Hello, the brand name is shop vac on this and i guess i should of
explained it better to the jokesters this is the first time i used the
vac so it hasn't been used in water the filter that is on it is a foam
filter around the motor bottom the dust i am talking about is i tore
down some paster and lathe that is the dust i am talking about plus i
have noticed it in wood dust also the dust is coming from the blow hole
and from the top of the motor where the cord would wrap around so does
everyone agree that i need this hepa filter or what would work the best
for me i don't mind a little dust as i am sure we all get but this is
bad dust and i have one comment to make to the guy who said my writeing
is a carma thing i am sorry about that this is just how i write your
comment was hurtful and had nothing to do with what i was asking thanks
to the ones that are helping
GARAGE OWL wrote:
> Hello, can any one give me ideas on this i bought a new shop vac and
> when i am vaccing up dust there is always a cloud around it i am talking
> bad after useing it the dust is worse than if i never used it i mean in
> the air and all over everything any ideas the dust is coming out of the
> blow hole thanks
My suggestion would be to see if there is a "CleanStream" filter available
for your particular vacuum. See:
http://www.cleanstreamfilters.com/filters_.html
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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Keith Carlson wrote:
> Have you used yours vacuuming liquids with the filter on? They show that on
> the Cleanstream website.
Yes, but not intentionally.
> I think my shop vac manual says to take the filter off when vacuuming
> liquids.
The standard filters are paper. Liquids will destroy a standard filter. The
CleanStream is Gortex. Water doesn't hurt it. In fact I clean it by flushing
it out with a garden hose.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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The standard shop vaccum filter that comes on many new machines allows the
very fine shop dust you are complaining about to pass through the vaccum and
exit back into the air in the vaccum's exhaust streem. The "cloud around
it" is this very fine dust. A "CleanStream" after market filter will stop
much of this very fine dust from passing through the vaccum. I have been
very pleased with how well one of these filters works on my shop vaccum. I
think you will be pleased also if you buy one.
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> GARAGE OWL wrote:
>
> > Hello, can any one give me ideas on this i bought a new shop vac and
> > when i am vaccing up dust there is always a cloud around it i am talking
> > bad after useing it the dust is worse than if i never used it i mean in
> > the air and all over everything any ideas the dust is coming out of the
> > blow hole thanks
>
> My suggestion would be to see if there is a "CleanStream" filter available
> for your particular vacuum. See:
>
> http://www.cleanstreamfilters.com/filters_.html
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
You should read the directions and get the paper filter over that foam
jobbie. Yours should have come with one, and the ring which you use to seal
it around the foam.
The foam alone is for wet pickup (and gross filtration) only.
"GARAGE OWL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello, the brand name is shop vac on this and i guess i should of
> explained it better to the jokesters this is the first time i used the
> vac so it hasn't been used in water the filter that is on it is a foam
> filter around the motor bottom the dust i am talking about is i tore
> down some paster and lathe that is the dust i am talking about plus i
> have noticed it in wood dust also the dust is coming from the blow hole
> and from the top of the motor where the cord would wrap around so does
> everyone agree that i need this hepa filter or what would work the best
> for me i don't mind a little dust as i am sure we all get but this is
> bad dust and i have one comment to make to the guy who said my writeing
> is a carma thing i am sorry about that this is just how i write your
> comment was hurtful and had nothing to do with what i was asking thanks
> to the ones that are helping
>
Beyond a scientific doubt, but I wonder that the increased resistance of the
foam might not stress the suction too much.
Then there's the ability to shake/brush off the paper versus the PITA of
rinsing and drying the foam, lest it ruin the paper, ....
"Joe Willmann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> From a filtration point it is generally better to pull air through
multiple
> levels of filtering where the first level gets the biggest stuff then
> through finer filter levels. With a shop vac they do it the other way.
> The put the worst filter, the foam one on then put the paper filter over
> that.
>
> I have never thought about it but does anyone turn it around? Put the
> paper filter on first then the foam one over that? It actually seams to
> make more sense. And the paper filters should last longer too.
If you don't mind being tied down a bit, connect an elbow and enough 2"
ABS drain pipe from the blow hole on the vac to reach outdoors through
the door or window while you vacuum the shop. That blows the fine stuff
outdoors.
Another solution which is better: Get a good cyclone dust collector system
that gets the dust when you create it, keeps your shop clean, and you get
to breathe clean air. Helps avoid asthma, cancer, emphysema, and a bunch
of other bad things that can happen if you breathe wood dust. Bill Pentz
nearly died from wood dust, and he had a regular dust collector PLUS a
respirator! He has built a very good web site on dust collection at
http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
Included on that site is the design for one of the best cyclone systems
on the planet. I have exclusive license to manufacture units based on
that design, and have a kit and matching blower housing currently in
production. Details are at
http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/ClarkesKits.cfm
The kit I produce is well received as indicated at
http://www.digitalnetworks.ca/~stevecater/wood/links.htm
where there is also a picture of an assembled unit being installed.
