As most of you know I have been makinf cutting boards, mostly from oak. I
get my wood from machinery pallets. Most all of it is very rough and I have
to do some work to get a square and even surface to start from. once I get
the wood square then cut and glue it I find that even after 24 hours of
clamping my slabs seem to start to seperate. My question is this, is the
wood still "green" and the moisture content still to high or am I not
waiting long enough for the glue to dry? I also notice that if I put more
pressure on the clamp I get substantial glue squeeze out.
Thanks for your help
Rich
In article <[email protected]>, Mark
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Come on Silvan, we musent have style or personality. We must be bland so as
> not
> to offend the most sensitive among us.
As a bland and sensitive person I take offense at your statements and
ask you to please be even more bland and sensitive.
--
Is it time to change my sig line yet?
Rich wrote:
> Boy, I sure wish some of you in here wouldn't be too critical towards me,
> I am just learning. My crates come from food warehouses and John Deere
> Tractors. I had no idea about using oak for cutting boards. I now know why
> not to use oak. Thank you for letting me know.
Oh c'mon man, I was being serious with a silly touch, as has long been my
style. Everything from A to Z. Well, what could be on a pallet from A to
Z? Ant poison is a real possibility. Zebra urine is not so likely, but Z
is a hard letter. It was a play on those Centrum commercials. "Everything
from A to Zinc."
It's not like I made a personal attack and called you an idiot or anything.
I don't think you're an idiot at all, and it wasn't my intention to hurt
your feelings. I just didn't want you coming back in a few months telling
us about your brush with death and protracted hospital stay from the
horrible and rare disease you contracted as a result of having used one of
those cutting boards.
Use the oak for something else by all means. It's plenty good for any
number of other things, though, as you've discovered, you might need to let
it dry for a bit before it's stable enough to stay put. Get yourself some
more sutiable (ie closed-grained, *clean*) wood if you want to make cutting
boards. That way nobody gets sick, and you can keep wrecking wood and
hanging out on the Wreck for a long time.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
You could design some furniture with the John Deere green on it and start a
new craze. It might make your fortune. :-) After all, antique pine (used to
be trash wood) sells for $5/board foot.
I wonder what the beams they are salvaging from the old warehouses in
Galveston have on them?
"Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>snip. With my
> . . . .. .. .. and the John Deere stuff
> has inks stamps on it. >
> Thanks again
>
> Rich
>
>
I agree with the previous replies, and also, I wouldn't use oak for a
cutting board because it's too porous. Maple works very well. Walnut
and cherry are good too. You can mix them together and get
great-looking results.
"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I wouldn't use pallet wood for food; you can't tell where its been and
> what's been stored on it, like pesticides and chemicals. Like Rumpty
> suggests buy some clean wood.
> Ron
>
>
> "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > All pallet wood is green or partially air dried. Go buy some KD 1 or 2
> > common for your project.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rumpty
> >
> > Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> >
> > "Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > As most of you know I have been makinf cutting boards, mostly from oak.
> I
> > > get my wood from machinery pallets. Most all of it is very rough and I
> have
> > > to do some work to get a square and even surface to start from. once I
> get
> > > the wood square then cut and glue it I find that even after 24 hours of
> > > clamping my slabs seem to start to seperate. My question is this, is the
> > > wood still "green" and the moisture content still to high or am I not
> > > waiting long enough for the glue to dry? I also notice that if I put
> more
> > > pressure on the clamp I get substantial glue squeeze out.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Actually I would not use POROUS Oak for cutting boards either. A closed
grain wood would be more suitable and easier to proper clean.
"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I wouldn't use pallet wood for food; you can't tell where its been and
> what's been stored on it, like pesticides and chemicals. Like Rumpty
> suggests buy some clean wood.
> Ron
>
>
> "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > All pallet wood is green or partially air dried. Go buy some KD 1 or 2
> > common for your project.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rumpty
> >
> > Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> >
> > "Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > As most of you know I have been makinf cutting boards, mostly from
oak.
> I
> > > get my wood from machinery pallets. Most all of it is very rough and I
> > have
> > > to do some work to get a square and even surface to start from. once I
> get
> > > the wood square then cut and glue it I find that even after 24 hours
of
> > > clamping my slabs seem to start to seperate. My question is this, is
the
> > > wood still "green" and the moisture content still to high or am I not
> > > waiting long enough for the glue to dry? I also notice that if I put
> more
> > > pressure on the clamp I get substantial glue squeeze out.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
I know, it was an attack on you either, just a general comment. I look
forward to the criticism trust me. I am just learning the wood wrecking.
