Jt

"JACK"

25/12/2007 5:27 PM

For The Turners

I posted this in another group as well so if you get it twice, I apologize,
just looking for all advice possible advice.

Ok, I need advise from the experts and from those who have made mistakes.

My brother in law just gave me 6 deer antler sets to make pens. Anyone
out there have any experience? Anyone tried and screwed up, but know why
they screwed up?

Some basic questions:

Any curing / aging / drying need to be checked or take place?

Whats the best way to cut them?

Any drilling tips?

Gluing tips?

Turning tips - speed, tools, etc?

Anything that you can suggest would be greatly appreciated. I've turned
probably 100 pens, 30 walnut bowls, 6 backscratches, 8 Boxes and made some
other things just for christmas. So I have some experience, just never
attempted Deer Antler. Thanks in advance.

Jack Wynn
Atlanta, GA



This topic has 8 replies

Jt

"JACK"

in reply to "JACK" on 25/12/2007 5:27 PM

26/12/2007 8:15 PM

Where in Atlanta?

Alpharetta here.

Jack






"Greg G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> JACK said:
>
>>My brother in law just gave me 6 deer antler sets to make pens. Anyone
>>out there have any experience? Anyone tried and screwed up, but know why
>>they screwed up?
>
> Jack, they stink to high heaven when machined.
> Other than that, nothing extraordinary.
>
> Greg
> Also in Atlanta
>
>
> Greg G.

Jt

"JACK"

in reply to "JACK" on 25/12/2007 5:27 PM

27/12/2007 6:25 PM

Wow, that pic is gorgeous, nice job. Also, do you know of a good hardwood
source? I know Atlanta Hardwoods, but they can be kinda pricey. There
also used to be a good plywood source in Kennesaw, but they seem to be gone
or have moved. I can't remember they're name anyway.

Getting ready to build an entertainment center out of Red Oak. Originally I
was going to be able to use mostly 3/4 plywood, but now I'm afraid I'm going
to have to use all 3/4 planks. Just looking to save some money.

Any ideas?

jack
"Greg G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> JACK said:
>
>>Where in Atlanta?
>>
>>Alpharetta here.
>
> Unincorporated Cobb between Fulton County and Sminings.
> 8 minutes to Buckhead, 20 minutes to Mare-retta. 12 minutes to
> Rockler. 16 minutes to Highland Hardware. Worked for a decade in
> Roswell, Dunwoody, and Sandy Spring when Alpharetta (and Roswell for
> that matter) were horse farms and Dairy Queens. Most old customers
> lived there. Cobb, however, remains the puss pocket it always was.
>
> I mostly turn stuff like this:
> http://webpages.charter.net/videodoctor/images/cherry_pwalnut01.jpg
> I'm thinking of starting a new theme based series of turnings.
> Pettifoggers, Politicians, & Machinery will be initial efforts. ;-)
>
> Good luck with the antler turnings, I see you have gotten more useful
> advice from others. I've tried to find alternate materials locally,
> alabaster and raw turquoise for instance, but have had little luck.
> Miami, Chicago, LA and NYC seem to be the primary outlets for artistic
> supplies, yet ordering sight unseen is risky and/or shipping = $$.
> Lots of fake turquoise going around these days.
>
>
> Greg G.

Jt

"JACK"

in reply to "JACK" on 25/12/2007 5:27 PM

28/12/2007 3:58 PM

Thanks, I did get prices from Peach State, and now from Suwanee. Will try
Sweetwater, hadn't heard about that one.

As far as McClendon's, I love the place. But like you, I'm selective in
what I buy from there. Mostly solid pieces for turning. I don't know if
you've been there in a while, but he has one piece of Ebony downstairs that
I would just love to have. Its a bench seat (or the approximate size of
one and about 4 inches thick) and its absolutely stunning. But for 2
grand, its just kinda out of my league. I do however love to walk through
his shop and just drool ocassionaly with no particular purpose. LOL!

Thanks for the tip, I'll call Sweetwater.

Jack
"Greg G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> JACK said:
>
>>Wow, that pic is gorgeous, nice job. Also, do you know of a good
>>hardwood
>>source? I know Atlanta Hardwoods, but they can be kinda pricey. There
>>also used to be a good plywood source in Kennesaw, but they seem to be
>>gone
>>or have moved. I can't remember they're name anyway.
>>
>>Getting ready to build an entertainment center out of Red Oak. Originally
>>I
>>was going to be able to use mostly 3/4 plywood, but now I'm afraid I'm
>>going
>>to have to use all 3/4 planks. Just looking to save some money.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>
> Thanks for the kudos. Lots of time for little net worth, however.
> As for local suppliers, although I watched them build the place in my
> teens, I have found Atlanta Hardwoods/Atlanta Wood Products Center
> et.al. to be a little dodgy in their pricing - i.e. 7% addition for
> kiln shrinkage, 11% for straight line ripping, etc. Peach State
> Lumber Products in Kennesaw prices outright, fairly good prices for
> this area, and the people are quite friendly. They stock many
> "exotics", #3 cherry in bulk, plywoods, and Ipe. It is the last place
> I purchased from. Carlton's Rare Woods in Atlanta has faded since the
> founder died a couple of years ago. Watch what you buy, as the poor
> storage conditions lead to mold and possibly gluing and finishing
> problems. There is a place in Austell called Sweetwater Lumber, but
> it's been a few years since I've been there. Their stock was mostly
> limited to what the local cabinet makers used. Most of the local
> shops have since gone out of business and I have no idea what that has
> done to pricing/stock.
>
> As for the planks vs. plywood, You may well be aware of this, but
> watch for and plan for expansion of the panels when using raw wood.
> The last price I got on 3/4" Red Oak ply at Peach State was $50 sheet
> for shop grade, $64 for B-2 veneer core, and $53 for B-2 fibre core.
> Price break at 5+ pieces.
>
> Plan on wood is going up.. and up...
>
> Good Luck,
>
>
> Greg G.

