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"Baalrog"

16/04/2004 3:45 PM

Kitchen Worktop Jig

Hi all
Does anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced jig, I will
probably only use it once or twice hence unwilling to pay too much for it
and does anyone have good advice on using it? I expect if I can get one I
will practice on excess material first , but I would appreciate any advice
(especially any instructions) on using this type of Jig,,
PS I am fairly new to this but please bear with me , I know it is a tricky
operation but I am willing to try it.
--
Regards Ron...........


This topic has 20 replies

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

17/04/2004 8:41 AM

Jigs are usually found between Reels and Hornpipes.
For a 'kitchen worktop' one, the best I can find is:

I'm Polly the scullery maid.
I'm Polly the Scullery maid!
I scrubbed through the finish...
It was stained by some spinach.

I'm Polly the Scullery Maid. {toot][toot]

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

16/04/2004 9:30 PM

Ummm did you understand what kind of jig he is looking for???

"Frank McVey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> If you're in UK,
>
> www.screwfix.com
>
> Cheers
>
> Frank
>

b

in reply to "Leon" on 16/04/2004 9:30 PM

17/04/2004 12:03 AM

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:37:28 +0100, "gandalf" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Fri, Apr 16, 2004, 9:30pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Leon)
>> asks:
>> Ummm did you understand what kind of jig he is looking for???
>>
>> Not at all. But that's still not gonna stop some people from
>> advising him.
>>
>-----------
>If he is in the UK the advice was good.
>
>http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=12497&ts=58507
>


he must be. I haven't the slightest idea what he's talking about,
trying to parse his question using USA terminology....

even looking at that jig (which I'd call a template) on the screwfix
site I still haven't a clue.


umm... anybody care to clue us here in the US in?

thanks
Bridger

JJ

in reply to "Leon" on 16/04/2004 9:30 PM

16/04/2004 6:21 PM

Fri, Apr 16, 2004, 9:30pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Leon)
asks:
Ummm did you understand what kind of jig he is looking for???

Not at all. But that's still not gonna stop some people from
advising him.

JOAT
I will feel equality has arrived when we can elect to office women who
are as unqualified as some of the men who are already there.
- Maureen Reagan

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to "Leon" on 16/04/2004 9:30 PM

17/04/2004 7:38 PM

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:36:23 +0100, "gandalf" <[email protected]>
scribbled:

>So how do you guys fit these kitchen worktops?

Get them cut & edged at the local borg or a kitchen cabinet supplier.
(90, 45 or 22.5 degree cuts only) They'll also do the mortises for the
bolts. Caulking along the back to hide the gap along the wall if it's
not straight/square.

Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html

gg

"gandalf"

in reply to "Leon" on 16/04/2004 9:30 PM

17/04/2004 12:37 AM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fri, Apr 16, 2004, 9:30pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Leon)
> asks:
> Ummm did you understand what kind of jig he is looking for???
>
> Not at all. But that's still not gonna stop some people from
> advising him.
>
-----------
If he is in the UK the advice was good.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=12497&ts=58507

gg

"gandalf"

in reply to "Leon" on 16/04/2004 9:30 PM

17/04/2004 6:36 PM


"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> >umm... anybody care to clue us here in the US in?
>
> The guy is looking for a jig/fixture to rout Tite Joint
> fasteners.
>
---------
It does a little more than that. See:
http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/library/Instruction_Manuals/combi1002man.pdf

If you just want a jig/fixture for the connectors you can get one quite cheaply,
only then it's called a template. No I don't know why (over here it's customary
to blame any strange quirks in our language on the French)

The all singing all dancing jigs (whatever) are not aimed at the DIYer as you
seldom fit a new kitchen for yourself. So they are very robust and designed to
survive a long life with tradesman. (who will probably do a much better job than
most DIYers anyway)

So how do you guys fit these kitchen worktops?

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "Leon" on 16/04/2004 9:30 PM

17/04/2004 11:41 AM

Bridger:
>he must be. I haven't the slightest idea what he's talking about,
>trying to parse his question using USA terminology....

Part of the problem is in the BritSpeak. There's an
assumption made by the speaker/writer (the UKer) that the
lack of werds and Inglish aren't a hinderance to us here in
the colonies. Of course the same is true of some people
this side of the 'Lantic but it's usually hidden in between
them telling their life story when asking a simple question
like, "How do I bring two counter tops together using a
hidden fastener?"

