The most annoying toy lot ever. Everyone who has kids or who knows
people who have kids should see this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3156845753
Crossposted to my regular hangouts.
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:03:29 +0000, LRod <[email protected]> brought
forth from the murky depths:
>The most annoying toy lot ever. Everyone who has kids or who knows
>people who have kids should see this.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3156845753
>
>Crossposted to my regular hangouts.
What has happened to Ebay recently? Typical prices are now $1
for the item and $12-$30 to ship it next door. WTF,O?
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:41:29 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
>What has happened to Ebay recently? Typical prices are now $1
>for the item and $12-$30 to ship it next door. WTF,O?
Fee avoidance. EBay charges the seller, based on the final bid price,
but excluding the shipping.
This lot sounds like a candidate for divorced fathers to give their
non-resident kids 8-)
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T. wrote:
> I was thinking more along the lines of a grandparent to grandchild.
> Paypack is Hell. LMAO
You bet your ass it is. My parents have had a frickin' *field day* with my
kids. It all started with the lights-and-siren fireman helmet.
They buy my kids batteries by the truckload too, to make sure none of that
stuff ever runs out of juice.
Plus toys these days are just noisy anyway. Everything talks and plays
movie soundbites. Sure, I had some toys that did that too, with little
plastic records inside, but they were a novelty, and didn't make much
noise. Now everything makes a ton of it, and the art of making vocal sound
effects is now right up there with slide rules and mechanical typewriters.
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Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 11:51pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(Andy=A0Dingley) says:
<snip> This lot sounds like a candidate for divorced fathers to give
their non-resident kids 8-)
That would work, but in my case I got the kids. The drum set the
ex sent didn't last long.
I was thinking more along the lines of a grandparent to grandchild.
Paypack is Hell. LMAO
JOAT
Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
missing.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 21 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Wood Butcher wrote:
> It's not limited to grandparents. Some years ago a friend of mine
> was in a contest with his brother. It started out with sending noisy
> toys to the others kids.
That's how I got even with my sister.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
It's not limited to grandparents. Some years ago a friend of mine
was in a contest with his brother. It started out with sending noisy
toys to the others kids. Then it escalated to costing the other money.
For example the kid receives a game cartridge and you don't own the
Nintendo machine it's played on. Or give one kid a ticket to Disneyland
and his brother a ticket to Knotts Berry Farm.
Count yourself lucky if you're still in the noisy toy stage.
Art
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> T. wrote:
>
> > I was thinking more along the lines of a grandparent to grandchild.
> > Paypack is Hell. LMAO
>
> You bet your ass it is. My parents have had a frickin' *field day* with my
> kids. It all started with the lights-and-siren fireman helmet.
>
> They buy my kids batteries by the truckload too, to make sure none of that
> stuff ever runs out of juice.
>
> Plus toys these days are just noisy anyway. Everything talks and plays
> movie soundbites. Sure, I had some toys that did that too, with little
> plastic records inside, but they were a novelty, and didn't make much
> noise. Now everything makes a ton of it, and the art of making vocal sound
> effects is now right up there with slide rules and mechanical typewriters.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>
Mark <[email protected]> wrote in news:72Zvb.31208$kL2.1185
@fe3.columbus.rr.com:
>
>
> Wood Butcher wrote:
>> It's not limited to grandparents. Some years ago a friend of mine
>> was in a contest with his brother. It started out with sending noisy
>> toys to the others kids.
>
>
>
> That's how I got even with my sister.
>
>
Drum sets, slide whistles, toy pianos, are kids stuff. Try a small
accordian for real fun. Better yet, a few model rocket kits with lots of
engines will certainly make for a great christmas for the kids.
A camera with tons of film also can be fun. Those candid pics of dad in
the shower will certainly be entertaining.
Send do-it-yourself doll house that one can put together in just a few
dozen 40 hour sessions.
A really effective subwoofer will certainly please that teen. Send 2 just
in case one goes out.
The teen into PC gaming? Get him a 5.1 sound system! Gunfire and
explosions at 1am never hurt anyone.
Sent that young lad a years subscription to Guns and Ammo and Soldier of
Fortune along with a few posters of Brittany.
A case of assorted fireworks will be an instant hit. Don't forget a few
Bic lighters too.
Send the parents a stuffed monkey and a 1 gallon gas can with a card
apologizing for the stuffed monkey. You wanted to send them a real one so
that they could realize their fantasy, but couldn't find a real one in
time. This one works great when all the family is around including
Grandma and Grandpa. Let them explain the fantasy to them. Dont forget
the box of matches.
r
r
--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.
