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Unisaw A100

01/01/2004 1:54 AM

Wanted: Catalog Copy Writer

OK, I'll admit I don't always have a complete grasp of
things but I'm wondering, is the copy writer at Woodcraft
maybe not in full understandment of what it is he's doing?

Direct Cut 'N Paste From Woodcraft Web Page



Product Number 143963
Fractional Dial Caliper
"It didn’t exist so we had it made for us! One turn of the
dial equals an inch, a feature that no other dial caliper
has."



Now, I've used a dial caliper from time to time (OK, every
time I'm in the shop) and all the dial calipers I've used
measured an inch with one revolution of the dial.

Like I said, I don't always have a complete grasp of things.

Anyone?

Anyone?

Buehler?

UA100, who thinks maybe there aren't any woodworkers left at
Woodcraft...


This topic has 16 replies

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

01/01/2004 8:37 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Unisaw A100 wrote:
>
> > DJ Delorie >
> >>Mine is 1/10 inch per revolution. I checked the Grizzly catalog, and
> >>0.1" is the most per rev they have - others are even less per rev.
> >
> > That sounds like a dial *indicator*. The item being sold at
> > Woodcraft is a dial *caliper*.
>
> No, that sounds like a dial caliper. Every dial caliper I've ever
> used--Brown & Sharpe, Mitutoyo, or El Cheapo Chinese--reads .1" (1/10") per
> revolution, and has a resolution of .001". There are some really cheap
> plastic dial calipers which read 1" per rev., but they only have a
> resolution of .01".
>
>

The latter would be consistent with the Woodcraft ad: it claims it's
"calibrated" in 1/64" which is 0.015625", which, I assume they are
trying to say that it has 1/64" resolution. They also need somebody who
understands the difference between calibrated, resolution, accuracy, and
precision -- but that's probably another thread

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

31/12/2003 11:12 PM

Unisaw A100 said:

>OK, I'll admit I don't always have a complete grasp of
>things but I'm wondering, is the copy writer at Woodcraft
>maybe not in full understandment of what it is he's doing?

I haven't looked at the product in question, but what they probably
mean is that it has fractional divisions like 1/8, 1/4 rather than
.01, .02, etc. And there are several on the market, BTW - I have two
different models. One is nylon plastic by Hemp, and the other is a
stainless from Highland Hardware.
FWIW,

Greg G.

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Greg G. on 31/12/2003 11:12 PM

01/01/2004 8:58 AM

GregG responds:

>
>>OK, I'll admit I don't always have a complete grasp of
>>things but I'm wondering, is the copy writer at Woodcraft
>>maybe not in full understandment of what it is he's doing?
>
>I haven't looked at the product in question, but what they probably
>mean is that it has fractional divisions like 1/8, 1/4 rather than
>.01, .02, etc. And there are several on the market, BTW - I have two
>different models. One is nylon plastic by Hemp, and the other is a
>stainless from Highland Hardware.

I checked out the web site and photo. Fractions is what they mean, but they
emphasize something dozens of models have instead. Weird. I see they're back to
have trouble with possessives versus plurals, too.

Charlie Self
"If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave
it to. " Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

Tt

"TinWoodsmn"

in reply to Greg G. on 31/12/2003 11:12 PM

01/01/2004 4:11 PM


"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> GregG responds:
>
> >
> >>OK, I'll admit I don't always have a complete grasp of
> >>things but I'm wondering, is the copy writer at Woodcraft
> >>maybe not in full understandment of what it is he's doing?
> >
> >I haven't looked at the product in question, but what they probably
> >mean is that it has fractional divisions like 1/8, 1/4 rather than
> >.01, .02, etc. And there are several on the market, BTW - I have two
> >different models. One is nylon plastic by Hemp, and the other is a
> >stainless from Highland Hardware.
>
> I checked out the web site and photo. Fractions is what they mean, but
they
> emphasize something dozens of models have instead. Weird. I see they're
back to
> have trouble with possessives versus plurals, too.
>
> Charlie Self
> "If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he
gave
> it to. " Dorothy Parker
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

Try Highland Hardware #065008, on sale for $ 29.99. Reads in fractions, and
looks like 1 revolution per inch. Been in their catalog for some time.