>even looking at that jig (which I'd call a template) on the screwfix
>site I still haven't a clue.

Technically it's a jig though the line between jig and
fixture does cloud/gray (grey David) a wee bit from time to
time/item to item.

>umm... anybody care to clue us here in the US in?

The guy is looking for a jig/fixture to rout Tite Joint
fasteners.

http://www.mcfaddens.com/Catalogue/Industrial_Hardware/KV516_517.htm

By The Way: Tite Joint fasteners are a pretty good
substitute for barrel nuts when making things like a fixing
between bed rails and bed posts. If the puny diameter
scares you it's simply a matter of upping the screw (bolt)
size and using T-nuts. My Go To Hell Door Bench is put
together with 3/8" hex head cap screws and T-nuts and it's
rock solid. The best part though is the bench can be broken
down into a top, two ends and a couple of back rails and
transported easily and reassembled without any great strain.

UA100

Br

"Baalrog"

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

17/04/2004 10:42 AM

-
"Baalrog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all
> Does anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced jig, I will
> probably only use it once or twice hence unwilling to pay too much for it
> and does anyone have good advice on using it? I expect if I can get one I
> will practice on excess material first , but I would appreciate any advice
> (especially any instructions) on using this type of Jig,,
> PS I am fairly new to this but please bear with me , I know it is a tricky
> operation but I am willing to try it.
> --
> Regards Ron...........
>
> To all our friends across the "Pond" yes its a routing template to aid in
the fitting of kitchen worktops, making a neat mitre / routing the clamp
bolt groves etc!
Regards Ron...........

FM

"Frank McVey"

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

16/04/2004 8:08 PM

Hi,

If you're in UK,

www.screwfix.com

Cheers

Frank


"Baalrog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all
> Does anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced jig, I will
> probably only use it once or twice hence unwilling to pay too much for it
> and does anyone have good advice on using it? I expect if I can get one I
> will practice on excess material first , but I would appreciate any advice
> (especially any instructions) on using this type of Jig,,
> PS I am fairly new to this but please bear with me , I know it is a tricky
> operation but I am willing to try it.
> --
> Regards Ron...........
>
>


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FM

"Frank McVey"

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

17/04/2004 11:08 AM

Of course, Leon. A kitchen worktop jig is a routing template which normally
allows kitchen worktops to be jointed in an L, T or U configuration. It
basically forms a butt joint, but the short 45 degree-angled section of the
main slot cuts the rounded nose of the worktop into a neat "mason's mitre"
in the corner.

The dumbell-shaped slots in the template are used for inletting the special
bolts used for tightly pulling the joint together.

They're very common here in UK, and I find it hard to believe that you don't
have something similar in the US. You probably call them something else. A
nation who would call an inlet patch repair a "Dutchman" is capable of
anything :)))

Cheers the noo!

Frank


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ummm did you understand what kind of jig he is looking for???
>
> "Frank McVey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > If you're in UK,
> >
> > www.screwfix.com
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Frank
> >
>
>


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gg

"gandalf"

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

17/04/2004 6:11 PM


"Baalrog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all
> Does anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced jig, I will
> probably only use it once or twice hence unwilling to pay too much for it
> and does anyone have good advice on using it? I expect if I can get one I
> will practice on excess material first , but I would appreciate any advice
> (especially any instructions) on using this type of Jig,,
> PS I am fairly new to this but please bear with me , I know it is a tricky
> operation but I am willing to try it.
----------
Here is a manual on how to use one:
http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/library/Instruction_Manuals/combi66man.pdf

Trend do three flavours of this beastie and with their usual modesty they claim
they are the best in the world. That they may be but they are also probably the
most expensive in the world. See range here:
http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/combijigs/

The Trend site is very handy even if you can't afford their kit as they have
manuals and guides on how to use all their stuff. Home Page:
http://www.trendmachinery.co.uk/homepage2003/

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

20/04/2004 8:32 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 08:41:40 +0000, [email protected]
>(Robert Bonomi) brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>>Jigs are usually found between Reels and Hornpipes.
>>For a 'kitchen worktop' one, the best I can find is:
>>
>>I'm Polly the scullery maid.
>>I'm Polly the Scullery maid!
>>I scrubbed through the finish...
>>It was stained by some spinach.
>>
>>I'm Polly the Scullery Maid. {toot][toot]
>
>Crikey, Bawb, have you found (& gotten into) Tawm's stash?
>

Close, but no Seegar.