Andy Dingley wrote:
> that was all they did. Now you can't have a plastic sword without it
> doing "Avast sirrah" sound effects too.
>
> How about using some _imagination_ ?
Hear hear!
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Rich Andrews wrote:
> Mark <[email protected]>
>
>>
>>Wood Butcher wrote:
>>
>>>It's not limited to grandparents. Some years ago a friend of mine
>>>was in a contest with his brother. It started out with sending noisy
>>>toys to the others kids.
>>
>>
>>
>>That's how I got even with my sister.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Drum sets, slide whistles, toy pianos, are kids stuff. Try a small
> accordian for real fun. Better yet, a few model rocket kits with lots of
> engines will certainly make for a great christmas for the kids.
She has two boys, both age 6.
Their beyond kids stuff but not yet ready for fireworks.
I like the accordion idea. maybe a squeeze box, or two (they fight over
the hot toys).
Sisters in Florida, I'm in Ohio, far enough to be out of the blast zone.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:54:43 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Plus toys these days are just noisy anyway. Everything talks and plays
>movie soundbites.
I had toys that did that. But they _did_ that, that was what they did,
that was all they did. Now you can't have a plastic sword without it
doing "Avast sirrah" sound effects too.
How about using some _imagination_ ?
--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Drum sets, slide whistles, toy pianos, are kids stuff. Try a small
>> accordian for real fun. Better yet, a few model rocket kits with lots of
>> engines will certainly make for a great christmas for the kids.
>
>
>She has two boys, both age 6.
>
>Their beyond kids stuff but not yet ready for fireworks.
I was about 8 when I got my favorite birthday present from my uncle.
One of those plastic rockets you fill halfway with water, then pump up
with a little air pump. Mom made me wait until dad got home from the
office to test it out so he got the first launch. Good thing, too,
else I would have had to learn the hard way that it is not a good idea
to stand in rockets' exhaust. Especially in your best suit.
Well lets hope that the other spots you hang out are not a squirrelly as the
pets news group that got that whole cross posting war going a couple of
months ago.
"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> The most annoying toy lot ever. Everyone who has kids or who knows
> people who have kids should see this.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3156845753
>
> Crossposted to my regular hangouts.
>
> LRod
>
> Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>
> Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>
> http://www.woodbutcher.net
At least you hear up front now...I've gotten some stuff from some real
crooks on there (including one who insisted on $75 to ship a fly rod...it
was a NICE fly rod, but it didn't cost him anything like that to ship).
Another real annoying one was someone who charged me $3.85 to ship a Xerox
copy of a short manual...the charge was represented as the charge to send it
Priority Mail (which would have been fine)...however the thief pocketed the
difference and sent it "Media Mail" which took 8 weeks after the postmark to
arrive. (Yes, I live in the continental US.)
"Larry Jaques" <jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> What has happened to Ebay recently? Typical prices are now $1
> for the item and $12-$30 to ship it next door. WTF,O?
>
>
> --------------------------------------
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> --------------------------------------------
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Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 3:54pm [email protected] (George) says:
At least you hear up front now...I've gotten some stuff from some real
crooks on there (including one who insisted on $75 to ship a fly rod
<snip>
Yes, and along the right side of the page is a spot to click to ask
the seller a question. If the shipping isn't listed, ask the seller
before you bid. I keep telling people that, but they don't listen.
Some of these people figure on making their profit from the shipping.
If the shipping isn't listed, I always ask first. If it's more than I
think is reasonable, I either don't bid, or ask for a lower shipping
rate. Quite a few come down on shipping. If they say priority mail, I
also often ask if they will send at a lower rate. Again, a lot will.
But, you gotta ask first.
JOAT
Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
missing.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 21 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
eBay has (or least did last time I looked) rules against idiotic shipping
amounts. There's a certain threshold of craziness that they frown upon
crossing.
If someone says "actual shipping", then they better damn well charge that. If
they say "all shipping costs" then it just needs to be reasonable.
I once bought a laptop for $5 that some goofball wanted $30 to ship. Showed up
at his from door the next day with $5.
GTO(John)
>Yes, and along the right side of the page is a spot to click to ask
>the seller a question. If the shipping isn't listed, ask the seller
>before you bid. I keep telling people that, but they don't listen.
>Some of these people figure on making their profit from the shipping.
