We've finally decided to give up on compressor driven HVLP guns and
move to turbine unit. I know everyone has a different idea od which
is "best". As much as I'm happy to here your opinions on brand,
please shed a little light on any other features to look for.
We spray a lot of water-based poly. I wouldn't consider anything
smaller than a 3 stage, but is a 4 stage necessary? What about needle
size? We argue about this in the shop daily. Anyone have any
fact-backed reason for recommending a needle size for spraying
water-based poly?
I've been looking at the turbinaire, accuspray, and fuji. The
turbinaire is very nice and the accessory kit with all the needle and
nozzles is choice. I havent looked at Titan, or wagner. My local
professional tool retailer has the 3 stage CH for $400. that's so
cheap i could buy two, but is it any good. I dont mind spending $1000
- $2000. I just dont want to spend it on the wrong unit.
All help and opinions are welcomed and appreciated
I have the Fuji Q3 and spray WB dye, shellac and WB poly. I use the #3
setup that came standard with the unit and have no problem atomizing the
poly with less than full air. I bought the #4 nozzle setup just in
case, but it's still in the bag.
JGS wrote:
> Hi RG,
> I have the Turbinaire unit and I like it. The acessory kit is required.
> However, on my unit the needles/nozzles and some of the innards are made
> of brass which is not recommended for WB products. Apparently the newer
> units have or will have SS parts. Cheers, JG
>
> RemodGuy wrote:
>
>
>>We've finally decided to give up on compressor driven HVLP guns and
>>move to turbine unit. I know everyone has a different idea od which
>>is "best". As much as I'm happy to here your opinions on brand,
>>please shed a little light on any other features to look for.
>>
>>We spray a lot of water-based poly. I wouldn't consider anything
>>smaller than a 3 stage, but is a 4 stage necessary? What about needle
>>size? We argue about this in the shop daily. Anyone have any
>>fact-backed reason for recommending a needle size for spraying
>>water-based poly?
>>
>>I've been looking at the turbinaire, accuspray, and fuji. The
>>turbinaire is very nice and the accessory kit with all the needle and
>>nozzles is choice. I havent looked at Titan, or wagner. My local
>>professional tool retailer has the 3 stage CH for $400. that's so
>>cheap i could buy two, but is it any good. I dont mind spending $1000
>>- $2000. I just dont want to spend it on the wrong unit.
>>
>>All help and opinions are welcomed and appreciated
>
>
--
LFW
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Hi RG,
I have the Turbinaire unit and I like it. The acessory kit is required.
However, on my unit the needles/nozzles and some of the innards are made
of brass which is not recommended for WB products. Apparently the newer
units have or will have SS parts. Cheers, JG
RemodGuy wrote:
> We've finally decided to give up on compressor driven HVLP guns and
> move to turbine unit. I know everyone has a different idea od which
> is "best". As much as I'm happy to here your opinions on brand,
> please shed a little light on any other features to look for.
>
> We spray a lot of water-based poly. I wouldn't consider anything
> smaller than a 3 stage, but is a 4 stage necessary? What about needle
> size? We argue about this in the shop daily. Anyone have any
> fact-backed reason for recommending a needle size for spraying
> water-based poly?
>
> I've been looking at the turbinaire, accuspray, and fuji. The
> turbinaire is very nice and the accessory kit with all the needle and
> nozzles is choice. I havent looked at Titan, or wagner. My local
> professional tool retailer has the 3 stage CH for $400. that's so
> cheap i could buy two, but is it any good. I dont mind spending $1000
> - $2000. I just dont want to spend it on the wrong unit.
>
> All help and opinions are welcomed and appreciated
[email protected] (RemodGuy) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> We've finally decided to give up on compressor driven HVLP guns and
> move to turbine unit. I know everyone has a different idea od which
> is "best". As much as I'm happy to here your opinions on brand,
> please shed a little light on any other features to look for.
>
I recently got the Wagner 2600 from Amazon for $479. Some of the
positive features are: It's a 3-stage, has an insulated handle, a
durable 20' hose, non-bleeder gun, top and bottom hose connections,
easily adjustable air cap, fluid and air supply can be finely
adjusted. It's my first gun, though and I've only gotten to use it
about 8 times. An article in American Woodworker mag. (July 2003)
rated 22 HVLP turbine units priced under $600 and the 2600 got the
"best buy", and the Titan TS40 got the "Editor's Choice". One thing I
really like is that cleaning it is so fast and easy. I haven't
sprayed any WB yet, but I have sprayed 'heavy' material. I spray a
Sherwin-Williams industrial enamel. Unthinned viscosity cup time was
4min-45sec, thinned 15% dropped the time to 45 seconds. It goes on
decent in cooler weather, and great at 75 deg.
