New Ridgid tools info as reported in FWW

If any were lost, it was undoubtably due to the expense of the
"American" jobs vs. the costs of doing the SAME job overseas.
Clif
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:15:43 -0500, "Rumpty"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Leon,
>
>I wonder how many US jobs were lost with this "buyout"?

Frank
I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would think
that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American tool
makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

It seems that most of the posters have bought into the "globilization
is good" mantra that the big corporations have been pushing on us for
the last 20 years. To the point that no one cares anymore if their
fellow Americans lose their (manufacturing) jobs.

But now the Information Industry is in a frenzy because their jobs are
starting to be shipped off to India. I guess every high paying job
here will eventually get shipped off to someplace cheaper.

And then think how nice it will be to get all our products and
services cheaper from some place overseas. Too bad, we won't be able
to afford them because we won't have decent jobs to pay for them.

At least 10% of the country will be better off.






[email protected] (JuiceofChicago) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Frank
> I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
> I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would think
> that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American tool
> makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

Leon,

I wonder how many US jobs were lost with this "buyout"?

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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > That said, IMHO with the exception of the 12 volt 3/8" standard duty
> cordless drill, all the other drills are HEAVY and IMHO the standard one
> seems cheesy. But, given the 90 day bring back policy, it may be worth a
> try.
>
>

[email protected] (JuiceofChicago) writes:

>Frank
>I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
>I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would think
>that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American tool
>makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

NAFTA is only for Canada and Mexico. When was the last time you bought a
power tool made in Canada or Mexico?

The only Canadian made tool I know I have is a General drill press, and it
cost as much or more than anything made in the USA.

Brian Elfert

On 20 Nov 2003 13:55:05 GMT, Brian Elfert <[email protected]> wrote:


>NAFTA is only for Canada and Mexico. When was the last time you bought a
>power tool made in Canada or Mexico?

I'm about to. <G>

I'm thinking of going for a General 3hp cabinet saw.

Barry

On 19 Nov 2003 21:00:34 GMT, [email protected]
(JuiceofChicago) wrote:

>Frank
>I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
>I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would think
>that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American tool
>makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports


No, thank ourselves, our litigious culture and the unions for driving
up the cost of items "made in America"

"JuiceofChicago" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Frank
> I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
> I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would
think
> that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American
tool
> makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

Imagine my dismay...after being an Authorized Warranty service center for
Ryobi (among others) since the days when Ryobi made some very good value
middle of the road tools & a good chunk of Craftsman for Sears & Benchmark
for Home Hardware, they lowered their quality as Techtronic & pump out the
poor quality imported tools under the Ryobi name through Home Depot, now I
find that Rigid (also under Techtronic but billed as more heavier duty tools
than Ryobi) now falls under Barrett Marketing in Canada who I do the Ryobi
Warranty service for & buy the Ryobi parts through. Which means that we will
soon be sent the Rigid customers who have problems with their tools
too....not to mention the same deal with McCulloch who also makes most of
the Canadian Tires Mastercraft tools. It seems we may end up servicing more
& more crap.

My point being that I hate giving a repaired tool back to a customer that
was not well made in the first place....regardless of warranties blah blah
blah...garbage in garbage out.

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for sure that just ain't so." --- Mark Twain


"Clif" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 19 Nov 2003 21:00:34 GMT, [email protected]
> (JuiceofChicago) wrote:
>
> >Frank
> >I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
> >I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would
think
> >that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American
tool
> >makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports
>
>
> No, thank ourselves, our litigious culture and the unions for driving
> up the cost of items "made in America"

"JuiceofChicago" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
> I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would
think
> that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American
tool
> makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

I think making it more profitable for businesses to keep thier production
here is a better solution than taxing imports. Don't you realize who pays
for those taxes? (hint ---> the consumer)

Frank

Probably none. I wonder how many Taiwan jobs were lost and then recovered..
'~)


"Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon,
>
> I wonder how many US jobs were lost with this "buyout"?
>
> --
>
> Rumpty
>
> Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
>
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>
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > > That said, IMHO with the exception of the 12 volt 3/8" standard duty
> > cordless drill, all the other drills are HEAVY and IMHO the standard one
> > seems cheesy. But, given the 90 day bring back policy, it may be worth
a
> > try.
> >
> >
>
>

[email protected] (JuiceofChicago) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Frank
> I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are
> made. I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here,
> you would think that our government would pose a tax on import tools
> and protect American tool makers but thank NAFTA for all of the
> imports

Really? How many of those imports that offend you so much come from Mexico
or Canada? Nafta doesn't really have anything at all to do with any other
trade except with those two countries.
Perhaps it's time that people started to realize that the industrial
age is over in this country. The information age is here. Those that adapt
thrive, those that don't fail. It's really very simple.

[email protected] (JuiceofChicago) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Frank
> I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are
> made. I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here,
> you would think that our government would pose a tax on import tools
> and protect American tool makers

It would benefit American tool makers, but only at the expense of all
other Americans, in the form of higher prices.

TANSTAAFL


>but thank NAFTA for all of the
> imports

Frank, this has been going on LONG before NAFTA. It is just that there some
people in this world that get paid less for the same work and the job goes
to those people.



"JuiceofChicago" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Frank
> I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
> I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would
think
> that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American
tool
> makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

On 19 Nov 2003 21:00:34 GMT, [email protected]
(JuiceofChicago) wrote:

>I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
>I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would think
>that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American tool
>makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

Why would you buy crappy, overpriced tools made in the US when you can
buy something quality and much cheaper made overseas? The whole "rah
rah, go USA" nonsense only ends up encouraging US companies to provide
crap because someone will buy it because it has a US flag on the side.

"P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº3" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "JuiceofChicago" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Frank
> > I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
> > I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would
> think
> > that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect
American
> tool
> > makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports
>
> Imagine my dismay...after being an Authorized Warranty service center for
> Ryobi (among others) since the days when Ryobi made some very good value
> middle of the road tools & a good chunk of Craftsman for Sears & Benchmark
> for Home Hardware, they lowered their quality as Techtronic & pump out the
> poor quality imported tools under the Ryobi name through Home Depot, now I
> find that Rigid (also under Techtronic but billed as more heavier duty
tools
> than Ryobi) now falls under Barrett Marketing in Canada who I do the Ryobi
> Warranty service for & buy the Ryobi parts through. Which means that we
will
> soon be sent the Rigid customers who have problems with their tools
> too....not to mention the same deal with McCulloch who also makes most of
> the Canadian Tires Mastercraft tools. It seems we may end up servicing
more
> & more crap.
>
> My point being that I hate giving a repaired tool back to a customer that
> was not well made in the first place....regardless of warranties blah blah
> blah...garbage in garbage out.
>
> --
> © Jon Down ®
> http://www.stores.ebay.com/jdpowertoolcanada
>

I have the Ridgid 13" planer, and am very happy. So happy, in fact, that I
just recently bought the Ridgid 3650 table saw, which is very well made,
IMO.

This was true of Dell. They farmed out their corporate support help to
India. However within a few months rethought and moved support back to the
states. Customers were put off by several issues with the upshot being that
the savings of off-shore support did not balance out with the complaints
they were receiving from customers.




"Walker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It seems that most of the posters have bought into the "globilization
> is good" mantra that the big corporations have been pushing on us for
> the last 20 years. To the point that no one cares anymore if their
> fellow Americans lose their (manufacturing) jobs.
>
> But now the Information Industry is in a frenzy because their jobs are
> starting to be shipped off to India. I guess every high paying job
> here will eventually get shipped off to someplace cheaper.
>
> And then think how nice it will be to get all our products and
> services cheaper from some place overseas. Too bad, we won't be able
> to afford them because we won't have decent jobs to pay for them.
>
> At least 10% of the country will be better off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [email protected] (JuiceofChicago) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Frank
> > I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
> > I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would
think
> > that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect
American tool
> > makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

