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"philly45"

30/11/2003 2:58 AM

Laminate Counter Top Question

I want to build a counter top using a laminate covering. Once I cut out the
wood in the dimension that I need for the top, I want to cover it with
laminate but have never done this before. What is the best approach for
sizing, applying and trimming the laminate? Should I cut it oversized and
use a tool to trim it? What's the best way to apply the side piece so that
I get a nice edge? Is a router the correct tool for doing the trimming?

Do I apply the top piece, trim it to size, then apply the side piece? If
that is the right sequence, how do I control the butt joint between the too
pieces of laminate?

I also would like pointers on how to layout the dimension for a curved edge
for one corner of the counter top. That is, the overall shape of the
counter top is rectangular with one of the four corners curved.

Can anyone recommend a good book that would cover the processes I need to
use for this project?

philly45


This topic has 13 replies

gG

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

30/11/2003 3:06 AM

Generally you put the side on, trim it flush, then put on the top. This covers
the side joint. The only decion then is whether yiu want a bevel edge or a
flush edge

rR

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

01/12/2003 12:24 PM

A couple of tips -(DAMHIKIT) Be super careful to remove all dust, etc from
both the counter surface and the back side of the laminate before applying
cotact cement, and check again before mating the surfaces. Even the smallest of
pieces will telegraph through the laminate when it's pressed down Also, don't
use the water-based contact cement. While it doesn't have the fumes of the
solvent based, it also doesn't seem to have the long term holding power. My
counter tops started to de-laminate after about 4-5 years. Could just be my
application method, but I wouldn't risk it again.

Ron

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

03/12/2003 1:25 AM

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:24:43 +0000, Jerry Gilreath wrote:

> I know this is O/T, but just what does DAMHIKIT mean?

http://www.hightechbuzzwords.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?find=DAMHIKT

-Doug

JG

"Jerry Gilreath"

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

03/12/2003 2:38 AM

Thanks Doug, but......

There is presently no record of DAMHIKIT being used in any high-tech area as
an acronym.
"How come?"
-- Is it possible that DAMHIKIT is not an acronym?
Perhaps DAMHIKIT is the name of a company or a propriety term. Of course,
it's possible we just haven't caught-up with the geek on this one as yet.
:-(

However, the hightechbuzzwords.com crew will, specifically, investigate
DAMHIKIT in the very near future.
Another high-tech acronym or abbreviation search?

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"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:24:43 +0000, Jerry Gilreath wrote:
>
> > I know this is O/T, but just what does DAMHIKIT mean?
>
> http://www.hightechbuzzwords.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?find=DAMHIKT
>
> -Doug

JG

"Jerry Gilreath"

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

03/12/2003 2:42 AM

Crap! Totally my mistake. As the refs say coming back from an instant
replay, upon further review....
DAMHIKT most likely stands for:
DAMHIKT = don't ask me how i know this (im)
The acronym in the (parentheses) points to what, or to which high-tech area,
DAMHIKT is associated with.
"It doesn't seem right!"
Color me red!!! Now, if I would just learn how to read, and then correctly
spell what I just read, my life would be so much better! I guess it's true,
copy and paste are your friends! Thanks again.

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Jerry© The Phoneman®
"Jerry Gilreath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:A0czb.8842$_M.35222@attbi_s54...
> Thanks Doug, but......
>
> There is presently no record of DAMHIKIT being used in any high-tech area
as
> an acronym.
> "How come?"
> -- Is it possible that DAMHIKIT is not an acronym?
> Perhaps DAMHIKIT is the name of a company or a propriety term. Of course,
> it's possible we just haven't caught-up with the geek on this one as yet.
> :-(
>
> However, the hightechbuzzwords.com crew will, specifically, investigate
> DAMHIKIT in the very near future.
> Another high-tech acronym or abbreviation search?
>
> --
> This space for rent.
> Jerry© The Phoneman®
> "Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:24:43 +0000, Jerry Gilreath wrote:
> >
> > > I know this is O/T, but just what does DAMHIKIT mean?
> >
> > http://www.hightechbuzzwords.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?find=DAMHIKT
> >
> > -Doug
>
>

KJ

"Ken Johnsen"

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

03/12/2003 12:16 AM

You're lucky. I couldn't get the water based to even adhere. After an hour
it still wasn't tacky, just wet. Temp & humidity were OK. solvent based
worked great

"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Rkola) wrote...
> > A couple of tips -(DAMHIKIT) Be super careful to remove all dust, etc
from
> > both the counter surface and the back side of the laminate before
applying
> > cotact cement, and check again before mating the surfaces. Even the
smallest of
> > pieces will telegraph through the laminate when it's pressed down
Also, don't
> > use the water-based contact cement. While it doesn't have the fumes of
the
> > solvent based, it also doesn't seem to have the long term holding power.
My
> > counter tops started to de-laminate after about 4-5 years. Could just be
my
> > application method, but I wouldn't risk it again.
> >
> > Ron
>
> Nothing wrong with the water based contact cement. I suspect "operator
> error". I've used it for more than 10 years and 100's of tops with
> zero problems. I believe it is a superior product if used correctly.
>
> Mike

DB

"David Babcock"

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

30/11/2003 1:50 PM

I clicked on the link and get four blank gray pages?

