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"Sean Dees"

09/02/2005 5:20 AM

Specific Shelf Supports Required. Can't find them anywhere....?

Hello,
I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't seem to
find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your bookcase in
3/4" or 1" slots.
The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of metal bent
at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems in the
design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to the floor.
Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the support.
There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal. If I were
to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support was, I could
push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on that edge,
thus ruining the book.
If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would really
appreciate it.
Thanks, Sean.



This topic has 12 replies

Tt

"Tina"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

09/02/2005 5:08 AM

Are you refering to shelf standards?? if so here's a link..hope this helps
http://doityourself.com/store/6056410.htm

Tina

"Rumpy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've never seen one like that and I doubt it would be strong enough to
> support books. The rest of us use shelf pins to prevent the problem you
> describe.
>
> Several styles are shown here:
>
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_group.cfm?&catid=15&objectgroup_id=45&segment_id=3
>
>
> "Sean Dees" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello,
> > I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't seem to
> > find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your bookcase in
> > 3/4" or 1" slots.
> > The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of metal
bent
> > at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
> > This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems in the
> > design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to the
> > floor.
> > Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
> > perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the support.
> > There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal. If I
were
> > to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support was, I
could
> > push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on that
edge,
> > thus ruining the book.
> > If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would really
> > appreciate it.
> > Thanks, Sean.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

09/02/2005 4:43 PM

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&cat=3,43648&p=43649

Sean Dees wrote:

> Hello,
> I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't seem to
> find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your bookcase in
> 3/4" or 1" slots.
>

BF

"Buck Frobisher"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

15/02/2005 7:59 PM

"TINY" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just send a friend over to ask about them

Yeah, always remember, "It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone
shorts!"

--
"Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs."

regards,

Frank Johansen
Aurora, Ontario

DB

Duane Bozarth

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

09/02/2005 6:41 PM

Sean wrote:
>
> Yes, I have seen them. They are in a local bookstore. Unfortunately I can
> not ask them where they got them because I am the competition.
...

Maybe you can investigate just enough to see if there's a manufacturer
stamp on one? I've never seen such an animal as you describe either...

RR

"Rumpy"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

09/02/2005 12:55 PM

Here's the closest I've seen. It's still 1/2" thick, but designed to fit
into a groove on the bottom of the shelf.
They Call it a "floating Bracket"

http://www.rakks.com/products/brackets.html

"Sean Dees" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't seem to
> find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your bookcase in
> 3/4" or 1" slots.
> The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of metal bent
> at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
> This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems in the
> design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to the
> floor.
> Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
> perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the support.
> There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal. If I were
> to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support was, I could
> push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on that edge,
> thus ruining the book.
> If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would really
> appreciate it.
> Thanks, Sean.
>
>
>

RR

"Rumpy"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

09/02/2005 12:26 PM

Have you ever seen one? Or do you just want one?


"Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am looking for a different type of shelf support than you usually see.
>The
> piece that connects to the "shelf standard", and holds up the shelf, is
> not
> a vertical piece that I want but a flat piece. It would look a little bit
> like a standard shelf "clip" if the shelf clip were 10" long instead of
> the
> usual 1" to 1 1/2" or so.
> Anyone else seen something like that?
> Thanks, Sean.
>
> "Tina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:QSlOd.22190$Vg3.9961@lakeread05...
>> Here's another link.................for shelf standards
>>
>> http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=123-464
>>
>> Tina
>> "Tina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:%hlOd.22188$Vg3.5814@lakeread05...
>> > Are you refering to shelf standards?? if so here's a link..hope this
> helps
>> > http://doityourself.com/store/6056410.htm
>> >
>> > Tina
>> >
>> > "Rumpy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> > > I've never seen one like that and I doubt it would be strong enough
>> > > to
>> > > support books. The rest of us use shelf pins to prevent the problem
> you
>> > > describe.
>> > >
>> > > Several styles are shown here:
>> > >
>> >
>>
> http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_group.cfm?&catid=15&objectgroup_id=45&s
> egment_id=3
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Sean Dees" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > > news:[email protected]...
>> > > > Hello,
>> > > > I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't
> seem
>> to
>> > > > find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your
> bookcase
>> in
>> > > > 3/4" or 1" slots.
>> > > > The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of
> metal
>> > bent
>> > > > at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
>> > > > This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems in
>> the
>> > > > design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to
>> > > > the
>> > > > floor.
>> > > > Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
>> > > > perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the support.
>> > > > There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal. If
> I
>> > were
>> > > > to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support was,
>> > > > I
>> > could
>> > > > push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on
>> > > > that
>> > edge,
>> > > > thus ruining the book.
>> > > > If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would
>> > > > really
>> > > > appreciate it.
>> > > > Thanks, Sean.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>

