Grabbed the nice lil' block plane this weekend for a quick touch up. Dunno'
what I was thinking. Had I been in proper-state-of-mind, I obviously would'a
wresteled the whole top cabinet up onto the router table with a Whiteside
upcut, solid-carbide flush trim bit.
Whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka.
Cute lil' curls come flittering up and out.
Driftin' to the floor like, softly, like gentle snowflakes.
Whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka.
Wow, sure is quiet.
Beautiful sun rays streaking through the windows.
I see dust dancing, defying gravity.
Whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka.
Wonder when I should hook up the sprinkler system?
Gott'a get after them dandelions too.
Wow - is that a blue jay out there?!?
Whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka.
Whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka, whoosh'ka.
Not sure how much time passed - how long I was out. Not sure what exactly
pulled me back - maybe a car horn, or maybe Nahm picked up the Disturbance
in the Force.
For therapy - I spent the next hour running perfectly good 8/4 stock through
the power thickness planer until it was 1/32" veneer. Brad nailed the
veneer to some melamine. Spent the afternoon at the Milwaukee and Bosch
outlet stores. That evening, I typed the entire Delta product catalog into
Excel and then sorted everything by amperage.
All I can say is "Close one..."
Good to be back.
can you use parrot feathers in fly-tying? just a curiosity as we have a
parrot and from time to time he loses a few.
BRuce
Conan the Librarian wrote:
> [email protected] (Mike) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>
>>Your local birds have better manners than mine. A pair of mallards
>>waddled up my driveway on Sunday evening and the female left a big
>>present near the entrance to my gar^h^hshop. I hosed it off and then
>>got the neighbor kids, who fed the ducks some bread. After the
>>excitement was over, I walked back into my gar^h^hshop to find that
>>the male had left his business right in the middle of the floor.
>>They're very close to becoming dinner.
>
>
> I always thought mallards were almost as bad as sh*thawks
> (seagulls, Paddy) if they're tame. Thanks for confirming that. :-)
>
> We get them on some local fishing waters, and wherever people have
> fed them they become a real annoyance. They will literally come up
> and try to steal anything you set down on the bank. Sometimes they'll
> even chase fishing lures/flies.
>
> If you do decide to make some duck soup, save the feathers for me.
> They have lots of uses in fly-tying. :-)
>
>
> Chuck Vance
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Conan the Librarian) writes:
..
>> Yeah, I was actually intending to make a Firesign Theater
reference
...
>
> I believe what you're after was side B of Waiting for the Electrician,
...
You two memorized FST? But what about the elevator boy?
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In article <[email protected]>,
Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK guys, I'll bite. What's FST & where are all those references from?
Firesign Theatre. Comedy group known mostly by their LPs. Surreal, very
witty, very addictive. You'll recognize fans easily because we've
memorized the albums and quote them at length.
There are cross-references between the albums; Nick Danger gets a
wrong number for a pizza order on one album ("No anchovies? You've got
the wrong number. I spell my name 'Danger'"), then we hear the other
end of the call on another album ("Nobody delivers in the Hills.")
Ah, he's no fun. He fell right over.
Regards,
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[email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Ahh, good ol' Commie Martyr High...
>
> I believe what you're after was side B of Waiting for the Electrician,
> though. (Hmmm... Is that a whiff of irony in the air?)
> Don't you remember learning your next three words in Turkish?
> It was during the Lord Kitchner/Kirshner introduction, IIRC.
Damn. The memory ain't what it used to be. Not that it ever was.
Dr. Memory?
> The "Werewolf? There, wolf." schtick from Young Frankenstein
> was good, too.
>
> OBWW: Don't grab that router, son, use your entrenching tool!
I had no idea you were a FST-head, Dr. Thunder. :-)
Chuck Vance
Just say (tmPL) He says he can shout, don't hear you.
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 22 Apr 2004 05:51:48 -0700, [email protected] (Conan the Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> Yeah, fishing is a meditative sport when you're not up
> against dozens of beer-swillin' "buddies".
I've found that it's simple enough to avoid that. You just have to
be willing to hike a bit. And I tend to fish rivers (streams,
really), where I can wade to get to the best spots (or get away from
Bubba).
I'm not a fishing snob, but I just find that this style of fishing
is more in line with my general world-view. If you think about it,
flyfishing is more like neander wooddorking, while the bass boat
bubbas are more akin to Nahm. (Boy, that oughta get a reaction. :-)
> My old bones tell me to go for the dark side of the Force
> as they creak any more. 'Tis indeed sad...
I don't have any real physical infirmities, so I guess I'm lucky in
that regard. And neandering helps keep the old bones from creaking
too badly. (As well as maintaining my girlish figure.)
> Do you remember that "Moms are like that" commercial?
Nope, that one went right over my head.
> I would have handed you the pliers had I remembered that line.
And another closet FST-head comes out.
Chuck Vance
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 28 Apr 2004 14:43:57 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> > So you've been down there with your net in hand? ;-)
>
> No tickee, no washee. (fines are added to the license fees)
> Not that I haven't been tempted...
Also, depending on what stage of the spawning process the fish are
in, they are not at their best on the plate.
> I was going to get a steelhead for my sister's visit and the damned
> store was out of them so I settled for a 2.5 lb trout. It was good,
> but the steelhead is so much more buttery and tasty that I may not
> buy another trout.
I'm not talking about going to the grocery store. Heck, we can buy
the things in the store and they're probably only a couple of days
older than what you can get. I'm talking about going out and catching
the things yourself. (Damned city boys.)
> > Just say (tmPL) The next thing you know, you'll be saying that
> >we don't need all of those fancy planes to surface wood.
>
> I hope you never hear me utter those blasphemous words.
Hope should have nothing to do with it, Lar.
Chuck Vance
On 28 Apr 2004 14:43:57 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>> upstream in 6" deep water. Y'know, wade in, reach down, and take in
>> dinner. ;)
>
> So you've been down there with your net in hand? ;-)
No tickee, no washee. (fines are added to the license fees)
Not that I haven't been tempted...
>> > Poor boy. You have to go all of 1/4 mile to get to the freaking
>> >Rogue River. I really feel sorry for you.
>>
>> Roger on ACK of the neener.
>
> Roger on the request for confirmation of a neener. Will confirm
>once I hear that you have actually gotten into the water and dragged a
>steelhead or salmon from there. :-)
Brrrrrrr!
> Well get out there, man. Hell, here in Texas we stock trout just
>so we can get a sense of what it's like, and you're right there in a
>spot like that!
I was going to get a steelhead for my sister's visit and the damned
store was out of them so I settled for a 2.5 lb trout. It was good,
but the steelhead is so much more buttery and tasty that I may not
buy another trout.
>> Right. And who needs a $2,500 rod and reel to catch dinner?
>> </fisherman's sacrilege>
>
> Blasphemy! And on a
>tool-collect^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hwoodworking group, no less!!
<ww,nn,kwim?>
> Just say (tmPL) The next thing you know, you'll be saying that
>we don't need all of those fancy planes to surface wood.
I hope you never hear me utter those blasphemous words.
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Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Yesterday I was working on a spice rack for SWMBO - had my Record
> #80 in use for the first time in two decades. I looked up and saw
> some thing I'd never seen before: a /social/ gathering of hawks
> at the farm next door.
>
> I didn't get a really good picture with the camera; but I'll post
> it over on ABPW...
I don't get the binary groups (well, I can get them but not the
pictures associated with them). Got a link to a site where I could
see that pic? I see hawks on a regular basis down here, but I've
*never* seen them in a group.
As for the Record #80 -- I'm assuming that's the same as the
Stanley #80? If so, that awful screeching noise they make is probably
responsible for attracting the birds. ;-)
Chuck Vance
[email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> writes:
>
> > Ever listen to the album "A Child's Garden of Grass"?
