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[email protected] (Hylourgos)

25/04/2004 11:03 PM

Why don't they make WW blades for hacksaws?

Just curious. Never seen anything less than 18 tpi.

H


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"Chipper Wood"

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 1:11 AM

See also :
Coping saw,
Bow saw,
Back saw.
--
Chipper Wood

useours, yours won't work

"Hylourgos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just curious. Never seen anything less than 18 tpi.
>
> H

dD

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in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 4:51 PM

>
> And with some extremely slight modification (removing the plastic sliders)
> have a comparable saw. In fact the blade looks like it may even fit a
> "regular" hack saw - it sure looks like it has the same type of setup.

Why'nt you just cut the teeth you want into a hacksaw blade?

Bb

BruceR

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 12:43 PM


>>
>>"Hylourgos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
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>>>Just curious. Never seen anything less than 18 tpi.
>>>
>>>H

MSC and McMaster-Carr both list 12TPI blades...

-Bruce



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bM

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

27/04/2004 1:24 PM

Jorgenson sells replacement blades for their miter box and saw
combinations. Go to http://www.adjustableclamp.com/ and you'll see
replacement blades at 14 and 18 tpi for wood. Looks like they'd fit a
hacksaw.



"Eric Scantlebury" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> I suppose if you really wanted one you could buy one of these:
>
> http://www.growinglifestyle.com/prod/B00002244D.html
>
> And with some extremely slight modification (removing the plastic sliders)
> have a comparable saw. In fact the blade looks like it may even fit a
> "regular" hack saw - it sure looks like it has the same type of setup.

wH

[email protected] (Hylourgos)

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 7:57 AM

Yes, I've seen, used and have all three. All three have different
uses, although they can be used for some of the same tasks. But that
doesn't quite answer my question, does it?

It could be used in many circumstances that lead us to use one of the
other three, if it had the proper blade. It's less expensive and in
more plentiful supply than the other three. Why no WW blades?

The curiosity remains,
H.


"Chipper Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> See also :
> Coping saw,
> Bow saw,
> Back saw.
> --
> Chipper Wood
>
> useours, yours won't work
>
> "Hylourgos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Just curious. Never seen anything less than 18 tpi.
> >
> > H

wH

[email protected] (Hylourgos)

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 11:20 AM

Yes, true, but the analogy to a kitchen knife doesn't make sense to
me.

A hack saw is used to cut metals mostly (I'm not sure of its history
though, are you sure it was originally intended for metals?), but in
conception it's like any other frame saw.

It's common, it's cheap, why _not_ sell ww blades? The only reason I
see so far is a consideration of cut depth. And that's true, you could
not use it for much over 3" on most brands--you'd have to use a coping
or bowsaw if you needed more depth.

But 3"-and-under cuts are not uncommon. Consider dovetails: if someone
made different ww blades for hacksaws, would they work well for
dovetails?

I'd rather spend a few cents on new blades than $50-100 on a decent
backsaw or dozuki. And I could mount the blade as a push or a pull saw
to suit my whims.

I just don't see any disadvantages, but there must be some because no
one makes them.

H
...still hoping someone knows the answer.


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> A hack saw is designed to cut metal... Your depth of cut would be limited
> to a couple of inches.
> Sorta like why don't they make a kitchen knife for WW
>
>
> "Hylourgos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Just curious. Never seen anything less than 18 tpi.
> >
> > H

b

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 10:52 AM

On 26 Apr 2004 07:57:04 -0700, [email protected] (Hylourgos) wrote:

>It could be used in many circumstances that lead us to use one of the
>other three, if it had the proper blade. It's less expensive and in
>more plentiful supply than the other three. Why no WW blades?
>
>The curiosity remains,
>H.


hey... get a piece of bandsaw blade and drill some holes in it. mount
it in a hacksaw frame and give it a try. report back to the wreck.
heck, you might be on to sumpin'

ES

"Eric Scantlebury"

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 4:35 PM


"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I suppose if you really wanted one you could buy one of these:

http://www.growinglifestyle.com/prod/B00002244D.html

And with some extremely slight modification (removing the plastic sliders)
have a comparable saw. In fact the blade looks like it may even fit a
"regular" hack saw - it sure looks like it has the same type of setup.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 2:02 PM