Dave

"BobGramza" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://purnews.org:81/homerhome/howTo/InstallLaminateCountertop.pdf
> "philly45" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I want to build a counter top using a laminate covering. Once I cut out
> the
> > wood in the dimension that I need for the top, I want to cover it with
> > laminate but have never done this before. What is the best approach for
> > sizing, applying and trimming the laminate? Should I cut it oversized
and
> > use a tool to trim it? What's the best way to apply the side piece so
> that
> > I get a nice edge? Is a router the correct tool for doing the trimming?
> >
> > Do I apply the top piece, trim it to size, then apply the side piece?
If
> > that is the right sequence, how do I control the butt joint between the
> too
> > pieces of laminate?
> >
> > I also would like pointers on how to layout the dimension for a curved
> edge
> > for one corner of the counter top. That is, the overall shape of the
> > counter top is rectangular with one of the four corners curved.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a good book that would cover the processes I need
to
> > use for this project?
> >
> > philly45
> >
> >
>
>

pp

"philly45"

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

30/11/2003 3:19 AM

Thanks Greg. Is a router the right tool for the trimming? What bit type
should I consider?

philly45
"Greg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Generally you put the side on, trim it flush, then put on the top. This
covers
> the side joint. The only decion then is whether yiu want a bevel edge or a
> flush edge

jM

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

01/12/2003 9:11 PM

[email protected] (Rkola) wrote...
> A couple of tips -(DAMHIKIT) Be super careful to remove all dust, etc from
> both the counter surface and the back side of the laminate before applying
> cotact cement, and check again before mating the surfaces. Even the smallest of
> pieces will telegraph through the laminate when it's pressed down Also, don't
> use the water-based contact cement. While it doesn't have the fumes of the
> solvent based, it also doesn't seem to have the long term holding power. My
> counter tops started to de-laminate after about 4-5 years. Could just be my
> application method, but I wouldn't risk it again.
>
> Ron

Nothing wrong with the water based contact cement. I suspect "operator
error". I've used it for more than 10 years and 100's of tops with
zero problems. I believe it is a superior product if used correctly.

Mike

rR

in reply to [email protected] (Mike) on 01/12/2003 9:11 PM

02/12/2003 1:07 PM

Thanks for the input - I only used it the one time, and it held up fine for
several years. Not sure what I might have done wrong, except I used only one
coat on the plywood substrate. Maybe a second coat, to allow for some
absorbtion? The delamination is pretty random, but all on edges.

Ron

pp

"philly45"

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

30/11/2003 4:15 AM

Thanks Bob for the help.

philly45
"BobGramza" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://purnews.org:81/homerhome/howTo/InstallLaminateCountertop.pdf
> "philly45" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I want to build a counter top using a laminate covering. Once I cut out
> the
> > wood in the dimension that I need for the top, I want to cover it with
> > laminate but have never done this before. What is the best approach for
> > sizing, applying and trimming the laminate? Should I cut it oversized
and
> > use a tool to trim it? What's the best way to apply the side piece so
> that
> > I get a nice edge? Is a router the correct tool for doing the trimming?
> >
> > Do I apply the top piece, trim it to size, then apply the side piece?
If
> > that is the right sequence, how do I control the butt joint between the
> too
> > pieces of laminate?
> >
> > I also would like pointers on how to layout the dimension for a curved
> edge
> > for one corner of the counter top. That is, the overall shape of the
> > counter top is rectangular with one of the four corners curved.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a good book that would cover the processes I need
to
> > use for this project?
> >
> > philly45
> >
> >
>
>

JG

"Jerry Gilreath"

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

03/12/2003 1:24 AM

I know this is O/T, but just what does DAMHIKIT mean?

--
This space for rent.
Jerry© The Phoneman®
"Ken Johnsen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You're lucky. I couldn't get the water based to even adhere. After an hour
> it still wasn't tacky, just wet. Temp & humidity were OK. solvent based
> worked great
>
> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] (Rkola) wrote...
> > > A couple of tips -(DAMHIKIT) Be super careful to remove all dust, etc
> from
> > > both the counter surface and the back side of the laminate before
> applying
> > > cotact cement, and check again before mating the surfaces. Even the
> smallest of
> > > pieces will telegraph through the laminate when it's pressed down
> Also, don't
> > > use the water-based contact cement. While it doesn't have the fumes
of
> the
> > > solvent based, it also doesn't seem to have the long term holding
power.
> My
> > > counter tops started to de-laminate after about 4-5 years. Could just
be
> my
> > > application method, but I wouldn't risk it again.
> > >
> > > Ron
> >
> > Nothing wrong with the water based contact cement. I suspect "operator
> > error". I've used it for more than 10 years and 100's of tops with
> > zero problems. I believe it is a superior product if used correctly.
> >
> > Mike
>
>

Bb

"BobGramza"

in reply to "philly45" on 30/11/2003 2:58 AM

30/11/2003 3:48 AM

http://purnews.org:81/homerhome/howTo/InstallLaminateCountertop.pdf
"philly45" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I want to build a counter top using a laminate covering. Once I cut out
the
> wood in the dimension that I need for the top, I want to cover it with
> laminate but have never done this before. What is the best approach for
> sizing, applying and trimming the laminate? Should I cut it oversized and
> use a tool to trim it? What's the best way to apply the side piece so
that
> I get a nice edge? Is a router the correct tool for doing the trimming?
>
> Do I apply the top piece, trim it to size, then apply the side piece? If
> that is the right sequence, how do I control the butt joint between the
too
> pieces of laminate?
>
> I also would like pointers on how to layout the dimension for a curved
edge
> for one corner of the counter top. That is, the overall shape of the
> counter top is rectangular with one of the four corners curved.
>
> Can anyone recommend a good book that would cover the processes I need to
> use for this project?
>
> philly45
>
>


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