Listen to it? I *lived* it! ;-)
> "Zipping is very quick. Unzipping seems to take forevvvvver."
>
> OBWW (more for Chuck): Are the best flyrods still made of
> tonkin cane?
Depends on what you mean by "best". :-) If you like a slow-action
rod for delivering dry flies, then a tonkin bamboo is probably about
as good as you can get. (For the price, they'd better be; they cost
upwards of $1K.) But graphite rods are the industry standard these
days. They can be made with just about any action desired, from
almost as slow as fiberglass to very whippy.
Personally, I hope to one day make a bamboo rod. But it's fairly
far down on SWMBO's list of wooddorking projects. :-)
Chuck Vance
BRuce <BRuce> wrote in message news:<1082987306.467562@sj-nntpcache-3>...
> can you use parrot feathers in fly-tying? just a curiosity as we have a
> parrot and from time to time he loses a few.
I guess it would depend on what type of fly-fishing you were doing.
The colors would definitely be worth tying with, but if you are
trout-fishing, I imagine they'd be a bit too big for normal tying.
For saltwater tying, it's possible that you could find some uses.
You could always send me some and I'll let you know for sure. :-)
Chuck Vance
In article <[email protected]>, Australopithecus
scobis <[email protected]> wrote:
> then we hear the other
> end of the call on another album ("Nobody delivers in the Hills.")
The album "How can you be in two places at once, when you're not
anywhere at all"
> Ah, he's no fun. He fell right over.
Fudd's 1st Law of Opposition: If you push something hard enough, it
*will* fall over.
Testicles Deviant to Fudd's Law: It goes in, it *must* come out.
(From "I think we're all bozos on this bus")
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On 20 Apr 2004 05:53:32 -0700, [email protected] (Conan the Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
> Nicely said, charlieb. Along those lines, I work in my garage in a
>fairly rural neighborhood well away from any big towns. Many's the
>time that I've looked up from a neander job to see a deer or three
>standing almost within arm's reach. They look more curious than
>afraid. I also have a group of finches that hang out in a tree right
>by the garage, and I get to listen to them playing around and chasing
>each other while I'm working. Every once in a while I'll get a
>hummingbird drawn to the red release pull on my garage door.
Finches are great little guys, aren't they? I love the quiet little
sounds they make. If you're quiet and know how to listen, they'll talk
to you on several different levels.
> Not that those animals wouldn't come around if I was using power,
>but I doubt that I would notice them.
I strongly doubt that they'd come anywhere -near- a screaming routah
or table saur.
> And thanks to you too, charlieb. Sad to say, but I sometimes
>almost take it for granted. Even neanders can get caught up in the
>pro*ject* to the exclusion of the pro*cess*.
Hear, hear!
After working with my neighbor's Husky chain saw for a few hours
yesterday (he's paying me to cut Madrone stumps down to ground level
so a stump grinder can finish them, and I brought home the carvable
slabs/cubes), I wanted some peace and quiet time in the shop. I
grabbed a piece of jarrah, took it to the band saur, and cut it
into an L shape, slit the short side, then drilled a 1/4" hole
in it. After finding the package of beading bits Robin sent to
me (not personally, just LVT stock), I cut it into ovolo profile
with a hacksaw and file and inserted it into the holder. After
working with it for half an hour and just starting to see some
improvement (removal of RBS from the bead in the mantle I'm
de-RBSing) I realized that my arms were so sore from the chain
saur work that I had to put it down and quit for the day. I had
spent about an hour with the manual chain saw file sharpening
chains for him, too. Anyway, I happily sneaked some Neander time
into my day.
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There's something about a sharp chisel paring a see-through sliver of
end grain,
a shoulder plane with the iron set just so shaving one sided curlies off
the shoulder
of a tenon, the quiet zdddd, zddddd, zddddd of a japanese dovetail saw
in cherry,
the zooosh as a #5 takes some of the top of a drawer front off,
releasing the scent of
cinnoman (sp?) as it exposes a fresh vibrant orange surface, the quick
rap of
a mallet on the top of a chisel handle. (the occassional "YIKES!" when
part of you
gets between the mallel and the chisel handle top ...)
Power tools hog off wood. With hand tools you sneak up on what you
want, watching
as you get closer and closer. And that attentativeness spills over into
noticing
other things - that dust dancing in the sunlight coming through the shop
window,
the jar of shellac on the window sill playing with the light as it
passes through
it.
Hand tools work at your speed, not 3450 rpms. There's tactile feedback
that
lets you know the wood does or doesn't like what you're doing. You can
hear
when something changes as you plane or chisel or saw. You're never
going to
burn the wood with hand tools. And there's no "Pucker Factor" like when
using
tailed demons.
(If you neander late at night there will be fewer distractions to pull
you
out of "that special place".)
thanks for the reminder
charlie b
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> Ask and ye shall be enlightened, Zenweegee:
> http://www.firesigntheatre.com/
Also, alt.comedy.firesgn-thtre
Forward, into the past!
djb
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 23:31:12 -0700, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>OK guys, I'll bite. What's FST & where are all those references from?
Ask and ye shall be enlightened, Zenweegee:
http://www.firesigntheatre.com/
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On 23 Apr 2004 17:18:13 GMT, [email protected] (Jeffrey
Thunder) brought forth from the murky depths:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> writes:
>
>> Ever listen to the album "A Child's Garden of Grass"?
>
>"Zipping is very quick. Unzipping seems to take forevvvvver."
>
>OBWW (more for Chuck): Are the best flyrods still made of
>tonkin cane?
Great minds think alike, Doc.
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charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [little snip]
>
> Power tools hog off wood. With hand tools you sneak up on what you
> want, watching
> as you get closer and closer. And that attentativeness spills over into
> noticing
> other things - that dust dancing in the sunlight coming through the shop
> window,
> the jar of shellac on the window sill playing with the light as it
> passes through
> it.
Nicely said, charlieb. Along those lines, I work in my garage in a
fairly rural neighborhood well away from any big towns. Many's the
time that I've looked up from a neander job to see a deer or three
standing almost within arm's reach. They look more curious than
afraid. I also have a group of finches that hang out in a tree right
by the garage, and I get to listen to them playing around and chasing
each other while I'm working. Every once in a while I'll get a
hummingbird drawn to the red release pull on my garage door.
Not that those animals wouldn't come around if I was using power,
but I doubt that I would notice them.
> Hand tools work at your speed, not 3450 rpms. There's tactile feedback
> that
> lets you know the wood does or doesn't like what you're doing. You can
> hear
> when something changes as you plane or chisel or saw. You're never
> going to
> burn the wood with hand tools. And there's no "Pucker Factor" like when
> using
> tailed demons.
>
> (If you neander late at night there will be fewer distractions to pull
> you
> out of "that special place".)
>
> thanks for the reminder
And thanks to you too, charlieb. Sad to say, but I sometimes
almost take it for granted. Even neanders can get caught up in the
pro*ject* to the exclusion of the pro*cess*.
Chuck Vance
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 26 Apr 2004 04:55:30 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> ["A Child's Garden of Grass"]
>
> > Listen to it? I *lived* it! ;-)
>
> Ah, so you're the reason Myron Florin sold more than one album.
Actually, IIRC, the only way you could listen to polka music was if
they were all playing at once. (BTW, down here in Texas, Myron makes
regular appearances for various festivals like Wurstfest and
Oktoberfest ... or at least he did until recently. Dunno if he's
still alive ... or if he smokes dope.)
> > Personally, I hope to one day make a bamboo rod. But it's fairly
> >far down on SWMBO's list of wooddorking projects. :-)
>
> I picked one up for a buck at a garage sale when I moved up here
> but never have gotten around to buying that fishing license. One
> neighbor said that there was too many pollutants upstream which
> tainted the fish, but I haven't checked the actual water analyses.
