There's some interesting news from Fred Langa's newsletter this morning that
should have AOL users up in arm's. AOL is now snooping into your email and
deleting it before it even gets to you if the email has a URL that matches
one in their database as being one of the so called "bad guy's". Fred goes
on to explain how his newsletter is blocked by AOL simply because a few
readers blocked his letter rather than unsubscribe. AOL reads your private
blocked list and then if they find that 10 AOL members have blocked an
address, it's then placed on a master list and no one using AOL will receive
the email.
Knowing that Charlie Self is an AOL user and that I've had problems sending
him a couple of emails in the past, I sent him an email this morning (which
he didn't get) telling him to read the attached page from the newsletter. A
moment later I got a Mail Delivery Subsystem from AOL. Below is an extract
from that email minus the address info.........
" ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
(reason: 554-: (HVU:B1) The URL contained in your email to AOL members has
generated a high volume of compla...licited Bulk Email policies, AOL will no
longer accept email with the URL contained in your message.)"
So even a simple email with a >> reference << to a site will cause the email
to be discarded! Proof enough that AOL is doing exactly what Fred Langa and
others are describing.
Here's the link to Fred Langa's site where you can read the newsletter for
yourself.
http://www.langa.com/newsletters/2004/2004-04-19.htm
I use RoadRunner which is part of AOL/Time Warner - gotta wonder how long it
will be before they start their Big Brother routine on this service.
Bob S.
On 2004/4/19 4:34 PM, "Tom" <[email protected]> wrote:
> This has got to be a joke, right?
> Someday, it'll all be over....
You're an AOL user and you have to ask if this is a joke? I left AOL years
ago and have never regretted it.
I have been with AOL since 92 and I dont trust them either but the two errors
described are probably not AOL's doing.
First, they strip email from images but the reader can download them simply
by checking a button.
As to automatic deletion, that is a preference that can be set as part of
9.0 as it can be with many other providers. AOL users do have a SPAM file which
shows all the URL's and addresses that have been placed there...and blocked.
As I say, I blindly assume AOL is at fault if there is a problem...with
these two problems there are other areas to look.
They also tend to strip off embedded images and external links. We send out
newletters from our business and the AOL receipients usually don't get all
the images.
"Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There's some interesting news from Fred Langa's newsletter this morning
that
> should have AOL users up in arm's. AOL is now snooping into your email
and
> deleting it before it even gets to you if the email has a URL that matches
> one in their database as being one of the so called "bad guy's". Fred
goes
> on to explain how his newsletter is blocked by AOL simply because a few
> readers blocked his letter rather than unsubscribe. AOL reads your
private
> blocked list and then if they find that 10 AOL members have blocked an
> address, it's then placed on a master list and no one using AOL will
receive
> the email.
>
> Knowing that Charlie Self is an AOL user and that I've had problems
sending
> him a couple of emails in the past, I sent him an email this morning
(which
> he didn't get) telling him to read the attached page from the newsletter.
A
> moment later I got a Mail Delivery Subsystem from AOL. Below is an
extract
> from that email minus the address info.........
>
> " ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> (reason: 554-: (HVU:B1) The URL contained in your email to AOL members
has
> generated a high volume of compla...licited Bulk Email policies, AOL will
no
> longer accept email with the URL contained in your message.)"
>
> So even a simple email with a >> reference << to a site will cause the
email
> to be discarded! Proof enough that AOL is doing exactly what Fred Langa
and
> others are describing.
>
> Here's the link to Fred Langa's site where you can read the newsletter for
> yourself.
>
> http://www.langa.com/newsletters/2004/2004-04-19.htm
>
> I use RoadRunner which is part of AOL/Time Warner - gotta wonder how long
it
> will be before they start their Big Brother routine on this service.
>
> Bob S.
>
>
Bernie Hunt responds:
>They also tend to strip off embedded images and external links. We send out
>newletters from our business and the AOL receipients usually don't get all
>the images.
