invite him over, offer a beer, and talk about nothing. There's
a more-serious "trust" issue going on here.

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

17/06/2007 10:42 PM

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:55:34 -0500, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:

>Phisherman wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:01:16 -0700, Treelady
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2:02 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> ROY! wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:33 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Greetings All,
>>>>>> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of mytrees.
>>>>>> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
>>>>>> but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
>>>>>> I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
>>>>>> folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
>>>>>> neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark
>>>>> Why do I think it is you, who with our help, is plotting to kill the
>>>>> neighbor's tree??????
>>>> Probably cuz he doesn't have any, so there's nothing for me to kill.
>>> Salt will kill a tree, if applied around the base. The removal of a
>>> sizeable strip of cambium around the girth of the main stem(s) will
>>> also kill a tree.
>>
>>
>> Last year I removed the bark and notched completely around two
>> different trees, yet the trees (to my surprise) have completely leafed
>> out. After ringing a tree how long will it take it die? Plus, the
>> trees are putting out suckers that I constantly cut off. My plan is
>> to drill holes in the stump and keep them filled with nitrogen.
>
>What variety of tree was this? If you actually cut the cambium layer
>completely, it'll die beginning the moment the last cell is cut for any
>species I'm aware of...
>
>You must not have gotten quite deep enough.


I'm sure it was deep, all the way around. One is a sourwood, the
other is a locust (I believe).

MM

Mark

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

14/06/2007 8:02 PM

ROY! wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:33 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Greetings All,
>> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of my trees.
>> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
>>but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
>>I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
>>folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
>>neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark
>
>
> Why do I think it is you, who with our help, is plotting to kill the
> neighbor's tree??????
Probably cuz he doesn't have any, so there's nothing for me to kill.

MM

Mark

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

13/06/2007 8:54 PM

Leuf wrote:
Mainly roots I guess, he's not very talkative....
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:33 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Greetings All,
>> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of my trees.
>> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
>>but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
>>I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
>>folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
>>neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark
>
>
> I'd say if there's a big notch cut in it pointed at your house that
> would be a pretty good sign.
>
> What's he upset about? Roots in his yard? Too much shade? Think's
> it going to fall on his property? Just hates trees in general?
>
>
> -Leuf

dn

dpb

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

15/06/2007 8:55 PM

Phisherman wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:01:16 -0700, Treelady
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 15, 2:02 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> ROY! wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:33 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Greetings All,
>>>>> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of mytrees.
>>>>> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
>>>>> but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
>>>>> I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
>>>>> folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
>>>>> neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark
>>>> Why do I think it is you, who with our help, is plotting to kill the
>>>> neighbor's tree??????
>>> Probably cuz he doesn't have any, so there's nothing for me to kill.
>> Salt will kill a tree, if applied around the base. The removal of a
>> sizeable strip of cambium around the girth of the main stem(s) will
>> also kill a tree.
>
>
> Last year I removed the bark and notched completely around two
> different trees, yet the trees (to my surprise) have completely leafed
> out. After ringing a tree how long will it take it die? Plus, the
> trees are putting out suckers that I constantly cut off. My plan is
> to drill holes in the stump and keep them filled with nitrogen.

What variety of tree was this? If you actually cut the cambium layer
completely, it'll die beginning the moment the last cell is cut for any
species I'm aware of...

You must not have gotten quite deep enough.

--

dn

dpb

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

15/06/2007 11:34 PM

Morris Dovey wrote:
> dpb wrote:
>
> | What variety of tree was this? If you actually cut the cambium
> | layer completely, it'll die beginning the moment the last cell is
> | cut for any species I'm aware of...
> |
> | You must not have gotten quite deep enough.
>
> <eg> Let me introduce you to weeping willow...
>
> Six years after cutting the tree down and into 8' logs, they were
> still putting out new branches (with leaves) and trying to re-root.
>
> I had to roll the logs every year to prevent successful rooting.
>
> How deep d'ya gotta go?

Yeah, I keep forgetting about places where it rains all the time... :)

--

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to Mark on 14/06/2007 12:41 AM

16/06/2007 1:53 AM

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:01:16 -0700, Treelady
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jun 15, 2:02 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ROY! wrote:
>> > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:41:33 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>Greetings All,
>> >> I'm concerned that my neighbor may be trying to kill one of mytrees.
>> >> It sits about 2 feet from our common property line and he does nothing
>> >>but complain about it. I'm not sure of the species, but it's not an oak.
>> >>I've heard of some ways to kill a tree (copper nails in it, etc) but you
>> >>folks are the experts. What signs should I look out for from my
>> >>neferious neighbor? I really want to keep my tree. Thanks, Mark
>>
>> > Why do I think it is you, who with our help, is plotting to kill the
>> > neighbor's tree??????
>>
>> Probably cuz he doesn't have any, so there's nothing for me to kill.
>
>Salt will kill a tree, if applied around the base. The removal of a
>sizeable strip of cambium around the girth of the main stem(s) will
>also kill a tree.


Last year I removed the bark and notched completely around two
different trees, yet the trees (to my surprise) have completely leafed
out. After ringing a tree how long will it take it die? Plus, the
trees are putting out suckers that I constantly cut off. My plan is
to drill holes in the stump and keep them filled with nitrogen.


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