>
> I've been looking at the turbinaire, accuspray, and fuji. The
> turbinaire is very nice and the accessory kit with all the needle and
> nozzles is choice. I havent looked at Titan, or wagner. My local
> professional tool retailer has the 3 stage CH for $400.
If money were no object, I'd have gotten one of the big-3 myself. I'd
stay away from the CH.
Good Luck
Larr
The Turbinaire has pressure feed.
William Lee
"gene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (RemodGuy) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > We've finally decided to give up on compressor driven HVLP guns and
> > move to turbine unit. I know everyone has a different idea od which
> > is "best". As much as I'm happy to here your opinions on brand,
> > please shed a little light on any other features to look for.
> >
> > We spray a lot of water-based poly. I wouldn't consider anything
> > smaller than a 3 stage, but is a 4 stage necessary? What about needle
> > size? We argue about this in the shop daily. Anyone have any
> > fact-backed reason for recommending a needle size for spraying
> > water-based poly?
> >
> > I've been looking at the turbinaire, accuspray, and fuji. The
> > turbinaire is very nice and the accessory kit with all the needle and
> > nozzles is choice. I havent looked at Titan, or wagner. My local
> > professional tool retailer has the 3 stage CH for $400. that's so
> > cheap i could buy two, but is it any good. I dont mind spending $1000
> > - $2000. I just dont want to spend it on the wrong unit.
> >
> > All help and opinions are welcomed and appreciated
>
> Get one with pressure feed!
No, a four stage isn't necessary for water based lacquer or varnish and the
needle/nozzle combination sold with a three stage is usually the one that
will work with those products as well as other common wood finishes and
stains.
If you've already been spraying you probably already are aware of it but
proper needle/nozzle does not mean that some thinning isn't required. Be
sure whatever you get includes a viscosity cup and at least guidelines as to
what should do what when using the cup. .
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"RemodGuy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We've finally decided to give up on compressor driven HVLP guns and
> move to turbine unit. I know everyone has a different idea od which
> is "best". As much as I'm happy to here your opinions on brand,
> please shed a little light on any other features to look for.
>
> We spray a lot of water-based poly. I wouldn't consider anything
> smaller than a 3 stage, but is a 4 stage necessary? What about needle
> size? We argue about this in the shop daily. Anyone have any
> fact-backed reason for recommending a needle size for spraying
> water-based poly?
>
> I've been looking at the turbinaire, accuspray, and fuji. The
> turbinaire is very nice and the accessory kit with all the needle and
> nozzles is choice. I havent looked at Titan, or wagner. My local
> professional tool retailer has the 3 stage CH for $400. that's so
> cheap i could buy two, but is it any good. I dont mind spending $1000
> - $2000. I just dont want to spend it on the wrong unit.
>
> All help and opinions are welcomed and appreciated
"L. Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<28J_b.49163$Xp.238731@attbi_s54>...
> I have the Fuji Q3 and spray WB dye, shellac and WB poly. I use the #3
> setup that came standard with the unit and have no problem atomizing the
> poly with less than full air. I bought the #4 nozzle setup just in
> case, but it's still in the bag.
>
>
>
Do you know what the size of that #3 needle is?
[email protected] (RemodGuy) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> We've finally decided to give up on compressor driven HVLP guns and
> move to turbine unit. I know everyone has a different idea od which
> is "best". As much as I'm happy to here your opinions on brand,
> please shed a little light on any other features to look for.
>
> We spray a lot of water-based poly. I wouldn't consider anything
> smaller than a 3 stage, but is a 4 stage necessary? What about needle
> size? We argue about this in the shop daily. Anyone have any
> fact-backed reason for recommending a needle size for spraying
> water-based poly?
>
> I've been looking at the turbinaire, accuspray, and fuji. The
> turbinaire is very nice and the accessory kit with all the needle and
> nozzles is choice. I havent looked at Titan, or wagner. My local
> professional tool retailer has the 3 stage CH for $400. that's so
> cheap i could buy two, but is it any good. I dont mind spending $1000
> - $2000. I just dont want to spend it on the wrong unit.
>
> All help and opinions are welcomed and appreciated
Get one with pressure feed!