Walker wrote:

> It seems that most of the posters have bought into the "globilization
> is good" mantra that the big corporations have been pushing on us for
> the last 20 years. To the point that no one cares anymore if their
> fellow Americans lose their (manufacturing) jobs.
>
> But now the Information Industry is in a frenzy because their jobs are
> starting to be shipped off to India. I guess every high paying job
> here will eventually get shipped off to someplace cheaper.
>
> And then think how nice it will be to get all our products and
> services cheaper from some place overseas. Too bad, we won't be able
> to afford them because we won't have decent jobs to pay for them.
>
> At least 10% of the country will be better off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [email protected] (JuiceofChicago) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> Frank
>> I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
>> I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would
>> think that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect
>> American tool makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

It's called world domination by the huge corporations. The Government could
careless about the common person. It's all about how much they can line
their pockets. I buy only Porter Cable but who knows where they are built
anymore.

Rich

--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"

Please don't bring politics into this forum. Enjoy the smells and
intricacies of working with wood, and leave the "flag waving", "union
support/hatred" (choose one), and the "made in America bandwagon" to another
group.

"JuiceofChicago" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Frank
> I wish that people would pay more attention were there tool's are made.
> I know it drives me crazy to buy tools that are not made here, you would
think
> that our government would pose a tax on import tools and protect American
tool
> makers but thank NAFTA for all of the imports

"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Snip

>
> Now I am glad I didn't buy that cordless drill I was looking at a week
ago.
> It doesn't sound to me like the Ridge tool company has a lot of faith in
the
> new line and are going the way of Crapsman.
>
> I guess only time will tell.
> Frank


To clarify the new warranty a bit more per the new Ridgid Rep, From Sep 1
through Dec 31, 2003, ALL of the new Ridgid tools built by OWT will have a
life time warranty which includes normal wear items like chargers and the
batteries. You must retain your receipt to prove that the tool was built
during the qualifying time period. So if you want one get be for the end of
the year.

That said, IMHO with the exception of the 12 volt 3/8" standard duty
cordless drill, all the other drills are HEAVY and IMHO the standard one
seems cheesy. But, given the 90 day bring back policy, it may be worth a
try.

"Lee K" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> > Imagine my dismay...after being an Authorized Warranty service center
for
> > Ryobi (among others) since the days when Ryobi made some very good value
> > middle of the road tools & a good chunk of Craftsman for Sears &
Benchmark
> > for Home Hardware, they lowered their quality as Techtronic & pump out
the
> > poor quality imported tools under the Ryobi name through Home Depot, now
I
> > find that Ridgid (also under Techtronic but billed as more heavier duty
> tools
> > than Ryobi) now falls under Barrett Marketing in Canada who I do the
Ryobi
> > Warranty service for & buy the Ryobi parts through. Which means that we
> will
> > soon be sent the Ridgid customers who have problems with their tools
> > too....not to mention the same deal with McCulloch who also makes most
of
> > the Canadian Tires Mastercraft tools. It seems we may end up servicing
> more
> > & more crap.
> >
> > My point being that I hate giving a repaired tool back to a customer
that
> > was not well made in the first place....regardless of warranties blah
blah
> > blah...garbage in garbage out.
> >
> I have the Ridgid 13" planer, and am very happy. So happy, in fact, that
I
> just recently bought the Ridgid 3650 table saw, which is very well made,
> IMO.

Let me just say...we'll see.

Emerson, Skil, Craftsman, Ridgid meet OWT, TTI, Ryobi, Craftsman, Ridgid at
Home Depot.....a win win situation for all involved....what's the catch??

Probably Home Depot.....technical & after sales service....not at out
closest HDs anyhow. I asked six very pertinent questions about some of the
tools, re: warranty, accessories, usage, parts etc etc at two different
locations.....got a handful of Dunno's, not sure's, I'll find someone to
help (but couldn't) it was almost like visiting Wal-Mart.

PS...we don't service vacuums, thanks for asking.

LOL
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