Tt

"Tina"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

09/02/2005 5:47 AM

Here's another link.................for shelf standards

http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=123-464

Tina
"Tina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%hlOd.22188$Vg3.5814@lakeread05...
> Are you refering to shelf standards?? if so here's a link..hope this helps
> http://doityourself.com/store/6056410.htm
>
> Tina
>
> "Rumpy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I've never seen one like that and I doubt it would be strong enough to
> > support books. The rest of us use shelf pins to prevent the problem you
> > describe.
> >
> > Several styles are shown here:
> >
>
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_group.cfm?&catid=15&objectgroup_id=45&segment_id=3
> >
> >
> > "Sean Dees" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hello,
> > > I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't seem
to
> > > find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your bookcase
in
> > > 3/4" or 1" slots.
> > > The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of metal
> bent
> > > at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
> > > This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems in
the
> > > design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to the
> > > floor.
> > > Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
> > > perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the support.
> > > There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal. If I
> were
> > > to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support was, I
> could
> > > push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on that
> edge,
> > > thus ruining the book.
> > > If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would really
> > > appreciate it.
> > > Thanks, Sean.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

TT

"TINY"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

10/02/2005 3:23 AM

Just send a friend over to ask about them
"Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes, I have seen them. They are in a local bookstore. Unfortunately I can
> not ask them where they got them because I am the competition.
> Sean.
> "Rumpy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Have you ever seen one? Or do you just want one?
>>
>>
>> "Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >I am looking for a different type of shelf support than you usually see.
>> >The
>> > piece that connects to the "shelf standard", and holds up the shelf,
>> > is
>> > not
>> > a vertical piece that I want but a flat piece. It would look a little
> bit
>> > like a standard shelf "clip" if the shelf clip were 10" long instead of
>> > the
>> > usual 1" to 1 1/2" or so.
>> > Anyone else seen something like that?
>> > Thanks, Sean.
>> >
>> > "Tina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:QSlOd.22190$Vg3.9961@lakeread05...
>> >> Here's another link.................for shelf standards
>> >>
>> >> http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=123-464
>> >>
>> >> Tina
>> >> "Tina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> news:%hlOd.22188$Vg3.5814@lakeread05...
>> >> > Are you refering to shelf standards?? if so here's a link..hope this
>> > helps
>> >> > http://doityourself.com/store/6056410.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > Tina
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rumpy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> > > I've never seen one like that and I doubt it would be strong
>> >> > > enough
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > support books. The rest of us use shelf pins to prevent the
> problem
>> > you
>> >> > > describe.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Several styles are shown here:
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
> http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_group.cfm?&catid=15&objectgroup_id=45&s
>> > egment_id=3
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Sean Dees" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:[email protected]...
>> >> > > > Hello,
>> >> > > > I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't
>> > seem
>> >> to
>> >> > > > find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your
>> > bookcase
>> >> in
>> >> > > > 3/4" or 1" slots.
>> >> > > > The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of
>> > metal
>> >> > bent
>> >> > > > at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
>> >> > > > This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems
> in
>> >> the
>> >> > > > design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > floor.
>> >> > > > Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
>> >> > > > perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the
>> >> > > > support.
>> >> > > > There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal.
> If
>> > I
>> >> > were
>> >> > > > to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support
> was,
>> >> > > > I
>> >> > could
>> >> > > > push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on
>> >> > > > that
>> >> > edge,
>> >> > > > thus ruining the book.
>> >> > > > If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would
>> >> > > > really
>> >> > > > appreciate it.
>> >> > > > Thanks, Sean.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>

SS

"Sean"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

09/02/2005 6:57 PM

I am looking for a different type of shelf support than you usually see. The
piece that connects to the "shelf standard", and holds up the shelf, is not
a vertical piece that I want but a flat piece. It would look a little bit
like a standard shelf "clip" if the shelf clip were 10" long instead of the
usual 1" to 1 1/2" or so.
Anyone else seen something like that?
Thanks, Sean.

"Tina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:QSlOd.22190$Vg3.9961@lakeread05...
> Here's another link.................for shelf standards
>
> http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=123-464
>
> Tina
> "Tina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%hlOd.22188$Vg3.5814@lakeread05...
> > Are you refering to shelf standards?? if so here's a link..hope this
helps
> > http://doityourself.com/store/6056410.htm
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > "Rumpy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I've never seen one like that and I doubt it would be strong enough to
> > > support books. The rest of us use shelf pins to prevent the problem
you
> > > describe.
> > >
> > > Several styles are shown here:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_group.cfm?&catid=15&objectgroup_id=45&s
egment_id=3
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sean Dees" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't
seem
> to
> > > > find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your
bookcase
> in
> > > > 3/4" or 1" slots.
> > > > The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of
metal
> > bent
> > > > at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
> > > > This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems in
> the
> > > > design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to the
> > > > floor.
> > > > Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
> > > > perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the support.
> > > > There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal. If
I
> > were
> > > > to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support was, I
> > could
> > > > push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on that
> > edge,
> > > > thus ruining the book.
> > > > If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would really
> > > > appreciate it.
> > > > Thanks, Sean.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