>
>
>"Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> There's some interesting news from Fred Langa's newsletter this morning
>that
>> should have AOL users up in arm's. AOL is now snooping into your email
>and
>> deleting it before it even gets to you if the email has a URL that matches
>> one in their database as being one of the so called "bad guy's". Fred
>goes
>> on to explain how his newsletter is blocked by AOL simply because a few
>> readers blocked his letter rather than unsubscribe. AOL reads your
>private
>> blocked list and then if they find that 10 AOL members have blocked an
>> address, it's then placed on a master list and no one using AOL will
>receive
>> the email.
I'm not sure that's the way it goes. I didn't get Bob's email, but if he'd been
in my address book, it would have come through. AOL is using the damned address
book as a designator of who gets by and who doesn't, with some ludicrous
results, IMO.
At the moment, I'm in no position to change over, so am stuck with it for
probably 2-3 more months.
Maybe, just maybe, if I get back to where I belong by then, I'll get my own
website, with mailboxes, set up.
Bob: See if you can munge your email address in a manner that I can translate,
and I'll stick it in my mailbox. Anyone else having problems getting through to
me, do the same.
Charlie Self
"Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a
pleasure." Ambrose Bierce
charliediy wrote:
>Bob: See if you can munge your email address in a manner that I can
>translate,
>and I'll stick it in my mailbox. Anyone else having problems getting through
>to
>me, do the same.
>
Just fine. Got 2 copies of it to read now.
Charlie Self
"Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a
pleasure." Ambrose Bierce
Charlie ...
<<I'm not sure that's the way it goes. I didn't get Bob's email, but if he'd
been
in my address book, it would have come through. AOL is using the damned
address
book as a designator of who gets by and who doesn't, with some ludicrous
results, IMO.>>
A particular headache for all of us Comcast users who used to be with ATT
Broadband. Lots of AOL users still have us in their address books with our
old attbi.com addresses. For the rest of this year, mail addressed to
attbi.com still gets delivered to the comcast.com addressee. But when we
try to reply from our present comcast.com addresses, they don't match what's
in the AOL user's address book and are subject to blocking.
So, a reminder to everyone: go though your address books and change any
attbi.com entries to comcast.com so your friends can still get through to
you (& vice versa).
Lee
--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
Charlie,
I don't think (but could be wrong) that the email was rejected because of my
address not being on your list. The returned error message stated it was
because of the URL. I may not be on your list but a couple of months ago I
had sent you an email - and you answered. But then again, about 3 weeks ago
you were asking for some links for antique pictures of woodworking tools and
I sent you an email that you did not respond to.
So here's a test:
1. I will send an email to you that has a subject line of "Meeting on 27 Apr
04" with nothing but me email address in the body.
2. A second email, same subject line with Fred Langa's URL in the body.
See which gets thru if any.
Bob S.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bernie Hunt responds:
>
> >They also tend to strip off embedded images and external links. We send
out
> >newletters from our business and the AOL receipients usually don't get
all
> >the images.
> >
> >
> >"Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> There's some interesting news from Fred Langa's newsletter this morning
> >that
> >> should have AOL users up in arm's. AOL is now snooping into your email
> >and
> >> deleting it before it even gets to you if the email has a URL that
matches
> >> one in their database as being one of the so called "bad guy's". Fred
> >goes
> >> on to explain how his newsletter is blocked by AOL simply because a few
> >> readers blocked his letter rather than unsubscribe. AOL reads your
> >private
> >> blocked list and then if they find that 10 AOL members have blocked an
> >> address, it's then placed on a master list and no one using AOL will
> >receive
> >> the email.
>
> I'm not sure that's the way it goes. I didn't get Bob's email, but if he'd
been
> in my address book, it would have come through. AOL is using the damned
address
> book as a designator of who gets by and who doesn't, with some ludicrous
> results, IMO.
>
> At the moment, I'm in no position to change over, so am stuck with it for
> probably 2-3 more months.
>
> Maybe, just maybe, if I get back to where I belong by then, I'll get my
own
> website, with mailboxes, set up.
>
> Bob: See if you can munge your email address in a manner that I can
translate,
> and I'll stick it in my mailbox. Anyone else having problems getting
through to
> me, do the same.
>
>
> Charlie Self
> "Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself
a
> pleasure." Ambrose Bierce