What's the river you're thinking of fishing? I can probably get a
firsthand report from the Usenet flyfishing group.
Also, if you just fish catch and release, you don't have to worry
about pollutants, unless you tend to fall into the water a lot. :-)
> It's a 3-pc metal-ferruled job about 15' long imported directly from
> Japan. It is about 3/4" diameter tapering to a 1/" tip with a single
> eyelet. Very flexible and fairly lightweight. Bamboo is neat wood.
Bamboo is very cool. From the sound of it, you've got a rod used
for "dapping" (i.e., taking bait or a fly, reaching to where you want
to fish and dropping it down to the fish without casting). Bamboo
rods for flyfishing are usually in the 7-8' range and would have a
series of "snake guides" for casting a flyline.
Anyhow, at $1 it's a bargain. In a worst-case scenario, you can
always cut it into pieces and use it as stakes in your vegetable
garden. :-)
Chuck Vance
On 26 Apr 2004 04:55:30 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>[email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> writes:
>>
>> > Ever listen to the album "A Child's Garden of Grass"?
>
> Listen to it? I *lived* it! ;-)
Ah, so you're the reason Myron Florin sold more than one album.
> Personally, I hope to one day make a bamboo rod. But it's fairly
>far down on SWMBO's list of wooddorking projects. :-)
I picked one up for a buck at a garage sale when I moved up here
but never have gotten around to buying that fishing license. One
neighbor said that there was too many pollutants upstream which
tainted the fish, but I haven't checked the actual water analyses.
It's a 3-pc metal-ferruled job about 15' long imported directly from
Japan. It is about 3/4" diameter tapering to a 1/" tip with a single
eyelet. Very flexible and fairly lightweight. Bamboo is neat wood.
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Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:33:53 -0500, Conan the Librarian
> <[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> > As for those waders, you don't need to spend that much to get really
> >good waders. Simms is pretty much the top-of-the-line, but they offer
> >some fine ones for about $150. (BTW, if you do buy waders, get
> >breathable ones. Just trust me.)
> >http://www.flymartflyshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=simms-freestone-waders&Category_Code=waders
>
> With steelhead at $5/lb, that's a lotta 1/2 lb. meals, bubba.
FWIW, I rarely keep a fish I catch. So I don't know if I'd ever
"make my money back". But that's not the point.
Ooops, for a second I forgot who I'm talking to here. <squeak>
<squeak> :-)
> > Cool. Now if we can just teach you that fishing isn't about saving
> >money at the grocery store. :-)
>
> I have more fun shooting than fishing so I got a nice camera.
Those aren't mutually exclusive, Lar. In fact, since I've gotten
back into flyfishing I'm considering buying myself a decent digicam.
I've got a good old Nikon F that's been my weapon of choice for 25
years, but I need something a bit more portable than that.
> With
> fishing, you end up having to buy a boat, etc.
I don't own a boat, and I don't have any plans to buy one, but I
can get to all sorts of good fishing just by walking and wading a bit.
And I live in Texas, where public river access is really limited.
> I'll email some pics of the river to you, along with Savage Rapids
> Dam, teeny thing that it is. I haven't driven up to the real dam
> upstream yet, or to Crater Lake, but spring is the time and I might
> be doing that on Mother's Day while everyone else is with family.
> (Mine is still in the Republik of Kalifornia.)
>
> Check your email.
Thanks for the pics. That's a very pretty area. Is there much
public access to the river?
Chuck Vance
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:33:53 -0500, Conan the Librarian
> <[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>
>> Next thing you know you'll be telling me that you woodwork to save
>>money on furniture.
>
>
> <vbg>
>
>
>> As for those waders, you don't need to spend that much to get really
>>good waders. Simms is pretty much the top-of-the-line, but they offer
>>some fine ones for about $150. (BTW, if you do buy waders, get
>>breathable ones. Just trust me.)
>>http://www.flymartflyshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=simms-freestone-waders&Category_Code=waders
>
>
> With steelhead at $5/lb, that's a lotta 1/2 lb. meals, bubba.
Have seconds, cuts your payback in time, and fish is brain food;-)
Joe
>
>
>
>>>> Hope should have nothing to do with it, Lar.
>>>
>>>
>>>True. I never see myself uttering those words.
>>
>> Cool. Now if we can just teach you that fishing isn't about saving
>>money at the grocery store. :-)
>
>
> I have more fun shooting than fishing so I got a nice camera. With
> fishing, you end up having to buy a boat, etc.
>
> I'll email some pics of the river to you, along with Savage Rapids
> Dam, teeny thing that it is. I haven't driven up to the real dam
> upstream yet, or to Crater Lake, but spring is the time and I might
> be doing that on Mother's Day while everyone else is with family.
> (Mine is still in the Republik of Kalifornia.)
>
> Check your email.
>
>
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:33:53 -0500, Conan the Librarian
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
> Next thing you know you'll be telling me that you woodwork to save
>money on furniture.
<vbg>
> As for those waders, you don't need to spend that much to get really
>good waders. Simms is pretty much the top-of-the-line, but they offer
>some fine ones for about $150. (BTW, if you do buy waders, get
>breathable ones. Just trust me.)
>http://www.flymartflyshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=simms-freestone-waders&Category_Code=waders
With steelhead at $5/lb, that's a lotta 1/2 lb. meals, bubba.
>>> Hope should have nothing to do with it, Lar.
>>
>>
>> True. I never see myself uttering those words.
>
> Cool. Now if we can just teach you that fishing isn't about saving
>money at the grocery store. :-)
I have more fun shooting than fishing so I got a nice camera. With
fishing, you end up having to buy a boat, etc.
I'll email some pics of the river to you, along with Savage Rapids
Dam, teeny thing that it is. I haven't driven up to the real dam
upstream yet, or to Crater Lake, but spring is the time and I might
be doing that on Mother's Day while everyone else is with family.
(Mine is still in the Republik of Kalifornia.)
Check your email.
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Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Finches are great little guys, aren't they? I love the quiet little
> sounds they make. If you're quiet and know how to listen, they'll talk
> to you on several different levels.
I guess I haven't listened *quite* that closely yet. :-) There
are several who hang out in the crepe myrtle tree right in front of
the garage, and they are a real kick to watch when they are playing
around. They also seem totally unafraid of me; many times I'll walk
into the house for a drink of water and when I come back out there'll
be a couple sitting *inside* the garage on top of my wood storage
shelves. :-)
Down here we get quite a few talkative birds, though I'm no
ornithologist so I can't tell you what they all are. I do know the
scrub jays, as they are loud and fairly obnoxious. And then we get a
few redbirds depending on the time of year. And of course
hummingbirds are common, we get an occasional hawk and lots of
buzzards. :-} There's also a bird that sounds like a rusty gate
hinge. Used to be a pair of them that I'd hear on a regular basis
answering each other just after dusk.
You know, I'm just starting to fully realize how much other stuff I
pay attention to when I'm supposed to be wooddorking. :-)
> I strongly doubt that they'd come anywhere -near- a screaming routah
> or table saur.
But you'd be surprised what they attract. I think I posted
sometime back that there was a wasp nest just outside the shop. I
didn't bother them and they didn't bother me until one day I fired up
my routah. Evidently they couldn't stand it, because they started
divebombing me while I was using it. :-}
> Hear, hear!
Where, where?
> After working with my neighbor's Husky chain saw for a few hours
> yesterday (he's paying me to cut Madrone stumps down to ground level
> so a stump grinder can finish them, and I brought home the carvable
> slabs/cubes), I wanted some peace and quiet time in the shop. I
> grabbed a piece of jarrah, took it to the band saur, and cut it
> into an L shape, slit the short side, then drilled a 1/4" hole
> in it. After finding the package of beading bits Robin sent to
> me (not personally, just LVT stock), I cut it into ovolo profile
> with a hacksaw and file and inserted it into the holder. After
> working with it for half an hour and just starting to see some
> improvement (removal of RBS from the bead in the mantle I'm
> de-RBSing) I realized that my arms were so sore from the chain
> saur work that I had to put it down and quit for the day. I had
> spent about an hour with the manual chain saw file sharpening
> chains for him, too. Anyway, I happily sneaked some Neander time
> into my day.
