Greetings and Salutations....
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:58:03 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>Sandpaper is not used for sharpening plane blades... you need to use
>an oil stone... available in good quality at any woodworkers type
>store.
>
Ok...I will grab the hook. What the heck. It's Christmas
Day.
It might be a good idea to go over to groups.google.com
and do a search for "scary sharp".
The fact of the matter is that sandpaper IS used for
sharpening blades of all sorts, and, works very well.
Oilstones are good, true enough, and, perhaps better in
the long run. However, to get the blade "sharp enough" requires
several grades, including some pretty expensive ones.
>Besides, I for one, have never heard of sandpaper in 1200 grit... the
>finest I've ever seen is 600.
>
Well, let me educate you - *smile*. Sandpaper comes in grits
as fine or finer than 10,000. However, you will NOT find this
stuff at the BORG. For the finer grits you will need to go to
a good auto parts store, and poke around in the paint section. They,
as a matter of course, have grits up to about 6000, and, can order
grits that are much finer.
For folks that are doing massive amounts of sharpening,
it makes a lot of sense to invest in a good sharpening system.
However, I suspect they would go with a Tormek or similar powered
system. For those of us that DON'T have to sharpen the planes
every couple of weeks we use them so much, a nice flat surface
(Chunk of marble, glass, cast iron) and a pack of fine
grit papers from the auto store can cheaply and quickly produce
an edge that makes hand-working wood a pleasure.
Regards
Dave Mundt
[email protected] wrote:
> Sandpaper is not used for sharpening plane blades... you need to use
> an oil stone... available in good quality at any woodworkers type
> store.
Nonsense! I've never used anything else to sharpen my plane blades or
chisels.
> Besides, I for one, have never heard of sandpaper in 1200 grit... the
> finest I've ever seen is 600.
Nonsense again. Wal-Mart stocks paper up to 2,000 grit, in the automotive
department.
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:54:37 GMT, "Glen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> While I acknowledge that there are many means to
>the end of sharp irons, I, for one, prefer the Scary Sharp system, am more
>than satisfied with the results, and am not looking for another means of
>sharpening.
I have oil stones, water stones, diamond stones, and sand paper. All
get used for one thing or another.
For my buck, nothing flattens the back and creates the initial edge of
a cutting tool better than sandpaper, lubed with kerosene or WD-40, on
a jointer bed or strip of glass. I'll usually do the back and edge of
a new tool with Scary Sharp, with quick maintenance touch-ups on the
stones.
When I'm totally renewing an edge, out comes the 3M77, lube, and
sandpaper again. <G>
What's nice about doing it on the jointer is that I can lay out grits
from 80 to 2000, all in a line. When I'm done, I use the kerosene or
WD-40 to wipe down the bed and remove the 3M77, followed by a quick
coat of wax. A side benefit is a spotless jointer bed that's always
waxed, slippery,, and clean.
Barry
Hi Folks,
Yitah wrote:
> I'm planning on buying some sandpaper for sharpening planes and the
> like. Any cheap sources for a couple of sheets of the 1200-2000 grit
> stuff?
I'll put in my two cents worth. For initial lapping of my plane
blades and chisels, I have used microabrasive sheets, but I am currently
trying using a diamond "stone" to get the initial tooling marks our of
stubborn pieces before going to the microabrasive. Once you do the
initial setup and honing, the rest should work well with the
microabrasive. It's actually remarkably durable....I have honed many
chisels and plane blades and rehoned them as well on the same set of
microabrasive sheets. You can find both adhesive backed and
non-adhesive backed microabrasive materials in a number of grits at:
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/Merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=toolshop&Category_Code=THS
>
> It's so much cheaper in 50 sheet packs....................
Perhaps so. I think you might be thinking of wet or dry stuff,
but the actual 3M Micro abrasive which has a mylar substrate, I think,
is much more appropriate for the application. There is a very good
explanation of the microabrasive at the same site linked above. The
3M Microabrasive is designed for cutting metal and does a really good
job for me.....
>
> yitah
Good luck
Hanen't been around much? Go here:
http://www.shavings.net/SCARY.HTM#original
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> Sandpaper is not used for sharpening plane blades
Sandpaper is not used for sharpening plane blades... you need to use
an oil stone... available in good quality at any woodworkers type
store.