>If the shipping isn't listed, I always ask first. If it's more than I
>think is reasonable, I either don't bid, or ask for a lower shipping
>rate. Quite a few come down on shipping. If they say priority mail, I
>also often ask if they will send at a lower rate. Again, a lot will.
>But, you gotta ask first.
>
>JOAT
>Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
>missing.
>
>Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
>Web Page Update 21 Nov 2003.
>Some tunes I like.
>http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
On 22 Nov 2003 02:49:11 GMT, [email protected] (GTO69RA4) wrote:
>eBay has (or least did last time I looked) rules against idiotic shipping
>amounts. There's a certain threshold of craziness that they frown upon
>crossing.
Keep in mind that sometimes it all makes sense.
I just sold 3 Harbor Freight hammers for $1, with a $7 shipping fee.
They will cost all of $7 to ship via USPS. I just wanted them out of
the shop, and I hate to throw things out.
Barry
That's perfectly normal. I was talking about if you charged $35 to ship those
hammers.
GTO(John)
>Keep in mind that sometimes it all makes sense.
>
>I just sold 3 Harbor Freight hammers for $1, with a $7 shipping fee.
>They will cost all of $7 to ship via USPS. I just wanted them out of
>the shop, and I hate to throw things out.
>
>Barry
Ohio's dept. of tax noticed that. Now we have to charge sales tax on S&H
too.
"GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> eBay has (or least did last time I looked) rules against idiotic shipping
> amounts. There's a certain threshold of craziness that they frown upon
> crossing.
>
> If someone says "actual shipping", then they better damn well charge that.
If
> they say "all shipping costs" then it just needs to be reasonable.
>
> I once bought a laptop for $5 that some goofball wanted $30 to ship.
Showed up
> at his from door the next day with $5.
>
> GTO(John)
>
> >Yes, and along the right side of the page is a spot to click to ask
> >the seller a question. If the shipping isn't listed, ask the seller
> >before you bid. I keep telling people that, but they don't listen.
> >Some of these people figure on making their profit from the shipping.
> >If the shipping isn't listed, I always ask first. If it's more than I
> >think is reasonable, I either don't bid, or ask for a lower shipping
> >rate. Quite a few come down on shipping. If they say priority mail, I
> >also often ask if they will send at a lower rate. Again, a lot will.
> >But, you gotta ask first.
> >
> >JOAT
> >Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
> >missing.
> >
> >Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> >Web Page Update 21 Nov 2003.
> >Some tunes I like.
> >http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
[email protected] (T.) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 3:54pm [email protected] (George) says:
> At least you hear up front now...I've gotten some stuff from some real
> crooks on there (including one who insisted on $75 to ship a fly rod
> <snip>
>
> Yes, and along the right side of the page is a spot to click to ask
> the seller a question. If the shipping isn't listed, ask the seller
> before you bid. I keep telling people that, but they don't listen.
> Some of these people figure on making their profit from the shipping.
> If the shipping isn't listed, I always ask first. If it's more than I
> think is reasonable, I either don't bid, or ask for a lower shipping
> rate. Quite a few come down on shipping. If they say priority mail, I
> also often ask if they will send at a lower rate. Again, a lot will.
> But, you gotta ask first.
>
I beg to differ. If they don't specify that they overcharge for shipping
then 'buyer pays shipping' implies that is all they pay, no surcharge.
If they do specify then that is indeed how it goes.
--
FF
Tue, Nov 25, 2003, 2:15pm (EST-3) [email protected]
(Fred=A0the=A0Red=A0Shirt) says:
I beg to differ. If they don't specify that they overcharge for shipping
then 'buyer pays shipping' implies that is all they pay, no surcharge.
If they do specify then that is indeed how it goes.
I don't think too many people are going to come right out and admit
they're planning on overcharging for shipping.
The statement "buyer pays shipping" is pretty meaningless on eBay,
because it's expected the buyer will pay for it anyway. However, to me,
that statement means that the buyer will have to pay whatever the seller
decides shipping is, which could wind up being fair, or not.
Saying "buyer pays actual shipping", to me is more reasonable.
But, I still want to know first, it can get pricey, paying shipping on
some heavy stuff. Maybe more pricey than I want to go.
JOAT
Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
missing.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 23 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>I always say "buyer pays actual shipping costs". I rarely get an inquiry
>as to the cost (good thing too, as I rarely have them packed before the
>auction end!). 99% of the time, it goes out USPS.