Yep, it's a Good Thing (tm).
Chuck Vance
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 26 Apr 2004 16:59:41 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> > What's the river you're thinking of fishing? I can probably get a
> >firsthand report from the Usenet flyfishing group.
>
> The Rogue River runs about 300 yards south of me, about 50'
> below my property.
Whoa, the Rogue is very well-known as a steelhead river. What town
are you near?
> I should be fairly safe from floods, which
> I hear happen quite often here. An old coupl just bought a
> piece of property 2 lots down on the river and put up an 8,000
> sq/ft home about 8' above the water line. The next time the
> river rises, they'll be history. Unfortunately, 4 of the friendly
> neighbors all are one lot away from the river. I have no access
> locally except at the park 1/4 mile down.
Poor boy. You have to go all of 1/4 mile to get to the freaking
Rogue River. I really feel sorry for you.
> > Also, if you just fish catch and release, you don't have to worry
> >about pollutants, unless you tend to fall into the water a lot. :-)
>
> That water is only about 40F and I don't have a license, so...
So get some waders and a license, son. I can't believe you'd be
that close to fishing paradise and complain about a little cold water.
> > Bamboo is very cool. From the sound of it, you've got a rod used
> >for "dapping" (i.e., taking bait or a fly, reaching to where you want
> >to fish and dropping it down to the fish without casting). Bamboo
> >rods for flyfishing are usually in the 7-8' range and would have a
> >series of "snake guides" for casting a flyline.
>
> Since it's a 3-pc, I could use the two end pieces.
You could try that, but if it's a flyrod, it will be made for a
specific line weight that you'll need to match it with. Plus, it will
have a reel-seat and some ceramic "stripping guides" in the butt
section and snake guides further up towards the tip. I'm guessing
yours is really just "pole" for dangling bait in the water.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
> > Anyhow, at $1 it's a bargain. In a worst-case scenario, you can
> >always cut it into pieces and use it as stakes in your vegetable
> >garden. :-)
>
> Hey, I'm about ready to plant, too...
Should be just the thing for t'maters.
Chuck Vance
On 26 Apr 2004 16:59:41 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
> What's the river you're thinking of fishing? I can probably get a
>firsthand report from the Usenet flyfishing group.
The Rogue River runs about 300 yards south of me, about 50'
below my property. I should be fairly safe from floods, which
I hear happen quite often here. An old coupl just bought a
piece of property 2 lots down on the river and put up an 8,000
sq/ft home about 8' above the water line. The next time the
river rises, they'll be history. Unfortunately, 4 of the friendly
neighbors all are one lot away from the river. I have no access
locally except at the park 1/4 mile down.
> Also, if you just fish catch and release, you don't have to worry
>about pollutants, unless you tend to fall into the water a lot. :-)
That water is only about 40F and I don't have a license, so...
>> It's a 3-pc metal-ferruled job about 15' long imported directly from
>> Japan. It is about 3/4" diameter tapering to a 1/" tip with a single
>> eyelet. Very flexible and fairly lightweight. Bamboo is neat wood.
>
> Bamboo is very cool. From the sound of it, you've got a rod used
>for "dapping" (i.e., taking bait or a fly, reaching to where you want
>to fish and dropping it down to the fish without casting). Bamboo
>rods for flyfishing are usually in the 7-8' range and would have a
>series of "snake guides" for casting a flyline.
Since it's a 3-pc, I could use the two end pieces.
> Anyhow, at $1 it's a bargain. In a worst-case scenario, you can
>always cut it into pieces and use it as stakes in your vegetable
>garden. :-)
Hey, I'm about ready to plant, too...
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Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 30 Apr 2004 05:02:48 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> > Those aren't mutually exclusive, Lar. In fact, since I've gotten
> >back into flyfishing I'm considering buying myself a decent digicam.
> >I've got a good old Nikon F that's been my weapon of choice for 25
> >years, but I need something a bit more portable than that.
>
> I picked up the Nikon Coolpix 995 a couple years ago and adore it.
> (See, I can get both crowbars out at once for special occasions.)
I'm a Nikon man from way back, so I'll take a look at it. I want
something that's small and won't go on the blink immediately when
exposed to high levels of humidity. (I.e., I'm not planning on
dunking it in the water, but there's a chance it will get splashed
on.)
> > I don't own a boat, and I don't have any plans to buy one, but I
> >can get to all sorts of good fishing just by walking and wading a bit.
> > And I live in Texas, where public river access is really limited.
>
> I heard that Tejas had one river. An int'l border at that.
That ain't a river, son. That's a sewer.
If you want rivers, try the Pedernales, Guadalupe, Brazos,
Colorado, Neches, Blanco, San Antonio, Trinity, Comal, Pecos, San
Saba, Medina, Frio, Neches, Red, Sabine, La Vaca, Angelina, San Marcos
or Llano.
> > Thanks for the pics. That's a very pretty area. Is there much
> >public access to the river?
>
> There are half a dozen parks in the city, a dozen more in the county,
> all with boat launch ramps. There are a few more public access areas
> but I haven't really given it a detailed look. If the water were
> warmer, I certainly would have. I'm acclimating, so maybe in a few
> years I'll be ready for that chilly dip. I think it gets up to 53F
> in the heat of summer. I haven't really looked into access in other
> cities, but the park I love best (good curve for the jet boats in
> the annual races) is in th ecounty with over half a mile of access
> from a truck-accessible rocky
Jet boats? Hmmm ... must be kind of hard to keep your line in the
water, no?
> I helped a neighbor cut down some madrone stumps and brought home the
> wood. It's now painted and will dry for eons before I can even think
> of carving it. (my finger is healing nicely) <--obww
Er ... I'm not sure I wat to know.
But, if you have some spare madrone, I'd be happy to take some off
your hands.
Chuck Vance (who used to live on a street called Trail of the
Madrones, though there weren't actually any madrones there)
>
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On 30 Apr 2004 05:02:48 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
> FWIW, I rarely keep a fish I catch. So I don't know if I'd ever
>"make my money back". But that's not the point.
>
> Ooops, for a second I forgot who I'm talking to here. <squeak>
><squeak> :-)
OK, that's better.
>> > Cool. Now if we can just teach you that fishing isn't about saving
>> >money at the grocery store. :-)
>>
>> I have more fun shooting than fishing so I got a nice camera.
>
> Those aren't mutually exclusive, Lar. In fact, since I've gotten
>back into flyfishing I'm considering buying myself a decent digicam.
>I've got a good old Nikon F that's been my weapon of choice for 25
>years, but I need something a bit more portable than that.
I picked up the Nikon Coolpix 995 a couple years ago and adore it.
(See, I can get both crowbars out at once for special occasions.)
>> With
>> fishing, you end up having to buy a boat, etc.
>
> I don't own a boat, and I don't have any plans to buy one, but I
>can get to all sorts of good fishing just by walking and wading a bit.
> And I live in Texas, where public river access is really limited.
I heard that Tejas had one river. An int'l border at that.
> Thanks for the pics. That's a very pretty area. Is there much
>public access to the river?