Besides, I for one, have never heard of sandpaper in 1200 grit... the
finest I've ever seen is 600.
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:38:37 -0500, Yitah <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm planning on buying some sandpaper for sharpening planes and the
>like. Any cheap sources for a couple of sheets of the 1200-2000 grit
>stuff?
>
>It's so much cheaper in 50 sheet packs....................
>
>yitah
I 1st grind my bevel on the belt sander with 100 grit.
Then with a honing guide I use the belt sander laying horizontality (motor
off) ,next on to a medium diamond stone,
Then 1000 grit water stone, 6000 grit water stone, and then 3/0 emory
polishing paper.
The 3/0 leaves a mirror finish.
Sometimes I then go to a leather strop.
Thanks, Tony D.
"Oliver Klosov" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sandpaper is not used for sharpening plane blades... you need to use
> an oil stone... available in good quality at any woodworkers type
> store.
>
> Besides, I for one, have never heard of sandpaper in 1200 grit... the
> finest I've ever seen is 600.
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:38:37 -0500, Yitah <[email protected]>
> wrote:
With all due respect, the most you can say is that YOU prefer not to use
sandpaper on plane irons. While I acknowledge that there are many means to
the end of sharp irons, I, for one, prefer the Scary Sharp system, am more
than satisfied with the results, and am not looking for another means of
sharpening. If I come across a better way, I will consider changing, but
until then . . .
As to the statement that you have never heard of sandpaper above 1200 grit,
I suggest you go to any auto parts store and you will have no trouble
finding 2000, and in many stores you will find even finer. I am not as anal
as some, I finish my sharpening at 2000.
Glen
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I'm planning on buying some sandpaper for sharpening planes and the
> like. Any cheap sources for a couple of sheets of the 1200-2000 grit
> stuff?
>
> It's so much cheaper in 50 sheet packs....................
>
> yitah
>
Instead of ordering it, stop by an automotive paint supply or some auto
part stores that carry auto paint.
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hanen't been around much? Go here:
>http://www.shavings.net/SCARY.HTM
I remember seeing this years ago, back when I first started lurking around this
ng. One trifle: Nitrogen fission is endothermic; in fact, fission of any
element lighter than lead requires a net *input* of energy. Sorry if that
spoils the joke. If you don't recognize the reference, you need to go back and
read the whole webpage given in the above quote -- it's funny and educational,
even if you have to overlook the part about nitrogen fission.
Got to thinking about this just today when my wife mentioned that one of the
kids had a kitchen knife that was "scary sharp". Then I run across this thread
in the wreck & go read about "scary sharp" again... Funny how you'll go months
without hearing or reading something, then run into it twice the same day from
unrelated sources...
All that aside, one of these days I'd like to put a real edge on some chisels,
and maybe even do some Neander-planing. (After the tremendous success I had
with Ray Audette's _NeanderThin_, & Loren Cordain's _The Paleo Diet_)
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Howard wrote:
> months without hearing or reading something, then run into it twice the
> same day from unrelated sources...
Or a corollary to that... You watch some random TV show once. Two years
later, you happen to be in front of the tube, and the same random TV show
is coming on. It will be the exact same episode more often than not.
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:58:03 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>Sandpaper is not used for sharpening plane blades... you need to use
>an oil stone... available in good quality at any woodworkers type
>store.
Sure it is:
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Scary+Sharp&btnG=Google+Search>
In fact it works extremely well.
>
>Besides, I for one, have never heard of sandpaper in 1200 grit... the
>finest I've ever seen is 600.
Norton lists up to 3000 grit here:
<http://www.nortonautomotive.com/catalog/displaytier.asp?tier_id=A160010010020&display=all>
Barry
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:58:03 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>Sandpaper is not used for sharpening plane blades... you need to use
>an oil stone... available in good quality at any woodworkers type
>store.
the ignorant do pontificate authoritatively, eh?
>
>Besides, I for one, have never heard of sandpaper in 1200 grit... the
>finest I've ever seen is 600.
never sharpened anything with it either.