I do not monitor this group on a regular basis. Please
excuse me if this subject has been discussed before.
Watching Norm Abrams' show on TV, a couple of time he has
referred to the width of a sheet of plywood. He says that a
piece 3/4 of an inch thick these days is about 1/32 of an
inch off.
Comparing my regular ruler with a metric scale, I see the
difference between 3/4" and 2cm (or 20mm as the architects say)
is just about 1/32 of an inch.
So it appears that Norm is working partly in metric units these
days. Think this could be so?
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"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:39:15 -0500, "Jeffo"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Sounds like the paint company that I worked for. Someone decided to
reduce
> >the size of a gallon by about 2 tablespoons IIRC to increase profits as
they
> >say. Hope it was worth the problems/stress it created at the stores. It
also
> >happened on the heels of another product change over.
>
>
> I'd have no idea if two tablespoons of paint were missing.
>
> Did the missing paint cause major color differences when the stores
> tinted it?
>
> Imagine how many employees got yelled at, or maybe even fired, for
> screwing up mixes! <G>
>
> Barry
The only way to tell was that the volume on the label changed, but how many
people look at that. The tough part was keeping track of who got what during
the change over, making sure they got the same colour in the same paint (was
that new or old stock) each time. Of course we won't supposed to let the
customer know what's going on. I don't think it was enough of a change to
affect the colour, but you never know. Thing is the value of the paint it
self is so small compared to all the other costs, but when you're one of the
largest paint companies, the savings must add up.
Jeffo
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Tudor Jones) wrote:
> >I do not monitor this group on a regular basis. Please
> >excuse me if this subject has been discussed before.
> >
> >Watching Norm Abrams' show on TV, a couple of time he has
> >referred to the width of a sheet of plywood. He says that a
> >piece 3/4 of an inch thick these days is about 1/32 of an
> >inch off.
>
> Right, nominal 3/4 plywood is actually about 23/32 thick.
> >
> >Comparing my regular ruler with a metric scale, I see the
> >difference between 3/4" and 2cm (or 20mm as the architects say)
> >is just about 1/32 of an inch.
>
> Yes, but it's about 1/32" the other direction: 20mm is *more* than 3/4"...
> 20mm = 0.7874" or a bit over 25/32".
> 23/32" is a bit over 18mm.
> >
> >So it appears that Norm is working partly in metric units these
> >days. Think this could be so?
> >
> Very doubtful. It's just that the plywood manufacturers figured out that
they
> could make about 4% more plywood (thus about 4% more profit) from the same
> amount of material by making the sheets about 4% thinner.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
Sounds like the paint company that I worked for. Someone decided to reduce
the size of a gallon by about 2 tablespoons IIRC to increase profits as they
say. Hope it was worth the problems/stress it created at the stores. It also
happened on the heels of another product change over.
Cheers,
Jeffo
"Tudor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I do not monitor this group on a regular basis. Please
> excuse me if this subject has been discussed before.
>
> Watching Norm Abrams' show on TV, a couple of time he has
> referred to the width of a sheet of plywood. He says that a
> piece 3/4 of an inch thick these days is about 1/32 of an
> inch off.
>
> Comparing my regular ruler with a metric scale, I see the
> difference between 3/4" and 2cm (or 20mm as the architects say)
> is just about 1/32 of an inch.
>
> So it appears that Norm is working partly in metric units these
> days. Think this could be so?
>
> \/
> /\ T.P.Jones.
> / \ www.storm.ca/~tjones/index.html
From the construction related magazines I've read it seems that the
thickness dimensions are nominal and that it's a performance standard that
they need to meet. That is, as long as it meets the performance standard of
3/4" it's OK to sell/use even if it measures less than 3/4".
John
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:45:12 GMT, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> scribbled:
>On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:44:23 -0500, Silvan
><[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>>Luigi Zanasi wrote:
>>
>>> in Kanuckistan. But 19mm is very close to 3/4, just 2 gnat asses
>>
>>Kanukistanis can't measure. It's 2.0000327 gnat asses to be exact. Yeesh.
>
>Silly 'Murrican. 2.0000327 gnat's asses = one RCH. Yeesh.
>Spreak Engrish, Troops.
Shouldn't that be 2.0000327 gnats' asses, as a gnat has only one ass,
so you would need more than one gnat, which should then be in the
plural? That is, if one insists on using the genitive (possessive,
Keith). I believe Silvan and my treating "gnat" as an adjectival noun,
a common construction in English, is much more elegant and euphonious.
Gnat asses it is (are?).
>(Still wishing Weegee would send me a Claudia Schiffer $20 bill.)
Huh? The only person I see on our $20 bill is the head of the world's
most famous dysfunctional family. And a couple of other loons in the
back.
If you fold the bill just right around the chin area, you see some
nice butt cheeks. Which provided no end of amusement to us as children
on the rare occasions we got our hands on paper money. We also used to
be able to fold bills so they said "Bank of Banana" but the new
designs are preempting that by putting the English version of "Bank of
Canada" on top of the French, rather than on the same line.
Luigi
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Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> in Kanuckistan. But 19mm is very close to 3/4, just 2 gnat asses
Kanukistanis can't measure. It's 2.0000327 gnat asses to be exact. Yeesh.
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:39:15 -0500, "Jeffo"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Sounds like the paint company that I worked for. Someone decided to reduce
>the size of a gallon by about 2 tablespoons IIRC to increase profits as they
>say. Hope it was worth the problems/stress it created at the stores. It also
>happened on the heels of another product change over.
I'd have no idea if two tablespoons of paint were missing.
Did the missing paint cause major color differences when the stores
tinted it?