There are half a dozen parks in the city, a dozen more in the county,
all with boat launch ramps. There are a few more public access areas
but I haven't really given it a detailed look. If the water were
warmer, I certainly would have. I'm acclimating, so maybe in a few
years I'll be ready for that chilly dip. I think it gets up to 53F
in the heat of summer. I haven't really looked into access in other
cities, but the park I love best (good curve for the jet boats in
the annual races) is in th ecounty with over half a mile of access
from a truck-accessible rocky
I helped a neighbor cut down some madrone stumps and brought home the
wood. It's now painted and will dry for eons before I can even think
of carving it. (my finger is healing nicely) <--obww
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[email protected] (Mike) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Your local birds have better manners than mine. A pair of mallards
> waddled up my driveway on Sunday evening and the female left a big
> present near the entrance to my gar^h^hshop. I hosed it off and then
> got the neighbor kids, who fed the ducks some bread. After the
> excitement was over, I walked back into my gar^h^hshop to find that
> the male had left his business right in the middle of the floor.
> They're very close to becoming dinner.
I always thought mallards were almost as bad as sh*thawks
(seagulls, Paddy) if they're tame. Thanks for confirming that. :-)
We get them on some local fishing waters, and wherever people have
fed them they become a real annoyance. They will literally come up
and try to steal anything you set down on the bank. Sometimes they'll
even chase fishing lures/flies.
If you do decide to make some duck soup, save the feathers for me.
They have lots of uses in fly-tying. :-)
Chuck Vance
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 21 Apr 2004 04:52:10 -0700, [email protected] (Conan the Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> [finches]
>
> > I guess I haven't listened *quite* that closely yet. :-) There
> >are several who hang out in the crepe myrtle tree right in front of
> >the garage, and they are a real kick to watch when they are playing
>
> Because you're so amused by them, I'll bet you have listened closer
> than you think but it didn't quite register.
Yeah, probably so. It's really about awareness and allowing
yourself to open up enough to let those sorts of things register with
you. Unfortunately, we are usually "tuned out".
Getting back into fly-fishing has been good for me in that regard.
Being out in pretty places and trying to fool fish with nothing more
than a handful of feathers or fur tied to a hook tends to get you
tuned in again. And it's not meat-fishing; you're on the water for
the whole experience, not just dragging home some dinner.
> That's because (having watched you in action) they know they're
> quite a bit faster than "that old, slow Neander."
Beats being an "old, slow Nahmite", no?
> > You know, I'm just starting to fully realize how much other stuff I
> >pay attention to when I'm supposed to be wooddorking. :-)
>
> Pra^H^H^HWorking silently in the House of Roy is like that.
> Yeah it is.
Deep, Lar ... very deep.
> [wasps attacking me while routahing]
>
> Routahs are truly karmic machines, aren't they?
I guess. Thankfully all of my karmas are still intact.
> >> Hear, hear!
> >
> > Where, where?
>
> There, there, of course. (You lauded charlieb's post.)
Yeah, I was actually intending to make a Firesign Theater reference
there, but I screwed it up. (I should have said "There, there" and
then you follow up with "Where, where".
Chuck Vance
Just say (tmPL) I think it was from _Don't Crush That Dwarf_ ...
maybe in the courtroom scene of Porgy and Mudhead.
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 27 Apr 2004 07:07:15 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> > Whoa, the Rogue is very well-known as a steelhead river. What town
> >are you near?
>
> I love steelhead, too. I'm in the county, officially Grants Pass, but
> halfway between there and the city of Rogue River. BTW, you ought to
> see the salmon up here. The overlook at one of the parks is directly
> on the river and you can see 30+ of them within a 30' circle swimming
> upstream in 6" deep water. Y'know, wade in, reach down, and take in
> dinner. ;)
So you've been down there with your net in hand? ;-)
> > Poor boy. You have to go all of 1/4 mile to get to the freaking
> >Rogue River. I really feel sorry for you.
>
> Roger on ACK of the neener.
Roger on the request for confirmation of a neener. Will confirm
once I hear that you have actually gotten into the water and dragged a
steelhead or salmon from there. :-)
> > So get some waders and a license, son. I can't believe you'd be
> >that close to fishing paradise and complain about a little cold water.
>
> Yeah, I've thought about it since trying steelhead.
Well get out there, man. Hell, here in Texas we stock trout just
so we can get a sense of what it's like, and you're right there in a
spot like that!
> > You could try that, but if it's a flyrod, it will be made for a
> >specific line weight that you'll need to match it with. Plus, it will
> >have a reel-seat and some ceramic "stripping guides" in the butt
> >section and snake guides further up towards the tip. I'm guessing
> >yours is really just "pole" for dangling bait in the water.
> > Not that there's anything wrong with that.
>
> Right. And who needs a $2,500 rod and reel to catch dinner?
> </fisherman's sacrilege>
Blasphemy! And on a
tool-collect^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hwoodworking group, no less!!
Chuck Vance
Just say (tmPL) The next thing you know, you'll be saying that
we don't need all of those fancy planes to surface wood.
On 27 Apr 2004 07:07:15 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> On 26 Apr 2004 16:59:41 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
>> brought forth from the murky depths:
>>
>> > What's the river you're thinking of fishing? I can probably get a
>> >firsthand report from the Usenet flyfishing group.
>>
>> The Rogue River runs about 300 yards south of me, about 50'
>> below my property.
>
> Whoa, the Rogue is very well-known as a steelhead river. What town
>are you near?
I love steelhead, too. I'm in the county, officially Grants Pass, but
halfway between there and the city of Rogue River. BTW, you ought to
see the salmon up here. The overlook at one of the parks is directly
on the river and you can see 30+ of them within a 30' circle swimming
upstream in 6" deep water. Y'know, wade in, reach down, and take in
dinner. ;)
> Poor boy. You have to go all of 1/4 mile to get to the freaking
>Rogue River. I really feel sorry for you.
Roger on ACK of the neener.
> So get some waders and a license, son. I can't believe you'd be
>that close to fishing paradise and complain about a little cold water.
Yeah, I've thought about it since trying steelhead.
>> > Bamboo is very cool. From the sound of it, you've got a rod used
>> >for "dapping" (i.e., taking bait or a fly, reaching to where you want
>> >to fish and dropping it down to the fish without casting). Bamboo
>> >rods for flyfishing are usually in the 7-8' range and would have a
>> >series of "snake guides" for casting a flyline.
>>
>> Since it's a 3-pc, I could use the two end pieces.
>
> You could try that, but if it's a flyrod, it will be made for a
>specific line weight that you'll need to match it with. Plus, it will
>have a reel-seat and some ceramic "stripping guides" in the butt
>section and snake guides further up towards the tip. I'm guessing
>yours is really just "pole" for dangling bait in the water.
> Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Right. And who needs a $2,500 rod and reel to catch dinner?
</fisherman's sacrilege>
>> Hey, I'm about ready to plant, too...
>
> Should be just the thing for t'maters.
I'm allergic to the Nightshade family. No more taters, maters,
chiles (EGAD!), and eggplant. I'll be growing cantaloupe, acorn
squash, broccoli, lemon and sweet basil, green beans, carrots,
radishes, okra, and whatever else I can fit into a 10x10' plot.
I had to top a red maple and will be carving it up with a chain
saw some day. (It hasn't made clear what it wants to be yet. I'll
probably leave the saw cord plugged in and carve while I trickle
water into the garden. I'm going with drip irrigation this year
since it worked so well in LoCal in my last lifetime.
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Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 3 May 2004 06:41:36 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
> > I'm a Nikon man from way back, so I'll take a look at it. I want
> >something that's small and won't go on the blink immediately when
> >exposed to high levels of humidity. (I.e., I'm not planning on
> >dunking it in the water, but there's a chance it will get splashed
> >on.)
>
> I haven't yet gone on the waterfall tour up here but might get a
> chance next weekend. The 995 worked fine at the wet end of the
> falls from the dam, but that was brief, maybe half an hour. I
> haven't extended exposure to much hummerditty.
Let me know how it goes. I want something that can be carried in a
fishing vest pocket. If it's awkward or bulky to carry I'll wind up
leaving it home. And if it isn't somewhat water-resistant, I'm afraid
it won't last very long.
> > That ain't a river, son. That's a sewer.
>
> Then why isn't it named the "Rio Caca"?