>
>John
I used to say buyer pays actual shipping. Then the auction would end and I
would have to pack the item and take it to the PO or other shipping location
and find out how much it was going to be. Then take it back home and email the
buyer the total cost with shipping. Then wait to get paid then take it to the
PO again to actually ship it. Too much of a PITA. Now I simply estimate the
cost to send by Priority Mail and put that in my auction listing. Sometimes I
am too high and make an extra buck, sometimes too low and have to eat it.
either way it is far more simple and if the bidder doesn't like how much the
shipping is he doesn;t have to bid. I do NOT try to cover costs of boxes or
tape or my time packing or try to make a "profit" on shipping. But then I am
not trying to make a living at it - just getting rid of some excess junk now
and then.
Dave Hall
Dave Hall notes:
>PO again to actually ship it. Too much of a PITA. Now I simply estimate the
>cost to send by Priority Mail and put that in my auction listing. Sometimes
>I
>am too high and make an extra buck, sometimes too low and have to eat it.
>either way it is far more simple and if the bidder doesn't like how much the
>shipping is he doesn;t have to bid. I do NOT try to cover costs of boxes or
>tape or my time packing or try to make a "profit" on shipping. But then I am
>not trying to make a living at it - just getting rid of some excess junk now
>and then.
Easiest way is to get a fairly accurate scale--you do NOT want to pay for a
really accurate one--and weigh the package. Then call the P.O. and give them an
address and the weight. Address does not have to be perfectly correct, usually
a ZIP will do. They'll tell you the cost. If you sell it closer, you make some
change. If you sell it further away, you lose some change. It will probably
even out.
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
Charlie Self wrote:
> Easiest way is to get a fairly accurate scale--you do NOT want to pay for a
> really accurate one--and weigh the package. Then call the P.O. and give them an
> address and the weight.
You only need a scale accurate to an ounce or so. It's capacity depends
on what your weighing (of course).
Our most used scale is a 15 pound candy scale with .005 lb resolution.
Paid $15 at a garage sale (calibration sticker was still valid). We have
two scales of greater capacity, a two beam baby and a two beam antique
physicians. Both set us back a total of $40.
Buy used, buy often.
http://www.usps.com and http://www.ups.com have on line rate calculators.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
Mark responds:
>
>> Easiest way is to get a fairly accurate scale--you do NOT want to pay for a
>> really accurate one--and weigh the package. Then call the P.O. and give
>them an
>> address and the weight.
>
>
>You only need a scale accurate to an ounce or so. It's capacity depends
>on what your weighing (of course).
>
>Our most used scale is a 15 pound candy scale with .005 lb resolution.
>Paid $15 at a garage sale (calibration sticker was still valid). We have
>two scales of greater capacity, a two beam baby and a two beam antique
>physicians. Both set us back a total of $40.
>
>
>http://www.usps.com and http://www.ups.com have on line rate calculators.
Thanks especially for the URLs. I do have to remember to buy used, I guess. I'm
about ready to start clearing out some shop corners, at least those that hold
easy to ship stuff.
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
[email protected] (T.) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Tue, Nov 25, 2003, 2:15pm (EST-3) [email protected]
> (Fred the Red Shirt) says:
> I beg to differ. If they don't specify that they overcharge for shipping
> then 'buyer pays shipping' implies that is all they pay, no surcharge.
> If they do specify then that is indeed how it goes.
>
> I don't think too many people are going to come right out and admit
> they're planning on overcharging for shipping.
>
> The statement "buyer pays shipping" is pretty meaningless on eBay,
Depending on the seller, all statements can be meaningless.
> because it's expected the buyer will pay for it anyway. However, to me,
> that statement means that the buyer will have to pay whatever the seller
> decides shipping is, which could wind up being fair, or not.
Well to me that means the buyer will pay whatever the shipping is,
not an arbitrary amount more.
>
> Saying "buyer pays actual shipping", to me is more reasonable.
> But, I still want to know first, it can get pricey, paying shipping on
> some heavy stuff. Maybe more pricey than I want to go.
>
Yep, 'actual' shipping should be clear to anyone its just that to
me, 'shipping' means 'actual shipping' and not 'shipping plus a
surcharge'.
--
FF
>
>
> JOAT
> Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
> missing.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 23 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
T. wrote:
> Saying "buyer pays actual shipping", to me is more reasonable.
> But, I still want to know first, it can get pricey, paying shipping on
> some heavy stuff. Maybe more pricey than I want to go.
"Packing and handling included in opening bid, buyer pays actual
shipping costs based on size, weight, destination and carrier."
I then give the unpacked weight.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)