TW

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 01/01/2004 4:11 PM

01/01/2004 5:57 PM

TinWoodsmn responds:

>> I checked out the web site and photo. Fractions is what they mean, but
>they
>> emphasize something dozens of models have instead. Weird. I see they're
>back to
>> have trouble with possessives versus plurals, too.
>>
>> Charlie Self
>> "If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he
>gave
>> it to. " Dorothy Parker
>>
>> http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
>
>Try Highland Hardware #065008, on sale for $ 29.99. Reads in fractions, and
>looks like 1 revolution per inch. Been in their catalog for some time.

Kind of a bitch to be the first to come out with a special design that everyone
else has had for years. Rip van Winkle must be writing the copy.

Charlie Self
"If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave
it to. " Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

01/01/2004 2:46 AM

Unisaw A100 writes:

>OK, I'll admit I don't always have a complete grasp of
>things but I'm wondering, is the copy writer at Woodcraft
>maybe not in full understandment of what it is he's doing?
>
>Direct Cut 'N Paste From Woodcraft Web Page
>
>
>
>Product Number 143963
>Fractional Dial Caliper
>"It didn’t exist so we had it made for us! One turn of the
>dial equals an inch, a feature that no other dial caliper
>has."
>
>
>
>Now, I've used a dial caliper from time to time (OK, every
>time I'm in the shop) and all the dial calipers I've used
>measured an inch with one revolution of the dial.
>
>Like I said, I don't always have a complete grasp of things.
>
>Anyone?
>

Marketing, I guess. I guarandamntee you I did NOT write that bit of copy while
I was there, though.

I don't know who is doing catalog copy now, but I could make some very, very
rough guesses. Not 1 of the 3 woodworkers who work for corporate?
Charlie Self
"If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave
it to. " Dorothy Parker

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

01/01/2004 7:40 AM

Anthony Diodati wrote:
>Well, The one I have in the den reads .100 of an inch per turn of the dial.
>10 turns of the dial = 1 inch.
>But the one I have in the basement, that reads in thousands and fractional,
>Yes, It reads 1 inch per turn of the dial.
>But hell, I've had that one(the later) for a long time. Actually got it in a
>garage I used to work in, it was for measuring universal joint end caps.

Dial indicator?

or

Dial caliper?

UA100

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"Anthony Diodati"

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

31/12/2003 10:08 PM

Well, The one I have in the den reads .100 of an inch per turn of the dial.
10 turns of the dial = 1 inch.
But the one I have in the basement, that reads in thousands and fractional,
Yes, It reads 1 inch per turn of the dial.
But hell, I've had that one(the later) for a long time. Actually got it in a
garage I used to work in, it was for measuring universal joint end caps.

Thanks, Tony D.
>
"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK, I'll admit I don't always have a complete grasp of
> things but I'm wondering, is the copy writer at Woodcraft
> maybe not in full understandment of what it is he's doing?
>
> Direct Cut 'N Paste From Woodcraft Web Page
>
>
>
> Product Number 143963
> Fractional Dial Caliper
> "It didn't exist so we had it made for us! One turn of the
> dial equals an inch, a feature that no other dial caliper
> has."
>
>
>
> Now, I've used a dial caliper from time to time (OK, every
> time I'm in the shop) and all the dial calipers I've used
> measured an inch with one revolution of the dial.
>
> Like I said, I don't always have a complete grasp of things.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Anyone?
>
> Buehler?
>
> UA100, who thinks maybe there aren't any woodworkers left at
> Woodcraft...

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

01/01/2004 10:39 PM


"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have this one:
>
>
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=46036&category=1,43513,43546&abspage=1&ccurrency=2&SID=
>
> Yes, the dial measures one inch for each revolution. I use it all the
time; no
> wooddorker should be without one.