I don't know what the locals call it. (Actually, to be fair, SWMBO
and I spent a week in the Big Bend area recently, and it was
beautiful. In some places the river actually looks more like a
mountain stream than a big muddy river.)
> > If you want rivers, try the Pedernales, Guadalupe, Brazos,
> >Colorado, Neches, Blanco, San Antonio, Trinity, Comal, Pecos, San
> >Saba, Medina, Frio, Neches, Red, Sabine, La Vaca, Angelina, San Marcos
> >or Llano.
>
> Ooooh, did you say "Angelina"? She's beautiful and dangerous.
> (I know nothing of your river, but the character played by the
> blonde in "Romancing the Stone" was like that.)
Most of the rivers mentioned above are beautiful and dangerous. As
an example, I was out on the Pedernales a few weeks ago. We had some
storms in the area overnight, and I got out to the water about 8:00 in
the morning. The river was up a bit but running very clear. I fished
for an hour or so, and then at one point I stopped to change flies.
In the time it took me to pick a fly and tie it on, I noticed a change
in the sound of the river. (I thought it was the wind at first.)
When I looked up stream I could see the the floodwaters as they
approached. It wasn't quite a wall of water, but it looked like oil
on water as the previously calm river was overtaken by the dark brown
waves. It was the damnedest thing I've ever seen.
Within five minutes, the spot where I had been standing was
probably five feet underwater. I read on the USGS site later that the
flow had spiked from 100 c.f.s. to over 3000 c.f.s. on that morning.
(And that's not even the wildest surge in recent weeks. On April 6th
it went from 90 to 10,000. (Yes, that's 10K.))
Anyhow, many of the rivers are carved out of limestone and there's
not a lot of vegetation on the hills arond them. When it rains the
water finds the low spot and presto ... severe flash-flooding. After
watching it firsthand, I can see why many folks get killed when they
hit. I figured out was going on quickly and got back from the water,
but someone in a canoe or just not paying attention could have been in
trouble.
Let's see ... where were we? Oh yes: beautiful and dangerous. :-)
> > Er ... I'm not sure I wat to know.
>
> Luckily, I was checking the tension in the newly-sharpened blade I
> had just installed when I failed to raise my hand that extra 1/16"
> and the tip of my left bird finger caught one tooth. It neatly ripped
> a 1/16 x 1/16 x 3/8" long "chip" out of the tip. I don't think I want
> to see what a moving chain would do to human tissue/bone. That little
> stunt raised my awareness and respect for the chainsaw considerably.
> I won't be doing that again any time soon.
To me a chainsaw is the anti-Roy. Noisy, loud and dangerous.
> > But, if you have some spare madrone, I'd be happy to take some off
> >your hands.
>
> The neighbor next door (to the other side) is an almost-retired
> lumberjack and he regularly brings in large madrone logs to cut
> up for firewood. I think the growing trees are absolutely gorgeous,
> but folks around here think of them as firewood trees. So, one of
> these days, I'm going to White City to see if there are any small
> mills around who a) work with madrone and b) who will do QSW oak.
> I can order QSW in lots of 100+ bf for $4.50/bf from Portland,
> sight unseen, the next time I have an extra $450 lying around.
I expect you'll be sharing more wood gloats with us as you live
there for a while. Keep us posted (and send me some madrone).
Chuck Vance
On 3 May 2004 06:41:36 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> On 30 Apr 2004 05:02:48 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
>> brought forth from the murky depths:
>>
>> > Those aren't mutually exclusive, Lar. In fact, since I've gotten
>> >back into flyfishing I'm considering buying myself a decent digicam.
>> >I've got a good old Nikon F that's been my weapon of choice for 25
>> >years, but I need something a bit more portable than that.
>>
>> I picked up the Nikon Coolpix 995 a couple years ago and adore it.
>> (See, I can get both crowbars out at once for special occasions.)
>
> I'm a Nikon man from way back, so I'll take a look at it. I want
>something that's small and won't go on the blink immediately when
>exposed to high levels of humidity. (I.e., I'm not planning on
>dunking it in the water, but there's a chance it will get splashed
>on.)
I haven't yet gone on the waterfall tour up here but might get a
chance next weekend. The 995 worked fine at the wet end of the
falls from the dam, but that was brief, maybe half an hour. I
haven't extended exposure to much hummerditty.
> That ain't a river, son. That's a sewer.
Then why isn't it named the "Rio Caca"?
> If you want rivers, try the Pedernales, Guadalupe, Brazos,
>Colorado, Neches, Blanco, San Antonio, Trinity, Comal, Pecos, San
>Saba, Medina, Frio, Neches, Red, Sabine, La Vaca, Angelina, San Marcos
>or Llano.
Ooooh, did you say "Angelina"? She's beautiful and dangerous.
(I know nothing of your river, but the character played by the
blonde in "Romancing the Stone" was like that.)
> Jet boats? Hmmm ... must be kind of hard to keep your line in the
>water, no?
I understand that fishing is poor for the week of hydroplane racing.
It's nothing like the Miss Budweiser and her Unlimited Hydro pals on
the Sandy Eggo circuit, but it's fun. These are about 1/3 her size
and only half the noise. (but noisy enough at 80-90mph)
>> I helped a neighbor cut down some madrone stumps and brought home the
>> wood. It's now painted and will dry for eons before I can even think
>> of carving it. (my finger is healing nicely) <--obww
>
> Er ... I'm not sure I wat to know.
Luckily, I was checking the tension in the newly-sharpened blade I
had just installed when I failed to raise my hand that extra 1/16"
and the tip of my left bird finger caught one tooth. It neatly ripped
a 1/16 x 1/16 x 3/8" long "chip" out of the tip. I don't think I want
to see what a moving chain would do to human tissue/bone. That little
stunt raised my awareness and respect for the chainsaw considerably.
I won't be doing that again any time soon.
> But, if you have some spare madrone, I'd be happy to take some off
>your hands.
The neighbor next door (to the other side) is an almost-retired
lumberjack and he regularly brings in large madrone logs to cut
up for firewood. I think the growing trees are absolutely gorgeous,
but folks around here think of them as firewood trees. So, one of
these days, I'm going to White City to see if there are any small
mills around who a) work with madrone and b) who will do QSW oak.
I can order QSW in lots of 100+ bf for $4.50/bf from Portland,
sight unseen, the next time I have an extra $450 lying around.
> Chuck Vance (who used to live on a street called Trail of the
>Madrones, though there weren't actually any madrones there)
That's too bad. They're like overgrown manzanita with their
cocoa-brown skin showing through thin bark, and the leaves
remind me of rubber tree leaves. I hadn't seen them until I
moved up here, and they're all over the place. I pass a 30'
specimen on my road home and it glows in late afternoon sun.
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:31:08 -0500, Australopithecus scobis
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder) wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] (Conan the Librarian) writes:
-snip-
>You two memorized FST? But what about the elevator boy?
What elevator boy? "I'm from Nairobi, Maam. Isn't everyone?"
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:02:52 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> scribbled:
>On 23 Apr 2004 12:41:52 GMT, [email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder)
>brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] (Conan The Librarian) writes:
>>> [email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>>> OBWW: Don't grab that router, son, use your entrenching tool!
>>>
>>> I had no idea you were a FST-head, Dr. Thunder. :-)
>>
>>Well, I'm no keeper of the sacred tablets, but I believe I was the
>>first to call the wreck "Fort Stinkin' Desert."
>
>I think I beat you by a year, Doc.
>http://tinyurl.com/2mxkp
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=fort+stinkin+desert+group%3Arec.woodworking
>(neener, neener, neeeeeeener)
OK guys, I'll bite. What's FST & where are all those references from?
Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
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On 23 Apr 2004 12:41:52 GMT, [email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Conan The Librarian) writes:
>> [email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>> OBWW: Don't grab that router, son, use your entrenching tool!