A hack saw is designed to cut metal... Your depth of cut would be limited
to a couple of inches.
Sorta like why don't they make a kitchen knife for WW


"Hylourgos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just curious. Never seen anything less than 18 tpi.
>
> H

MP

Michael Press

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 3:36 PM

>
>I'd rather spend a few cents on new blades than $50-100 on a decent
>backsaw or dozuki. And I could mount the blade as a push or a pull saw
>to suit my whims.
>
>I just don't see any disadvantages, but there must be some because no
>one makes them.

I think a disadvantage is the short blade (short in height). I pruned
some trees recently with a bowsaw. It's got a 3/4"-high blade about
12" long with a wide set for cutting through wood, so it's basically a
hacksaw with a WW blade (albeit a fast-cutting wide-kerf blade). It
was hard to precisely control the direction the blade travelled. Once
the entire blade height was embedded in the wood, twisting the "bow"
part of the saw changed the direction the blade travelled, but not
very consistently. For cutting off a branch it was fine, but for
cutting a dovetail I think the blade would wander compared to a
backsaw with several inches of stiff metal above the teeth to keep the
saw going straight.

Michael

nN

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 2:17 PM

> Why don't they make WW blades for hacksaws?

I have no trouble finding WW blades for my Crapsman direct drive table
saw. It is definitely a "hack's" saw.

Neil

ES

"Eric Scantlebury"

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 5:02 PM


"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Eric Scantlebury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...

> If you read the comments from the link above, someone complains about the
> very problem I responded to, namely that the blade bends during use,
> resulting in the blade not tracking straight. Honestly, I think the only
> fix for that is a thicker and taller saw blade, as you would get with a
back
> saw, dozuki, etc.

That blade is thicker than a regular hacksaw blade. I own one of those
miter boxes (and use it to cut plastic - after purchasing a Dewault 703
rendered it redundant). The blade is a good 2 inches or so tall and I have
never seen it flex. Although I agree with the above poster as to the reason
why you might not need that type of saw.

tf

"todd"

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 3:19 PM

"Michael Press" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> >I'd rather spend a few cents on new blades than $50-100 on a decent
> >backsaw or dozuki. And I could mount the blade as a push or a pull saw
> >to suit my whims.
> >
> >I just don't see any disadvantages, but there must be some because no
> >one makes them.
>
> I think a disadvantage is the short blade (short in height). I pruned
> some trees recently with a bowsaw. It's got a 3/4"-high blade about
> 12" long with a wide set for cutting through wood, so it's basically a
> hacksaw with a WW blade (albeit a fast-cutting wide-kerf blade). It
> was hard to precisely control the direction the blade travelled. Once
> the entire blade height was embedded in the wood, twisting the "bow"
> part of the saw changed the direction the blade travelled, but not
> very consistently. For cutting off a branch it was fine, but for
> cutting a dovetail I think the blade would wander compared to a
> backsaw with several inches of stiff metal above the teeth to keep the
> saw going straight.
>
> Michael

This was the answer I had in mind.

todd

b

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 10:49 AM

On 25 Apr 2004 23:03:05 -0700, [email protected] (Hylourgos) wrote:

>Just curious. Never seen anything less than 18 tpi.
>
>H



I have a tree limbing blade for a hacksaw. it's about 1 tpi. never
have used it.

tf

"todd"

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/04/2004 11:03 PM

26/04/2004 3:44 PM

"Eric Scantlebury" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> I suppose if you really wanted one you could buy one of these:
>
> http://www.growinglifestyle.com/prod/B00002244D.html
>
> And with some extremely slight modification (removing the plastic sliders)
> have a comparable saw. In fact the blade looks like it may even fit a
> "regular" hack saw - it sure looks like it has the same type of setup.

If you read the comments from the link above, someone complains about the
very problem I responded to, namely that the blade bends during use,
resulting in the blade not tracking straight. Honestly, I think the only
fix for that is a thicker and taller saw blade, as you would get with a back
saw, dozuki, etc.

todd


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