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D Spy

06/12/2003 9:45 AM

Finish for aromatic cedar

I tried finishing a piece of aromatic cedar with a water-based varnish. My
problem is that it has gone sticky in places as if resin from the wood is
affecting the finish. I will have to sand it down and re-apply a new finish.

What would be the best treatment for this sort of wood? I need to seal the
surface with a semi-matt finish. I then need to mark on top of this with ink
lines that will not penetrate or 'bleed' into the surface.

Thanks for any advice,
Donald.


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cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to D Spy on 06/12/2003 9:45 AM

06/12/2003 12:11 PM

D Spy asks:

>I tried finishing a piece of aromatic cedar with a water-based varnish. My
>problem is that it has gone sticky in places as if resin from the wood is
>affecting the finish. I will have to sand it down and re-apply a new finish.
>
>What would be the best treatment for this sort of wood? I need to seal the
>surface with a semi-matt finish. I then need to mark on top of this with ink
>lines that will not penetrate or 'bleed' into the surface.

Try a couple coats of shellac--dewaxed--then coat over with anything you want.

Charlie Self

"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin



















WL

"Wilson Lamb"

in reply to D Spy on 06/12/2003 9:45 AM

06/12/2003 1:05 PM

Won't it lose the smell if varnished??
Wilson
"D Spy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I tried finishing a piece of aromatic cedar with a water-based varnish. My
> problem is that it has gone sticky in places as if resin from the wood is
> affecting the finish. I will have to sand it down and re-apply a new
finish.
>
> What would be the best treatment for this sort of wood? I need to seal the
> surface with a semi-matt finish. I then need to mark on top of this with
ink
> lines that will not penetrate or 'bleed' into the surface.
>
> Thanks for any advice,
> Donald.
>

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Wilson Lamb" on 06/12/2003 1:05 PM

06/12/2003 3:08 PM

Wilson Lamb asks:

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>Won't it lose the smell if varnished??

Yup. The aroma is not always what is sought. I made my wife a music box of red
cedar some years ago, and finished both inside and outside. Made the youngest
kid a hope chest (walnut) the same year, lined it with red cedar and left the
cedar unfinished.

Charlie Self

"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin



















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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Wilson Lamb" on 06/12/2003 1:05 PM

06/12/2003 11:56 PM

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:11:24 -0800, "Dirty Bob" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Western redcedar (Thuja plicata) is NOT aromatic cedar.
>Although western redcedar is mildly aromatic. Eastern redcedar (Juniperus
>virginiana) is what is commonly referred to as aromatic cedar.

There are four "interesting" cedars, and many others too.

WRC is lightweight, easily dented, and smells of either tomcats or
pencils, depending on your taste.

ERC is commonplace, cheap, smells "of cedar" and is the one that gets
used for chest linings.

Real "aromatic cedar" is cedar of lebanon, a true cedar and not a
jumped-up juniper. Damned hard to find (your only real source is
parkland with storm-damaged ornamentals) and expensive. BTW - don't
fell your own - it's brittle and has a reputation as a killer tree.

Spanish cedar is the stuff used for cigar humidors, because it doesn't
mind the humidity. Slightly aromatic, but not much compared to the
others. It has a well-known problem with some boards weeping.

Personally I avoid weeping spanish cedar by cutting around the resin
pocket and just not using that part of the board. If the OP has a
resin problem, I'd wonder if this is what they're using.


Other "cedars" are the Moroccan thuya burrs used for turning and
veneers. They're mainly decorative, but they have a really intense
smell when machining them, or burning the offcuts.

There are also incense cedars (traditional for pencil making).
They're useless _as_ incense, but they're a good flavour-free spindle
to coat powdered incense onto.

Port Orford Cedar is just the stuff if you've bust your boat and need
a new mast.

--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods

DB

"Dirty Bob"

in reply to "Wilson Lamb" on 06/12/2003 1:05 PM

06/12/2003 8:11 AM

Just an FYI. Western redcedar (Thuja plicata) is NOT aromatic cedar.
Although western redcedar is mildly aromatic. Eastern redcedar (Juniperus
virginiana) is what is commonly referred to as aromatic cedar. My source:
The encyclopedia of wood, sterling publishing.

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cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Dirty Bob" on 06/12/2003 8:11 AM

06/12/2003 6:38 PM

Dirty Bob writes:

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>Just an FYI. Western redcedar (Thuja plicata) is NOT aromatic cedar.
>Although western redcedar is mildly aromatic. Eastern redcedar (Juniperus
>virginiana) is what is commonly referred to as aromatic cedar. My source:
>The encyclopedia of wood, sterling publishing.

The Encyclopedia of Wood is a reprint of the Wood Handbook, Wood as an
Engineering Material, from the USDA (Forest Service). Lee Valley has a great
hardcover reprint of it.

Charlie Self

"I have one yardstick by which I test every major problem-and that yardstick
is: Is it good for America?" Dwight D. Eisenhower






















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