>>
>> I had no idea you were a FST-head, Dr. Thunder. :-)
>
>Well, I'm no keeper of the sacred tablets, but I believe I was the
>first to call the wreck "Fort Stinkin' Desert."
I think I beat you by a year, Doc.
http://tinyurl.com/2mxkp
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=fort+stinkin+desert+group%3Arec.woodworking
(neener, neener, neeeeeeener)
>I have a colleague whose last name is Grubb. I swear, every time
>I see him I think "grubs again. grumble grumble grumble."
Send him in for Regrooving. <vbg>
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On 21 Apr 2004 04:52:10 -0700, [email protected] (Conan the Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> Finches are great little guys, aren't they? I love the quiet little
>> sounds they make. If you're quiet and know how to listen, they'll talk
>> to you on several different levels.
>
> I guess I haven't listened *quite* that closely yet. :-) There
>are several who hang out in the crepe myrtle tree right in front of
>the garage, and they are a real kick to watch when they are playing
Because you're so amused by them, I'll bet you have listened closer
than you think but it didn't quite register.
>around. They also seem totally unafraid of me; many times I'll walk
>into the house for a drink of water and when I come back out there'll
>be a couple sitting *inside* the garage on top of my wood storage
>shelves. :-)
That's because (having watched you in action) they know they're
quite a bit faster than "that old, slow Neander."
> You know, I'm just starting to fully realize how much other stuff I
>pay attention to when I'm supposed to be wooddorking. :-)
Pra^H^H^HWorking silently in the House of Roy is like that.
Yeah it is.
>> I strongly doubt that they'd come anywhere -near- a screaming routah
>> or table saur.
>
> But you'd be surprised what they attract. I think I posted
>sometime back that there was a wasp nest just outside the shop. I
>didn't bother them and they didn't bother me until one day I fired up
>my routah. Evidently they couldn't stand it, because they started
>divebombing me while I was using it. :-}
Routahs are truly karmic machines, aren't they?
>> Hear, hear!
>
> Where, where?
There, there, of course. (You lauded charlieb's post.)
>> chains for him, too. Anyway, I happily sneaked some Neander time
>> into my day.
>
> Yep, it's a Good Thing (tm).
Yuppers. I need to hook up some motorcycle tiedowns to the assy
bench so I can have a more solid worktop while I shape that
mantle. Both vises (mechanic's, with metal, wood, and leather
jaws + a 10" HF ww) I have are too high, so maybe I'll move the
ww vise to the assy table, too, then set up a board jack to go
with it for a temporary fix.
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On 22 Apr 2004 05:51:48 -0700, [email protected] (Conan the Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>> [finches]
> Yeah, probably so. It's really about awareness and allowing
>yourself to open up enough to let those sorts of things register with
>you. Unfortunately, we are usually "tuned out".
Si!
> Getting back into fly-fishing has been good for me in that regard.
>Being out in pretty places and trying to fool fish with nothing more
>than a handful of feathers or fur tied to a hook tends to get you
>tuned in again. And it's not meat-fishing; you're on the water for
>the whole experience, not just dragging home some dinner.
Yeah, fishing is a meditative sport when you're not up
against dozens of beer-swillin' "buddies".
>> That's because (having watched you in action) they know they're
>> quite a bit faster than "that old, slow Neander."
>
> Beats being an "old, slow Nahmite", no?
My old bones tell me to go for the dark side of the Force
as they creak any more. 'Tis indeed sad...
>> > You know, I'm just starting to fully realize how much other stuff I
>> >pay attention to when I'm supposed to be wooddorking. :-)
>>
>> Pra^H^H^HWorking silently in the House of Roy is like that.
>> Yeah it is.
>
> Deep, Lar ... very deep.
Do you remember that "Moms are like that" commercial?
>> [wasps attacking me while routahing]
>>
>> Routahs are truly karmic machines, aren't they?
>
> I guess. Thankfully all of my karmas are still intact.
Bien.
> Yeah, I was actually intending to make a Firesign Theater reference
>there, but I screwed it up. (I should have said "There, there" and
>then you follow up with "Where, where".
I would have handed you the pliers had I remembered that line.
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Conan the Librarian) writes:
>> >> Hear, hear!
>> >
>> > Where, where?
>>
>> There, there, of course. (You lauded charlieb's post.)
>
> Yeah, I was actually intending to make a Firesign Theater reference
> there, but I screwed it up. (I should have said "There, there" and
> then you follow up with "Where, where".
> Chuck Vance
> Just say (tmPL) I think it was from _Don't Crush That Dwarf_ ...
> maybe in the courtroom scene of Porgy and Mudhead.
Ahh, good ol' Commie Martyr High...
I believe what you're after was side B of Waiting for the Electrician,
though. (Hmmm... Is that a whiff of irony in the air?)
Don't you remember learning your next three words in Turkish?
It was during the Lord Kitchner/Kirshner introduction, IIRC.
The "Werewolf? There, wolf." schtick from Young Frankenstein
was good, too.
OBWW: Don't grab that router, son, use your entrenching tool!
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Conan The Librarian) writes:
> [email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> OBWW: Don't grab that router, son, use your entrenching tool!
>
> I had no idea you were a FST-head, Dr. Thunder. :-)
Well, I'm no keeper of the sacred tablets, but I believe I was the
first to call the wreck "Fort Stinkin' Desert."
I have a colleague whose last name is Grubb. I swear, every time
I see him I think "grubs again. grumble grumble grumble."
--
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Dept. of Mathematical Sciences
Northern Illinois Univ.
jthunder at math dot niu dot edu
In article <[email protected]>,
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> writes:
> Ever listen to the album "A Child's Garden of Grass"?
"Zipping is very quick. Unzipping seems to take forevvvvver."
OBWW (more for Chuck): Are the best flyrods still made of
tonkin cane?
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On 29 Apr 2004 05:52:39 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
> I'm not talking about going to the grocery store. Heck, we can buy
>the things in the store and they're probably only a couple of days
>older than what you can get. I'm talking about going out and catching
>the things yourself. (Damned city boys.)
I suppose I lived in polluted LoCal too long. I wouldn't eat a
locally caught fish since none of the streams were safe. I haven't
been fishing in well over 20 years. Besides, costs to gear up would
be the equivalent of 40 dinners worth of fish. That was a WAG, but
checking online, HOLY SH*T, BATMAN! Make that 200 meals!
http://www.a1flyfishing.com/products-simms.html#Waders
>> > Just say (tmPL) The next thing you know, you'll be saying that
>> >we don't need all of those fancy planes to surface wood.
>
>> I hope you never hear me utter those blasphemous words.
>
> Hope should have nothing to do with it, Lar.
True. I never see myself uttering those words.
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Larry Jaques responds:
>
>I suppose I lived in polluted LoCal too long. I wouldn't eat a
>locally caught fish since none of the streams were safe. I haven't
>been fishing in well over 20 years. Besides, costs to gear up would
>be the equivalent of 40 dinners worth of fish. That was a WAG, but
>checking online, HOLY SH*T, BATMAN! Make that 200 meals!
>http://www.a1flyfishing.com/products-simms.html#Waders
Yeah, but who goes fishing to eat? Take a sandwich if you do.
Fishing is a contest of smarts between the fish and the fisherperson. From what
I see, most of the time the fish wins, which may say a whole lot about human
intelligence, but probably doesn't. After all, a couple of my best friends are
fly fishermen.
Charlie Self
"I am confident that the Republican Party will pick a nominee that will beat
Bill Clinton." Dan Quayle
Charlie Self wrote:
> Yeah, but who goes fishing to eat? Take a sandwich if you do.
Thank you, Charlie for summing it up nicely.
> Fishing is a contest of smarts between the fish and the fisherperson. From what
> I see, most of the time the fish wins, which may say a whole lot about human
> intelligence, but probably doesn't. After all, a couple of my best friends are
> fly fishermen.