nn

in reply to "JACK" on 25/12/2007 5:27 PM

25/12/2007 9:51 PM

Jack... one could type for hours. Or, check out this link as it will
keep you busy for a while due to the fact it has been exhaustively
discussed on the woodturning NG.

http://tinyurl.com/2ajwty

Good luck. I have seen some nice things turned from antler, and have
about five pounds of moose antler waiting for me to decide what to do
with it. (At this point I am thinking knife scales.)

One thing that seems to be a common theme though, and that is to make
sure it has cured out (you will know if it is mealy or bloody when you
drill it) and that you do not apply a finish on the antler. Get out
your Beall polishing kit and gently work through the compounds until
mirror bright.

Robert

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "JACK" on 25/12/2007 5:27 PM

25/12/2007 8:41 PM

JACK said:

>My brother in law just gave me 6 deer antler sets to make pens. Anyone
>out there have any experience? Anyone tried and screwed up, but know why
>they screwed up?

Jack, they stink to high heaven when machined.
Other than that, nothing extraordinary.

Greg
Also in Atlanta


Greg G.

Dd

"DanG"

in reply to "JACK" on 25/12/2007 5:27 PM

25/12/2007 8:22 PM

The smell of working bone or antler is memorable.

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"Greg G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> JACK said:
>
>>My brother in law just gave me 6 deer antler sets to make pens.
>>Anyone
>>out there have any experience? Anyone tried and screwed up,
>>but know why
>>they screwed up?
>
> Jack, they stink to high heaven when machined.
> Other than that, nothing extraordinary.
>
> Greg
> Also in Atlanta
>
>
> Greg G.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "JACK" on 25/12/2007 5:27 PM

27/12/2007 1:01 AM

JACK said:

>Where in Atlanta?
>
>Alpharetta here.

Unincorporated Cobb between Fulton County and Sminings.
8 minutes to Buckhead, 20 minutes to Mare-retta. 12 minutes to
Rockler. 16 minutes to Highland Hardware. Worked for a decade in
Roswell, Dunwoody, and Sandy Spring when Alpharetta (and Roswell for
that matter) were horse farms and Dairy Queens. Most old customers
lived there. Cobb, however, remains the puss pocket it always was.

I mostly turn stuff like this:
http://webpages.charter.net/videodoctor/images/cherry_pwalnut01.jpg
I'm thinking of starting a new theme based series of turnings.
Pettifoggers, Politicians, & Machinery will be initial efforts. ;-)

Good luck with the antler turnings, I see you have gotten more useful
advice from others. I've tried to find alternate materials locally,
alabaster and raw turquoise for instance, but have had little luck.
Miami, Chicago, LA and NYC seem to be the primary outlets for artistic
supplies, yet ordering sight unseen is risky and/or shipping = $$.
Lots of fake turquoise going around these days.


Greg G.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "JACK" on 25/12/2007 5:27 PM

27/12/2007 9:04 PM

JACK said:

>Wow, that pic is gorgeous, nice job. Also, do you know of a good hardwood
>source? I know Atlanta Hardwoods, but they can be kinda pricey. There
>also used to be a good plywood source in Kennesaw, but they seem to be gone
>or have moved. I can't remember they're name anyway.
>
>Getting ready to build an entertainment center out of Red Oak. Originally I
>was going to be able to use mostly 3/4 plywood, but now I'm afraid I'm going
>to have to use all 3/4 planks. Just looking to save some money.
>
>Any ideas?

Thanks for the kudos. Lots of time for little net worth, however.
As for local suppliers, although I watched them build the place in my
teens, I have found Atlanta Hardwoods/Atlanta Wood Products Center
et.al. to be a little dodgy in their pricing - i.e. 7% addition for
kiln shrinkage, 11% for straight line ripping, etc. Peach State
Lumber Products in Kennesaw prices outright, fairly good prices for
this area, and the people are quite friendly. They stock many
"exotics", #3 cherry in bulk, plywoods, and Ipe. It is the last place
I purchased from. Carlton's Rare Woods in Atlanta has faded since the
founder died a couple of years ago. Watch what you buy, as the poor
storage conditions lead to mold and possibly gluing and finishing
problems. There is a place in Austell called Sweetwater Lumber, but
it's been a few years since I've been there. Their stock was mostly
limited to what the local cabinet makers used. Most of the local
shops have since gone out of business and I have no idea what that has
done to pricing/stock.

As for the planks vs. plywood, You may well be aware of this, but
watch for and plan for expansion of the panels when using raw wood.
The last price I got on 3/4" Red Oak ply at Peach State was $50 sheet
for shop grade, $64 for B-2 veneer core, and $53 for B-2 fibre core.
Price break at 5+ pieces.

Plan on wood is going up.. and up...

Good Luck,


Greg G.


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