Wood dust in a shop is not something to be treated lightly! It can
literally kill you if you breathe it, and it is a known carcinogen
(causes cancer).
Clarke
GARAGE OWL wrote:
>
> Hello, can any one give me ideas on this i bought a new shop vac and
> when i am vaccing up dust there is always a cloud around it i am talking
> bad after useing it the dust is worse than if i never used it i mean in
> the air and all over everything any ideas the dust is coming out of the
> blow hole thanks
"GARAGE OWL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello, the brand name is shop vac on this and i guess i should of
> explained it better to the jokesters this is the first time i used the
> vac so it hasn't been used in water the filter that is on it is a foam
> filter around the motor bottom the dust i am talking about is i tore
> down some paster and lathe that is the dust i am talking about plus i
> have noticed it in wood dust also the dust is coming from the blow hole
> and from the top of the motor where the cord would wrap around so does
> everyone agree that i need this hepa filter or what would work the best
> for me i don't mind a little dust as i am sure we all get but this is
> bad dust and i have one comment to make to the guy who said my writeing
> is a carma thing i am sorry about that this is just how i write your
> comment was hurtful and had nothing to do with what i was asking thanks
> to the ones that are helping
>
Cleanstream filters are available for some ShopVacs. I've used them for
drywall sanding and pickup with good results.
GARAGE OWL wrote:
> Hello, can any one give me ideas on this i bought a new shop vac and
> when i am vaccing up dust there is always a cloud around it i am talking
> bad after useing it the dust is worse than if i never used it i mean in
> the air and all over everything any ideas the dust is coming out of the
> blow hole thanks
Depending on the brand, you may be able to pick up a HEPA filter at the borg
which will correct this problem. My Shop Vac was doing the same thing until I
replaced the crappy foam filter with the HEPA; no more dust out the top.
BTW, have you tried using the outlet as a source of blow air? I was very
pleasantly surprised how powerful the breeze was when I connected the hose to
the outlet rather than the inlet... it allows me to blow crap right on out of
the garage as well as my dedicated gasoline powered leaf blower.
I bought a Ridgid "muffler" for the top of the vacuum some time ago. Although I
continue to use it, I don't know that it really does much. I'd save the money
if I had to do it again.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
And if you're cleaning up drywall dust, you might need to upgrade the bag to
a higher-efficiency type to keep from just pumping the drywall dust out the
exhaust. DAMHIKT.
todd
"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You should read the directions and get the paper filter over that foam
> jobbie. Yours should have come with one, and the ring which you use to
seal
> it around the foam.
>
> The foam alone is for wet pickup (and gross filtration) only.
>
> "GARAGE OWL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello, the brand name is shop vac on this and i guess i should of
> > explained it better to the jokesters this is the first time i used the
> > vac so it hasn't been used in water the filter that is on it is a foam
> > filter around the motor bottom the dust i am talking about is i tore
> > down some paster and lathe that is the dust i am talking about plus i
> > have noticed it in wood dust also the dust is coming from the blow hole
> > and from the top of the motor where the cord would wrap around so does
> > everyone agree that i need this hepa filter or what would work the best
> > for me i don't mind a little dust as i am sure we all get but this is
> > bad dust and i have one comment to make to the guy who said my writeing
> > is a carma thing i am sorry about that this is just how i write your
> > comment was hurtful and had nothing to do with what i was asking thanks
> > to the ones that are helping
> >
>
>
Nova <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> My suggestion would be to see if there is a "CleanStream" filter
> available for your particular vacuum. See:
>
> http://www.cleanstreamfilters.com/filters_.html
>
I bought one for my shopvac at sears (it is a cleanstream) I ordered
through the web, but they needed a supervisor to find the thing, since the
box has a cleanstream SKU, and no Sears SKU. Because it took more than 5
min to get it after I came to claim it, I asked for and got a $5
certificate for my next purchase. I like Sears ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
"George" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> You should read the directions and get the paper filter over that foam
> jobbie. Yours should have come with one, and the ring which you use
> to seal it around the foam.
>
> The foam alone is for wet pickup (and gross filtration) only.
From a filtration point it is generally better to pull air through multiple
levels of filtering where the first level gets the biggest stuff then
through finer filter levels. With a shop vac they do it the other way.