We all have our crosses to bear. :-)
As for human intelligence vs. fish: We pay hundreds of dollars for
gear, drive or fly hundreds or thousands of miles, all so we can
hip-deep in a cold stream waving around a graphite stick with a bunch of
feathers and fur strapped to a hook, hoping to catch something that
we're just gonna put back anyway.
At least the fish has the excuse that he doesn't have any choice in
the matter.
Chuck Vance
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On 29 Apr 2004 05:52:39 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>
>> I'm not talking about going to the grocery store. Heck, we can buy
>>the things in the store and they're probably only a couple of days
>>older than what you can get. I'm talking about going out and catching
>>the things yourself. (Damned city boys.)
>
> I suppose I lived in polluted LoCal too long. I wouldn't eat a
> locally caught fish since none of the streams were safe. I haven't
> been fishing in well over 20 years. Besides, costs to gear up would
> be the equivalent of 40 dinners worth of fish. That was a WAG, but
> checking online, HOLY SH*T, BATMAN! Make that 200 meals!
> http://www.a1flyfishing.com/products-simms.html#Waders
Next thing you know you'll be telling me that you woodwork to save
money on furniture.
As for those waders, you don't need to spend that much to get really
good waders. Simms is pretty much the top-of-the-line, but they offer
some fine ones for about $150. (BTW, if you do buy waders, get
breathable ones. Just trust me.)
http://www.flymartflyshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=simms-freestone-waders&Category_Code=waders
>> Hope should have nothing to do with it, Lar.
>
>
> True. I never see myself uttering those words.
Cool. Now if we can just teach you that fishing isn't about saving
money at the grocery store. :-)
Chuck Vance
[email protected] (Conan the Librarian) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > [little snip]
> >
> > Power tools hog off wood. With hand tools you sneak up on what you
> > want, watching
> > as you get closer and closer.
I think you can "sneak up" using power tools but I agree it's not as
rewarding.
> >And that attentativeness spills over into
> > noticing
> > other things - that dust dancing in the sunlight coming through the shop
> > window,
> > the jar of shellac on the window sill playing with the light as it
> > passes through
> > it.
....the quality of the task you're doing and the grain of the wood
rather than being consumed with making sure you don't lose
blood/fingers/etc.......
> Nicely said, charlieb. Along those lines, I work in my garage in a
> fairly rural neighborhood well away from any big towns. Many's the
> time that I've looked up from a neander job to see a deer or three
> standing almost within arm's reach. They look more curious than
> afraid. I also have a group of finches that hang out in a tree right
> by the garage, and I get to listen to them playing around and chasing
> each other while I'm working. Every once in a while I'll get a
> hummingbird drawn to the red release pull on my garage door.
Your local birds have better manners than mine. A pair of mallards
waddled up my driveway on Sunday evening and the female left a big
present near the entrance to my gar^h^hshop. I hosed it off and then
got the neighbor kids, who fed the ducks some bread. After the
excitement was over, I walked back into my gar^h^hshop to find that
the male had left his business right in the middle of the floor.
They're very close to becoming dinner.
Cheers,
Mike
On 22 Apr 2004 15:31:01 GMT, [email protected] (Jeffrey Thunder)
wrote:
>
>I believe what you're after was side B of Waiting for the Electrician,
I've waited for the electrician
but I usually get
"...someone like him."
(sigh)
>though. (Hmmm... Is that a whiff of irony in the air?)
>Don't you remember learning your next three words in Turkish?
Bath...
Towel...
Border.
>It was during the Lord Kitchner/Kirshner introduction, IIRC.
"he will not, nay, did not die in vain."
I say - Crush that dwarf.
On 23 Apr 2004 05:05:32 -0700, [email protected] (Conan The Librarian)
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> On 22 Apr 2004 05:51:48 -0700, [email protected] (Conan the Librarian)
>> brought forth from the murky depths:
>>
>> Yeah, fishing is a meditative sport when you're not up
>> against dozens of beer-swillin' "buddies".
>
> I've found that it's simple enough to avoid that. You just have to
>be willing to hike a bit. And I tend to fish rivers (streams,
>really), where I can wade to get to the best spots (or get away from
>Bubba).
I hear THAT. I don't fish and want to take my camera and tripod
into the woods up here. I just need to find and stay away from
the large plots of illegal shrubs (and their armed owners) so I
come -back- from the day trips. I'll take "A Reverence for Wood"
with me so I can identify all the trees out there. <--obww
> I'm not a fishing snob, but I just find that this style of fishing
>is more in line with my general world-view. If you think about it,
>flyfishing is more like neander wooddorking, while the bass boat
>bubbas are more akin to Nahm. (Boy, that oughta get a reaction. :-)
You say that as if you care. ;)
> I don't have any real physical infirmities, so I guess I'm lucky in
>that regard. And neandering helps keep the old bones from creaking
>too badly. (As well as maintaining my girlish figure.)
I have to fit my physicality into a window. Too little work and
I feel ancient. Too much work and what's left of me feels ancient.
When I'm feeling good, I overdo. When feeling bad, I underdo.
Creaky bones suck, and I'm just 51. But I've been feeling better
after following the Candida Diet. Losing 17 lbs didn't hurt, either.
Now to drop about 20 more...my knees will thank me at 183.
>> Do you remember that "Moms are like that" commercial?
>
> Nope, that one went right over my head.
So solly.
>> I would have handed you the pliers had I remembered that line.
>
> And another closet FST-head comes out.
Nah, I've always and openly been a Firesign buff.
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On 20 Apr 2004 10:45:20 -0700, [email protected] (Mike) wrote:
>[email protected] (Conan the Librarian) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>> > [little snip]
>> >
>> > Power tools hog off wood. With hand tools you sneak up on what you
>> > want, watching
>> > as you get closer and closer.
>
>I think you can "sneak up" using power tools but I agree it's not as
>rewarding.
>
>> >And that attentativeness spills over into
>> > noticing
>> > other things - that dust dancing in the sunlight coming through the shop
>> > window,
>> > the jar of shellac on the window sill playing with the light as it
>> > passes through
>> > it.
>
>....the quality of the task you're doing and the grain of the wood
>rather than being consumed with making sure you don't lose
>blood/fingers/etc.......
>
>> Nicely said, charlieb. Along those lines, I work in my garage in a
>> fairly rural neighborhood well away from any big towns. Many's the
>> time that I've looked up from a neander job to see a deer or three
>> standing almost within arm's reach. They look more curious than
>> afraid. I also have a group of finches that hang out in a tree right
>> by the garage, and I get to listen to them playing around and chasing
>> each other while I'm working. Every once in a while I'll get a
>> hummingbird drawn to the red release pull on my garage door.
>
>Your local birds have better manners than mine. A pair of mallards
>waddled up my driveway on Sunday evening and the female left a big
>present near the entrance to my gar^h^hshop. I hosed it off and then
>got the neighbor kids, who fed the ducks some bread. After the
>excitement was over, I walked back into my gar^h^hshop to find that
>the male had left his business right in the middle of the floor.
>They're very close to becoming dinner.
>
You have to be careful cooking wild mallards. They can be dry and
tough if you don't handle them right. If hanging doesn't appeal, you
might consider slow braising.
Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a
Capsizing under chute, and having the chute rise and fill without tangling, all while Mark and Sally are still behind you
Conan the Librarian wrote:
> You know, I'm just starting to fully realize how much other
> stuff I pay attention to when I'm supposed to be wooddorking.
> :-)
Yesterday I was working on a spice rack for SWMBO - had my Record
#80 in use for the first time in two decades. I looked up and saw
some thing I'd never seen before: a /social/ gathering of hawks
at the farm next door.
I didn't get a really good picture with the camera; but I'll post
it over on ABPW...
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DeSoto, Iowa USA