Imagine how many employees got yelled at, or maybe even fired, for
screwing up mixes! <G>
Barry
Eveerybody uses metric. The inch is defined as a fraction of the meter.
"Tudor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I do not monitor this group on a regular basis. Please
> excuse me if this subject has been discussed before.
>
> Watching Norm Abrams' show on TV, a couple of time he has
> referred to the width of a sheet of plywood. He says that a
> piece 3/4 of an inch thick these days is about 1/32 of an
> inch off.
>
> Comparing my regular ruler with a metric scale, I see the
> difference between 3/4" and 2cm (or 20mm as the architects say)
> is just about 1/32 of an inch.
>
> So it appears that Norm is working partly in metric units these
> days. Think this could be so?
>
> \/
> /\ T.P.Jones.
> / \ www.storm.ca/~tjones/index.html
>
>
I believed he is using imported plywood which is 2cm.
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"Tudor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I do not monitor this group on a regular basis. Please
> excuse me if this subject has been discussed before.
>
> Watching Norm Abrams' show on TV, a couple of time he has
> referred to the width of a sheet of plywood. He says that a
> piece 3/4 of an inch thick these days is about 1/32 of an
> inch off.
>
> Comparing my regular ruler with a metric scale, I see the
> difference between 3/4" and 2cm (or 20mm as the architects say)
> is just about 1/32 of an inch.
>
> So it appears that Norm is working partly in metric units these
> days. Think this could be so?
>
> \/
> /\ T.P.Jones.
> / \ www.storm.ca/~tjones/index.html
>
>
[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Tudor Jones) wrote:
> >I do not monitor this group on a regular basis. Please
> >excuse me if this subject has been discussed before.
> >
> >Watching Norm Abrams' show on TV, a couple of time he has
> >referred to the width of a sheet of plywood. He says that a
> >piece 3/4 of an inch thick these days is about 1/32 of an
> >inch off.
>
> Yes, but it's about 1/32" the other direction: 20mm is *more* than 3/4"...
> 20mm = 0.7874" or a bit over 25/32".
> 23/32" is a bit over 18mm.
That makes sense. Over here in Europe I buy plywood and MDF in 18mm,
15mm and 12mm thicknesses. In the same way our copper pipe is 15mm and
22mm, equating to almost 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch (imperial measurement
is inside diameter and metric outside)
Andrew
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:44:23 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>Luigi Zanasi wrote:
>
>> in Kanuckistan. But 19mm is very close to 3/4, just 2 gnat asses
>
>Kanukistanis can't measure. It's 2.0000327 gnat asses to be exact. Yeesh.
Silly 'Murrican. 2.0000327 gnat's asses = one RCH. Yeesh.
Spreak Engrish, Troops.
(Still wishing Weegee would send me a Claudia Schiffer $20 bill.)
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:44:23 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> scribbled:
>Kanukistanis can't measure. It's 2.0000327 gnat asses to be exact. Yeesh.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
And Virginia Yankees can't spell. It's Kanuckistani. Sheesh.
^
Luigi
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:19:11 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Shouldn't that be 2.0000327 gnats' asses, as a gnat has only one ass,
>so you would need more than one gnat, which should then be in the
>plural? That is, if one insists on using the genitive (possessive,
>Keith). I believe Silvan and my treating "gnat" as an adjectival noun,
>a common construction in English, is much more elegant and euphonious.
>Gnat asses it is (are?).
Don't bring genitals into this discussion. It was asses.
Me not phonious, euphonious.
>>(Still wishing Weegee would send me a Claudia Schiffer $20 bill.)
>
>Huh? The only person I see on our $20 bill is the head of the world's
>most famous dysfunctional family. And a couple of other loons in the
>back.
All I have is .jpg so I'll attach it to an email.
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Tudor Jones) wrote:
>I do not monitor this group on a regular basis. Please
>excuse me if this subject has been discussed before.
>
>Watching Norm Abrams' show on TV, a couple of time he has
>referred to the width of a sheet of plywood. He says that a
>piece 3/4 of an inch thick these days is about 1/32 of an
>inch off.
Right, nominal 3/4 plywood is actually about 23/32 thick.
>
>Comparing my regular ruler with a metric scale, I see the
>difference between 3/4" and 2cm (or 20mm as the architects say)
>is just about 1/32 of an inch.
Yes, but it's about 1/32" the other direction: 20mm is *more* than 3/4"...
20mm = 0.7874" or a bit over 25/32".
23/32" is a bit over 18mm.
>
>So it appears that Norm is working partly in metric units these
>days. Think this could be so?
>
Very doubtful. It's just that the plywood manufacturers figured out that they
could make about 4% more plywood (thus about 4% more profit) from the same
amount of material by making the sheets about 4% thinner.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:50:59 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
scribbled:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Tudor Jones) wrote:
>>I do not monitor this group on a regular basis. Please
>>excuse me if this subject has been discussed before.
>>
>>Watching Norm Abrams' show on TV, a couple of time he has
>>referred to the width of a sheet of plywood. He says that a
>>piece 3/4 of an inch thick these days is about 1/32 of an
>>inch off.
>
>Right, nominal 3/4 plywood is actually about 23/32 thick.
Thanks for the post. It made me check the conversion. I first thought
you were wrong in that 3/4 ply was actually 19 millimetres and 23/32
was an approximation. At least, 3/4 ply is often billed as 19mm here
in Kanuckistan. But 19mm is very close to 3/4, just 2 gnat asses
(tmTW) smaller than 3/4", and like you said, 23/32 is close to 18mm.
So it is a rip off.
Luigi
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