Somebody else suggested that Olive Oyl might help.

Br

"Baalrog"

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

17/04/2004 3:28 PM

Good on ya Frank!

--
Regards Ron...........
"Frank McVey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Of course, Leon. A kitchen worktop jig is a routing template which
normally
> allows kitchen worktops to be jointed in an L, T or U configuration. It
> basically forms a butt joint, but the short 45 degree-angled section of
the
> main slot cuts the rounded nose of the worktop into a neat "mason's mitre"
> in the corner.
>
> The dumbell-shaped slots in the template are used for inletting the
special
> bolts used for tightly pulling the joint together.
>
> They're very common here in UK, and I find it hard to believe that you
don't
> have something similar in the US. You probably call them something else.
A
> nation who would call an inlet patch repair a "Dutchman" is capable of
> anything :)))
>
> Cheers the noo!
>
> Frank
>
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Ummm did you understand what kind of jig he is looking for???
> >
> > "Frank McVey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > If you're in UK,
> > >
> > > www.screwfix.com
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
>

FK

"Frank Ketchum"

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

17/04/2004 1:53 AM


"Baalrog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all
> Does anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced jig, I will
> probably only use it once or twice hence unwilling to pay too much for it
> and does anyone have good advice on using it? I expect if I can get one I
> will practice on excess material first , but I would appreciate any advice
> (especially any instructions) on using this type of Jig,,
> PS I am fairly new to this but please bear with me , I know it is a tricky
> operation but I am willing to try it.

What operation? What kind of jig?

Please note that to us a jig is something entirely different than a jig saw.

Frank

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

17/04/2004 9:44 AM

Baalrog wrote:

>>To all our friends across the "Pond" yes its a routing template to aid in
>
> the fitting of kitchen worktops, making a neat mitre / routing the clamp
> bolt groves etc!

Ron...

If you'll send me a DXF of the template (er... jig) I'll send you
the jig cut out of tempered hardboard - almost certainly not as
durable as the £99 version; but certainly good for "once or twice".

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

17/04/2004 7:48 AM

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 08:41:40 +0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) brought forth from the murky depths:

>Jigs are usually found between Reels and Hornpipes.
>For a 'kitchen worktop' one, the best I can find is:
>
>I'm Polly the scullery maid.
>I'm Polly the Scullery maid!
>I scrubbed through the finish...
>It was stained by some spinach.
>
>I'm Polly the Scullery Maid. {toot][toot]

Crikey, Bawb, have you found (& gotten into) Tawm's stash?


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b

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

16/04/2004 10:57 PM

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:45:17 +0100, "Baalrog"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi all
> Does anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced jig, I will
>probably only use it once or twice hence unwilling to pay too much for it
>and does anyone have good advice on using it? I expect if I can get one I
>will practice on excess material first , but I would appreciate any advice
>(especially any instructions) on using this type of Jig,,
>PS I am fairly new to this but please bear with me , I know it is a tricky
>operation but I am willing to try it.



can you describe in more detail what it you are trying to do?

tT

in reply to [email protected] on 16/04/2004 10:57 PM

17/04/2004 7:03 AM

I believe the "jig in question" is a routing template to allow fasteners to
attach two 45 degree mitres(kitchen countertops, etc.). I'm learnin' everyday.
Tom
Someday, it'll all be over....

Br

"Baalrog"

in reply to "Baalrog" on 16/04/2004 3:45 PM

26/04/2004 6:34 AM

hahah sooo funny! (not)

--
Regards Ron...........
"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 08:41:40 +0000, [email protected]
> >(Robert Bonomi) brought forth from the murky depths:
> >
> >>Jigs are usually found between Reels and Hornpipes.
> >>For a 'kitchen worktop' one, the best I can find is:
> >>
> >>I'm Polly the scullery maid.
> >>I'm Polly the Scullery maid!
> >>I scrubbed through the finish...
> >>It was stained by some spinach.
> >>
> >>I'm Polly the Scullery Maid. {toot][toot]
> >
> >Crikey, Bawb, have you found (& gotten into) Tawm's stash?
> >
>
> Close, but no Seegar.
>
>
> Somebody else suggested that Olive Oyl might help.


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