SS

"Sean"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

10/02/2005 12:20 AM

Yes, I have seen them. They are in a local bookstore. Unfortunately I can
not ask them where they got them because I am the competition.
Sean.
"Rumpy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Have you ever seen one? Or do you just want one?
>
>
> "Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I am looking for a different type of shelf support than you usually see.
> >The
> > piece that connects to the "shelf standard", and holds up the shelf, is
> > not
> > a vertical piece that I want but a flat piece. It would look a little
bit
> > like a standard shelf "clip" if the shelf clip were 10" long instead of
> > the
> > usual 1" to 1 1/2" or so.
> > Anyone else seen something like that?
> > Thanks, Sean.
> >
> > "Tina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:QSlOd.22190$Vg3.9961@lakeread05...
> >> Here's another link.................for shelf standards
> >>
> >> http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=123-464
> >>
> >> Tina
> >> "Tina" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:%hlOd.22188$Vg3.5814@lakeread05...
> >> > Are you refering to shelf standards?? if so here's a link..hope this
> > helps
> >> > http://doityourself.com/store/6056410.htm
> >> >
> >> > Tina
> >> >
> >> > "Rumpy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[email protected]...
> >> > > I've never seen one like that and I doubt it would be strong enough
> >> > > to
> >> > > support books. The rest of us use shelf pins to prevent the
problem
> > you
> >> > > describe.
> >> > >
> >> > > Several styles are shown here:
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_group.cfm?&catid=15&objectgroup_id=45&s
> > egment_id=3
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Sean Dees" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > > news:[email protected]...
> >> > > > Hello,
> >> > > > I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't
> > seem
> >> to
> >> > > > find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your
> > bookcase
> >> in
> >> > > > 3/4" or 1" slots.
> >> > > > The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of
> > metal
> >> > bent
> >> > > > at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
> >> > > > This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems
in
> >> the
> >> > > > design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > floor.
> >> > > > Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
> >> > > > perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the support.
> >> > > > There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal.
If
> > I
> >> > were
> >> > > > to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support
was,
> >> > > > I
> >> > could
> >> > > > push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on
> >> > > > that
> >> > edge,
> >> > > > thus ruining the book.
> >> > > > If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would
> >> > > > really
> >> > > > appreciate it.
> >> > > > Thanks, Sean.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>


RR

"Rumpy"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

08/02/2005 10:23 PM

I've never seen one like that and I doubt it would be strong enough to
support books. The rest of us use shelf pins to prevent the problem you
describe.

Several styles are shown here:
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_group.cfm?&catid=15&objectgroup_id=45&segment_id=3


"Sean Dees" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't seem to
> find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your bookcase in
> 3/4" or 1" slots.
> The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of metal bent
> at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
> This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems in the
> design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to the
> floor.
> Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
> perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the support.
> There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal. If I were
> to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support was, I could
> push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on that edge,
> thus ruining the book.
> If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would really
> appreciate it.
> Thanks, Sean.
>
>
>

SS

"Sean"

in reply to "Sean Dees" on 09/02/2005 5:20 AM

10/02/2005 12:27 AM

That "floating bracket" is the closest I have seen, but still not quite what
I need. The ones that I saw in a local bookstore looked a little like the
"floating brackets", but they were turned upside down. They also weren't so
fancy. (ie: read "expensive". I will be buying about 700 hundred of them, so
the price is a factor. At $11.00 each for an 8" bracket, it is too much.)
The ones that I saw also looked like they fit into more common looking
"standards". (With vertical slots every inch or two.)
Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Sean.

"Rumpy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here's the closest I've seen. It's still 1/2" thick, but designed to fit
> into a groove on the bottom of the shelf.
> They Call it a "floating Bracket"
>
> http://www.rakks.com/products/brackets.html
>
> "Sean Dees" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello,
> > I am looking for a specific style of shelf supports that I can't seem to
> > find anywhere. They are mounted to rails at the back of your bookcase in
> > 3/4" or 1" slots.
> > The bracket that hold up the shelf is virtually a flat piece of metal
bent
> > at 90 degrees that hooks into the metal rail.
> > This is different from most other shelf support and rail systems in the
> > design of the support. The flat side of the metal is parallel to the
> > floor.
> > Most of the other rail systems have the flat side of the support
> > perpendicular to the floor to give extra strength to the support.
> > There is a specifice reason for having the flat side horizontal. If I
were
> > to put a book onto a shelf without checking where the support was, I
could
> > push it back into the shelf support and squash all the pages on that
edge,
> > thus ruining the book.
> > If anyone has any ideas where to find such a support, I would really
> > appreciate it.
> > Thanks, Sean.
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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