Sometimes it's just hard to differentiate (sp) how things are meant to sound
via wrriten word. Took me awhile to figure out that all caps is classified
as yelling.Thanks for letting me know about the stuff that could be on
pallets, that really never crossed my mind! I just though wood was wood, boy
I guess that comment could start a thread and a life of it's own. With my
steel mill pallets I do find alot of bearing grease and the John Deere stuff
has inks stamps on it. I do leanr alot from you guys.
Thanks again
Rich
In article <[email protected]>, "Rich" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I do appreciate the constructive criticism and learning that I have been
>recieving from you guys
>You bring up points that up till now I have not been aware of.
>\
>\Thanks again
>Rich
> PS, this troll guy keeps getting through with his crap. How many different
>way is he going to spell things?
>
See my sig...
If you're using Nfilter with my filter file, and the troll gets through, get a
new copy of the filters from my autoresponder. Install the new filter
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"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message>
> Oh c'mon man, I was being serious with a silly touch, as has long been my
> style. Everything from A to Z. Well, what could be on a pallet from A to
> Z? Ant poison is a real possibility. Zebra urine is not so likely, but Z
> is a hard letter. It was a play on those Centrum commercials.
"Everything
> from A to Zinc."
There is a lot of truth to this. Domestic pallets are not muchof a problem.
Imported goods on pallet are another matter though, as crate and pallet wood
must be certified free of insects, larva, etc. We import some materail and
when youopen the container is smells like a drum of Raid was spilled in it.
Could be Zebra urine for al I know, but I'd not use the wood for any food
applications. I have used the wood though. Let it sit for at least six
months to dry more as pallet wood is not usually top grade kiln dried stuff.
Ed
But, some are ahhhhh never mind.......
Rich <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, I know MOST of the people in here are helpful without being
sarcastic
> or just plain mean about things. \\
>
> Rich
>
>
They are just jealous cause you got better tools than they do - OR - you get
more free wood than they do.... hehehehe I'm still chuckling over ant
poison to zebra urine.... Wonder what they use that for?
"Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Boy, I sure wish some of you in here wouldn't be too critical towards me,
I
> am just learning. My crates come from food warehouses and John Deere
> Tractors. I had no idea about using oak for cutting boards. I now know why
> not to use oak. Thank you for letting me know.
>
> Rich
>
>
All pallet wood is green or partially air dried. Go buy some KD 1 or 2
common for your project.
--
Rumpty
Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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"Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As most of you know I have been makinf cutting boards, mostly from oak. I
> get my wood from machinery pallets. Most all of it is very rough and I
have
> to do some work to get a square and even surface to start from. once I get
> the wood square then cut and glue it I find that even after 24 hours of
> clamping my slabs seem to start to seperate. My question is this, is the
> wood still "green" and the moisture content still to high or am I not
> waiting long enough for the glue to dry? I also notice that if I put more
> pressure on the clamp I get substantial glue squeeze out.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Rich
>
>
"Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As most of you know I have been makinf cutting boards, mostly from oak. I
> get my wood from machinery pallets. Most all of it is very rough and I
have
> to do some work to get a square and even surface to start from. once I get
> the wood square then cut and glue it I find that even after 24 hours of
> clamping my slabs seem to start to seperate. My question is this, is the
> wood still "green" and the moisture content still to high or am I not
> waiting long enough for the glue to dry? I also notice that if I put more
> pressure on the clamp I get substantial glue squeeze out.
>
Most yellow glues only need to be under clamp pressure for an hour or so.
Then the joint should sit overnight before it is stressed. As others
suggest, I would just get some new wood!
Frank
Rich wrote:
> As most of you know I have been makinf cutting boards, mostly from oak. I
> get my wood from machinery pallets. Most all of it is very rough and I
I work in the trucking industry, and let me just reinforce what has already
been said. If you use pallet wood for food, you're out of your freakin'
mind. There could be ANYTHING on that wood, from ant poison to zebra urine.
The point I haven't heard mentioned is your choice of woods more generally.
Oak for cutting boards? Conventional wisdom says that's a poor choice.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
I wouldn't use pallet wood for food; you can't tell where its been and
what's been stored on it, like pesticides and chemicals. Like Rumpty
suggests buy some clean wood.