The put the worst filter, the foam one on then put the paper filter over
that.
I have never thought about it but does anyone turn it around? Put the
paper filter on first then the foam one over that? It actually seams to
make more sense. And the paper filters should last longer too.
There is a key on your keyboard that has a little dot on it. It's called a
period. These are commonly used to indicate the end of a sentence. I suggest
you use it. If this hurts your feelings, I am sorry, but you obviously don't
have a clue how difficult it is to read your posts. It may be the "way you
write", but it indicates that you really don't give a rip about those who
might try to read your posts in an effort to help.
"GARAGE OWL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello, the brand name is shop vac on this and i guess i should of
> explained it better to the jokesters this is the first time i used the
> vac so it hasn't been used in water the filter that is on it is a foam
> filter around the motor bottom the dust i am talking about is i tore
> down some paster and lathe that is the dust i am talking about plus i
> have noticed it in wood dust also the dust is coming from the blow hole
> and from the top of the motor where the cord would wrap around so does
> everyone agree that i need this hepa filter or what would work the best
> for me i don't mind a little dust as i am sure we all get but this is
> bad dust and i have one comment to make to the guy who said my writeing
> is a carma thing i am sorry about that this is just how i write your
> comment was hurtful and had nothing to do with what i was asking thanks
> to the ones that are helping
>
Ummm...this may be a stupid question, but you DO have the cap on the "blow
hole" when you are vacuuming don't you? My shop vac actually exhausts the
air down towards the bottom of the vac. The "blow hole" has a cap on it that
you remove when you want to use it as a blower.
"GARAGE OWL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello, can any one give me ideas on this i bought a new shop vac and
> when i am vaccing up dust there is always a cloud around it i am talking
> bad after useing it the dust is worse than if i never used it i mean in
> the air and all over everything any ideas the dust is coming out of the
> blow hole thanks
>
GARAGE OWL wrote:
> Hello, can any one give me ideas on this i bought a new shop vac and
> when i am vaccing up dust there is always a cloud around it i am
> talking bad after useing it the dust is worse than if i never used it
> i mean in the air and all over everything any ideas the dust is
> coming out of the blow hole thanks
put the filter on
Gary
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> GARAGE OWL wrote:
>
> > Hello, can any one give me ideas on this i bought a new shop vac and
> > when i am vaccing up dust there is always a cloud around it i am talking
> > bad after useing it the dust is worse than if i never used it i mean in
> > the air and all over everything any ideas the dust is coming out of the
> > blow hole thanks
>
> My suggestion would be to see if there is a "CleanStream" filter available
> for your particular vacuum. See:
>
> http://www.cleanstreamfilters.com/filters_.html
Definitely! The best money I ever spent on my ShopVac® was a Cleanstream®
filter. No dust gets through, it doesn't plug up anywhere near as quickly as
the paper/foam, and you can clean it by knocking the dirt off, brushing it
off, or blowing it out with an air gun.
--
Nahmie
Those who know the least will always know it the loudest.
Have you used yours vacuuming liquids with the filter on? They show that on
the Cleanstream website.
I think my shop vac manual says to take the filter off when vacuuming
liquids.
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> GARAGE OWL wrote:
>
> > Hello, can any one give me ideas on this i bought a new shop vac and
> > when i am vaccing up dust there is always a cloud around it i am talking
> > bad after useing it the dust is worse than if i never used it i mean in
> > the air and all over everything any ideas the dust is coming out of the
> > blow hole thanks
>
> My suggestion would be to see if there is a "CleanStream" filter available
> for your particular vacuum. See:
>
> http://www.cleanstreamfilters.com/filters_.html
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
the foam filter is for wet vacuuming. take it off and install a bag.
the bags can probably be bought where you bought the vacuum, though
not all stores that sell the vacuums sell the bags.
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:03:39 -0600 (CST), [email protected] (GARAGE
OWL) wrote:
>Hello, the brand name is shop vac on this and i guess i should of
>explained it better to the jokesters this is the first time i used the
>vac so it hasn't been used in water the filter that is on it is a foam
>filter around the motor bottom the dust i am talking about is i tore
>down some paster and lathe that is the dust i am talking about plus i
>have noticed it in wood dust also the dust is coming from the blow hole
>and from the top of the motor where the cord would wrap around so does
>everyone agree that i need this hepa filter or what would work the best
>for me i don't mind a little dust as i am sure we all get but this is
>bad dust and i have one comment to make to the guy who said my writeing
>is a carma thing i am sorry about that this is just how i write your
>comment was hurtful and had nothing to do with what i was asking thanks
>to the ones that are helping