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01/02/2004 11:34 AM

miter box - dual bevel - worth it?

The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?

Why is that? Is it just a novelty?


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bB

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

01/02/2004 7:13 PM

In rec.woodworking
[email protected] wrote:

>The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?
>
>Why is that? Is it just a novelty?

It keeps you from ever having to cut with your stock upside down, which is
nice. Anything to make compound cuts easier on your brain is a good thing.

n

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

02/02/2004 12:51 PM

i've "almost" bought a used RAS several times

i just dont see how a RAS can be accurate - as someone noted the move
"bells" the more room for error. i can appreciate at that line of
thought as it applies to dual bevel (but if it rotates right, it would
seem minimal to also rotate left). but a ras is a whole new pot of
stew. there's that long arm.. and a tilt mechanism on the motor...
just cannot be that accurate.

i'll stick with a scms/cms and my crosscut box on ts

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 16:48:14 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Wht not get a used radial arm saw ,takes alittle more time but does the same
>.....mjh

nR

[email protected] (Robert L. Witte)

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

02/02/2004 10:41 AM

[email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?
>
> Why is that? Is it just a novelty?

Lotsa dual combo saws out there. I have 4 different miter saws all
set up for different tasks. But I wish for the dual compound miter
every time I have to put up crown molding. If you are going to do a
house full of that, the dual mitre will cut down on the learning
curve, the amount of frustration, and make it fun to do. It is well
worth the $$$ for this application.

As for me, when you have a few already, I can't really justify the
price.

Robert

n

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

01/02/2004 11:46 PM

so I am not missing something.. at least I have company if I am.. ;-)

now I have to contemplate selling off my Hit C8FB2, 8.5" SCMS, in
favor of a 12" dual bevel (non slider).

{I see no reason why I'd need more than 8" capacity.. unless it was
rough cut, and then I'd just flip it over and have 16". I'd use my TS
box for precision work}

Does the Dewalt really have the most capacity? The belt drive design
seems to support that boast.

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:05:33 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

>It's NOT a novelty. I have the single bevel Dewalt and constantly wish
>it was a dual type!
>
>dave
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?
>>
>> Why is that? Is it just a novelty?

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

02/02/2004 6:05 AM

It's NOT a novelty. I have the single bevel Dewalt and constantly wish
it was a dual type!

dave

[email protected] wrote:

> The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?
>
> Why is that? Is it just a novelty?

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

02/02/2004 2:48 PM

[email protected] wrote:

> i just dont see how a RAS can be accurate - as someone noted the move
> "bells" the more room for error. i can appreciate at that line of
> thought as it applies to dual bevel (but if it rotates right, it would
> seem minimal to also rotate left). but a ras is a whole new pot of
> stew. there's that long arm.. and a tilt mechanism on the motor...
> just cannot be that accurate.

Actually it can - but, like most tools, a RAS doesn't get that
way by accident. I use framing and machinist's (with a protractor
head) squares to set mine up - and it consistantly does a first
rate job.

This doesn't take anything away from other saw types - but if I
had to choose between a SCMS and a RAS, then the RAS would be my
first choice.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

n

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

01/02/2004 10:56 PM

Yeah.. my initial thought is it's the same logic as having left-right
miter. It almost seems to logical to move left - right on both miter
and bevel.

What am I missing? Why would I not get dual bevel?

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 19:13:33 GMT, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

>In rec.woodworking
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>>The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?
>>
>>Why is that? Is it just a novelty?
>
>It keeps you from ever having to cut with your stock upside down, which is
>nice. Anything to make compound cuts easier on your brain is a good thing.

MH

"Mike Hide"

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

02/02/2004 4:48 PM

Wht not get a used radial arm saw ,takes alittle more time but does the same
.....mjh

--




<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?
>
> Why is that? Is it just a novelty?

Bn

Bridger

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

01/02/2004 11:01 PM

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:34:05 -0700,
[email protected] wrote:

>The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?
>
>Why is that? Is it just a novelty?


hitachi and bosch both have 'em. prolly others also...

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Bridger on 01/02/2004 11:01 PM

02/02/2004 10:21 AM

Bridger responds:

>>The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?
>>
>>Why is that? Is it just a novelty?
>
>
>hitachi and bosch both have 'em. prolly others also...
>

Ridgid had one also. Bosch has 2, IIRC, Hitachi has 3. Makita has one also, may
have had the first.

Not exactly a novelty. It's great for some kinds of work. I'm currently using
the Bosch 4412, and find it nearly indispensible. Also a lot easier to use than
earlier versions.

Charlie Self
"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is
sure."
Mark Twain
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

Bn

Bridger

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

02/02/2004 8:55 AM

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 22:56:13 -0700,
[email protected] wrote:

>Yeah.. my initial thought is it's the same logic as having left-right
>miter. It almost seems to logical to move left - right on both miter
>and bevel.
>
>What am I missing? Why would I not get dual bevel?

1) they're expensive

2) they're more complex mechanically. the motors have angle drives on
them, the pivots have longer throws, etc. it adds up to more to go
wrong and more places for slop and flex to show up.



>
>On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 19:13:33 GMT, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:
>
>>In rec.woodworking
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>The only dual bevel I've seen is the Dewalt 706?
>>>
>>>Why is that? Is it just a novelty?
>>
>>It keeps you from ever having to cut with your stock upside down, which is
>>nice. Anything to make compound cuts easier on your brain is a good thing.

n

in reply to [email protected] on 01/02/2004 11:34 AM

02/02/2004 4:06 PM

well... while I only have 1 now.. Hitachi 8.5" SCMS, I'd be looking to
sell it and pick up the dual bevel.. probably the Dewalt 706. The Hit
goes for 360, and I have a Forrest blade on it. Maybe I can get $370
for it? Dunno.. but I cannot afford to have both.


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