Ron
"Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> All pallet wood is green or partially air dried. Go buy some KD 1 or 2
> common for your project.
>
> --
>
> Rumpty
>
> Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>
> "Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > As most of you know I have been makinf cutting boards, mostly from oak.
I
> > get my wood from machinery pallets. Most all of it is very rough and I
> have
> > to do some work to get a square and even surface to start from. once I
get
> > the wood square then cut and glue it I find that even after 24 hours of
> > clamping my slabs seem to start to seperate. My question is this, is the
> > wood still "green" and the moisture content still to high or am I not
> > waiting long enough for the glue to dry? I also notice that if I put
more
> > pressure on the clamp I get substantial glue squeeze out.
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
>
>
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 03:04:09 GMT, "Rich" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Well, I know MOST of the people in here are helpful without being sarcastic
>or just plain mean about things. \\
Growing a thicker skin is a small price to pay for admission to the
largest free database on the planet. I'm still learning this, and
I've been online since the days of dialing a rotary phone and setting
the handset into a modem cradle to connect to bulletin boards.
In the snow. Uphill. Both ways. ;>
Don't sweat the small stuff, you'll be just fine.
Michael
<Rod Serling mode>
Sure seems like that was back around the Carter era, when it was
actually as recent as the early Clinton years...
</Rod Serling mode>
You're almost always going to get attacked by someone on a newsgroup -
any newsgroup. Among other things, they're called flamers. And them
and the single-digit I.Q. profanity posters are part of price you pay
for the knowledge you can get on this groups.
Ignore both and you'll be OK.
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:12:20 GMT, "Rich" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Boy, I sure wish some of you in here wouldn't be too critical towards me, I
>am just learning. My crates come from food warehouses and John Deere
>Tractors. I had no idea about using oak for cutting boards. I now know why
>not to use oak. Thank you for letting me know.
>
>Rich
>
Camel urine was used at one time to patina copper topped buildings.
Puff
"Mark Hopkins" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> They are just jealous cause you got better tools than they do - OR - =
you get
> more free wood than they do.... hehehehe I'm still chuckling over ant
> poison to zebra urine.... Wonder what they use that for?
>=20
> "Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Boy, I sure wish some of you in here wouldn't be too critical =
towards me,
> I
> > am just learning. My crates come from food warehouses and John Deere
> > Tractors. I had no idea about using oak for cutting boards. I now =
know why
> > not to use oak. Thank you for letting me know.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
>=20
>
Silvan wrote:
> Rich wrote:
>
>
>>Boy, I sure wish some of you in here wouldn't be too critical towards me,
>>I am just learning. My crates come from food warehouses and John Deere
>>Tractors. I had no idea about using oak for cutting boards. I now know why
>>not to use oak. Thank you for letting me know.
>
>
> Oh c'mon man, I was being serious with a silly touch, as has long been my
> style.
Come on Silvan, we musent have style or personality. We must be bland so as not
to offend the most sensitive among us.
Bullshit.
> .... Well, what could be on a pallet from A to
> Z? Ant poison is a real possibility. Zebra urine is not so likely, but Z
> is a hard letter. It was a play on those Centrum commercials. "Everything
> from A to Zinc."
Having worked in shipping and receiving I can say A to Z is not an
understatement. Common carriers and cartage companies carry everything. I've
seen 'substances' on the floor of about every trailer I've been in. Packages
rupture regularly. I've also had materials pass through the department that I
knew were mis-marked (such is the nature of government contractors). Then there
is the dust from tow motor tires that have driven through the plant picking up
God knows what.
I once received a shipment of slightly leaking sacks on a pallet marked with
Scull and Cross Bones and also marked 'food grade'.
Mayhaps you don't even want to be near the sawdust from some pallets.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens, A.K.A.
Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the suspense.
(Gaz, r.moto)
Mark wrote:
> Mayhaps you don't even want to be near the sawdust from some pallets.
I don't like working in the back of these trucks either. We haul furniture,
but our trailers are all recycled. There's no telling what's in that
omnipresent dust. Every time I let a box drop too quickly, I get engulfed
in a cloud.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:27:37 -0200, "Puff Griffis" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Camel urine was used at one time to patina copper topped buildings.
>Puff
How the heck did they get the camels on top of the buildings?