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Chipper

29/11/2005 4:45 PM

Frog Face Misalignment in new Stanley #4


I just bought a new Stanley #4 and after sharpening, noticed that the
Frog bed was substantially misaligned to the right. It required the
full swing of the lateral adjustment lever to compensate - thus
negating any real value to that lever. I know I'm not dropping $350
for the tool (okay, maybe just $40), but I would expect a little better
QC than that. Has anybody experienced this type of problem in the newer
Stanleys?


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Chipper


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LL

"Limey Lurker"

in reply to Chipper on 29/11/2005 4:45 PM

30/11/2005 12:11 PM

>Has anybody experienced this type of problem in the newer
>Stanleys?

Some time ago (I think it was my first ever post), I posted my comments
on the cr*p Stanley now turn out. It seems there's been no change!

f

in reply to Chipper on 29/11/2005 4:45 PM

30/11/2005 1:04 PM


Lawrence Wasserman wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Chipper <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >I just bought a new Stanley #4 and after sharpening, noticed that the
> >Frog bed was substantially misaligned to the right. It required the
> >full swing of the lateral adjustment lever to compensate - thus
> >negating any real value to that lever. I know I'm not dropping $350
> >for the tool (okay, maybe just $40), but I would expect a little better
> >QC than that. Has anybody experienced this type of problem in the newer
> >Stanleys?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Chipper
>
> I haven't had the frog off a Bailey that was any newer than about the
> early 60s, but if they haven't changed the design, you should be able
> to just loosen the 2 frog hold down scres and center the frog on the
> bed.
>

At the risk of pointing out ht eobvious I'll add that you need to
remove the
blade to access those two screws. They are the same screws that are
loosened to move the frog forward and back to adjust the width of
the mouth.

Further, when you do that it would be wise to take the frog off
entriely and
inspect it and the bed for defects in the fit and finish like burrs or
gobs
of paint or other crud that might be responsible for the crooked fit.
It
might also be a good idea to apply a little paste wax to the unpainted
surfaces of the frog and bed there is a tendency for sawdust and crud
to
accumulate in those areas, which seems to promote corrosion.

--

FF

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to Chipper on 29/11/2005 4:45 PM

30/11/2005 6:18 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Chipper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I just bought a new Stanley #4 and after sharpening, noticed that the
>Frog bed was substantially misaligned to the right. It required the
>full swing of the lateral adjustment lever to compensate - thus
>negating any real value to that lever. I know I'm not dropping $350
>for the tool (okay, maybe just $40), but I would expect a little better
>QC than that. Has anybody experienced this type of problem in the newer
>Stanleys?
>
>
>--
>Chipper

I haven't had the frog off a Bailey that was any newer than about the
early 60s, but if they haven't changed the design, you should be able
to just loosen the 2 frog hold down scres and center the frog on the
bed.


--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

As

Australopithecus scobis

in reply to Chipper on 29/11/2005 4:45 PM

07/12/2005 7:34 PM

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:45:53 +0000, Chipper wrote:

> It required the
> full swing of the lateral adjustment lever to compensate -

First, do the things the other guys mentioned.

Check that the cutting edge is square to the edge of the blade. You'll
find that the amount of lever travel you must apply is very sensitive to
the squareness of the blade.

Be finicky when you seat the blade and cap iron on the frog before
snapping down the lever cap. Feel the edge of the frog and the edge of the
blade with your finger tips. A little misalignment here will lead to woe.

Make sure you've attached the cap iron squarely. The lever rivet on my
contemporary #4 is a wee bit off center. The cap iron is a wee bit
narrower than the blade. Lining up the cap iron with the lever cancels
out both errors.

Make sure you're not sticking out too much blade. If the blade only
projects a couple of thous, it won't take too much lever action to square
it up.

Consider the adjustment lever to be a last resort. Do everything in your
power to square the blade with out the lever. Only then do you tweak the
lever for perfection.

YMMV
--
"Keep your ass behind you"


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