Just beat me to it Steve. Don't have one, but did look it up & *drool* for a
while.

Nahmie

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

02/01/2004 2:09 AM

I have this one:

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=46036&category=1,43513,43546&abspage=1&ccurrency=2&SID=

Yes, the dial measures one inch for each revolution. I use it all the time; no
wooddorker should be without one.

Unisaw A100 wrote:
> OK, I'll admit I don't always have a complete grasp of
> things but I'm wondering, is the copy writer at Woodcraft
> maybe not in full understandment of what it is he's doing?
>
> Direct Cut 'N Paste From Woodcraft Web Page
>
>
>
> Product Number 143963
> Fractional Dial Caliper
> "It didn’t exist so we had it made for us! One turn of the
> dial equals an inch, a feature that no other dial caliper
> has."
>
>
>
> Now, I've used a dial caliper from time to time (OK, every
> time I'm in the shop) and all the dial calipers I've used
> measured an inch with one revolution of the dial.
>
> Like I said, I don't always have a complete grasp of things.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Anyone?
>
> Buehler?
>
> UA100, who thinks maybe there aren't any woodworkers left at
> Woodcraft...

--
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UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

01/01/2004 7:38 AM

DJ Delorie >
>Mine is 1/10 inch per revolution. I checked the Grizzly catalog, and
>0.1" is the most per rev they have - others are even less per rev.

That sounds like a dial *indicator*. The item being sold at
Woodcraft is a dial *caliper*.

UA100

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

01/01/2004 7:23 PM

Steve Dunbar wrote:
>No, that sounds like a dial caliper. Every dial caliper I've ever
>used--Brown & Sharpe, Mitutoyo, or El Cheapo Chinese--reads .1" (1/10") per
>revolution, and has a resolution of .001". There are some really cheap
>plastic dial calipers which read 1" per rev., but they only have a
>resolution of .01".



I'm sorry. I've been way off base here. I thought we
were talking about calipers for use in wooddorking,
not for measuring the thickness of our pubic hairs.

Please accept my apologies.

UA100, doing fine with his cheap "one revolution equals an
inch just like God and Al Gore intended it to be" caliper...

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

31/12/2003 11:29 PM

Greg G. said:

>different models. One is nylon plastic by Hemp, and the other is a
>stainless from Highland Hardware.

Incidentally, they both are 1" per revolution as well..


Greg G.

SD

Steve Dunbar

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

01/01/2004 10:28 AM

Unisaw A100 wrote:

> DJ Delorie >
>>Mine is 1/10 inch per revolution. I checked the Grizzly catalog, and
>>0.1" is the most per rev they have - others are even less per rev.
>
> That sounds like a dial *indicator*. The item being sold at
> Woodcraft is a dial *caliper*.

No, that sounds like a dial caliper. Every dial caliper I've ever
used--Brown & Sharpe, Mitutoyo, or El Cheapo Chinese--reads .1" (1/10") per
revolution, and has a resolution of .001". There are some really cheap
plastic dial calipers which read 1" per rev., but they only have a
resolution of .01".

--
--
Steve

DD

DJ Delorie

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

01/01/2004 2:53 PM


Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> writes:
> That sounds like a dial *indicator*. The item being sold at
> Woodcraft is a dial *caliper*.

No, it's a dial *caliper*. Measures thickness of wood and such, 4"
range, $20 at Grizzly. I happen to have a dial *indicator* also, same
0.1"/rev.

DD

DJ Delorie

in reply to Unisaw A100 on 01/01/2004 1:54 AM

31/12/2003 9:13 PM


Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> writes:
> Now, I've used a dial caliper from time to time (OK, every
> time I'm in the shop) and all the dial calipers I've used
> measured an inch with one revolution of the dial.

Mine is 1/10 inch per revolution. I checked the Grizzly catalog, and
0.1" is the most per rev they have - others are even less per rev.


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