Greetings and Happy Holidays to All,
I would like to start making a crosscut sled for my Unisaw and would
like opinions from those who have made their own. Yes, I did Google and
found 1090 entries. After looking through a lot of them (a group of
Google hits = a gaggle?) I have some good ideas. I'm still debating on
the runner material. Since I'm a diemaker, I have access to a machine
shop and a lot of metal. I guess I could make the runners from steel or
aluminum, since where I live we do have humidity swings. That would
also let me put discs into the ends so it won't lift, something I didn't
think of before I gaggled. As for size, I plan on a medium size due to
the work I plan on using it for. If it works out, I can always make
another size later. Anyone make one with a feature they are really
proud of and would like to share with the rest of the class??? BTW, I
already watched part of the video at Taunton.com. It would be great if
someone knows of a link to an online plan to download. Thanks as
always, Mark
Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 5:16pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Mark) says:
I would like to start making a crosscut sled <snip> link to an online
plan to download.
Great learning experience. I highly recommend everyone make a saw
sled, just for the learning, if nothing else. Check the archives for
plans, or do a google search.
JOAT
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
as well dance.
- Unknown
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:16:29 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would like to start making a crosscut sled
Well just get out there and do it then. A simple one shouldn't take
more than an afternoon, then you can get using it and see wht's really
important to you. You can always make another one later.
>also let me put discs into the ends so it won't lift, something I didn't
>think of before I gaggled.
Sounds dreadful ! I have a big top on my saw (and I paid good money
to make it like that) so having to slide it out of the front of the
slot rather than lifting it up would really annoy me. I also have
blind-ended blade-containing boxes on my crosscut sled, so you can't
simply slide it over a blade.
--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
In rec.woodworking
Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>Greetings and Happy Holidays to All,
> I would like to start making a crosscut sled for my Unisaw and would
>like opinions from those who have made their own. Yes, I did Google and
>found 1090 entries. After looking through a lot of them (a group of
>Google hits = a gaggle?) I have some good ideas. I'm still debating on
>the runner material. Since I'm a diemaker, I have access to a machine
>shop and a lot of metal. I guess I could make the runners from steel or
>aluminum, since where I live we do have humidity swings. That would
>also let me put discs into the ends so it won't lift, something I didn't
>think of before I gaggled. As for size, I plan on a medium size due to
>the work I plan on using it for. If it works out, I can always make
>another size later. Anyone make one with a feature they are really
>proud of and would like to share with the rest of the class??? BTW, I
>already watched part of the video at Taunton.com. It would be great if
>someone knows of a link to an online plan to download. Thanks as
>always, Mark
I used delrin for runners and I'm very happy with it. Here's a pic though
you can't see the runners. You can see the end of a T-slot for my
adjustable stop block.
http://home.swbell.net/snaphook/Pics/cc_sled.jpg
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:16:29 GMT, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
I am not an expert in crosscut sleds but, I have made three. The first
and second using 3/4" maple/birch plywood and hard maple fences. The
first one lasted not more than a few days and the second lasted about
two months, it warps/twisted and finally falls apart after I dropped
it.
I made the third one yesterday from the Dec. 2003 issue of Popular
Woodworking's Jigs & Shop Tips. (Still available in bookstores or
newsstands). What make this one outstanding is, it is adjustable and
can handle panels up to 24" wide and 36" long. I will make another
smaller one from the materials left over. This time the fence will be
in the back rather than in the front and will replace the UHMW miter
bar or slide beneath with Lee Valley's miter slide.
>Greetings and Happy Holidays to All,
> I would like to start making a crosscut sled for my Unisaw and would
>like opinions from those who have made their own. Yes, I did Google and
>found 1090 entries. After looking through a lot of them (a group of
>Google hits = a gaggle?) I have some good ideas. I'm still debating on
>the runner material. Since I'm a diemaker, I have access to a machine
>shop and a lot of metal. I guess I could make the runners from steel or
>aluminum, since where I live we do have humidity swings. That would
>also let me put discs into the ends so it won't lift, something I didn't
>think of before I gaggled. As for size, I plan on a medium size due to
>the work I plan on using it for. If it works out, I can always make
>another size later. Anyone make one with a feature they are really
>proud of and would like to share with the rest of the class??? BTW, I
>already watched part of the video at Taunton.com. It would be great if
>someone knows of a link to an online plan to download. Thanks as
>always, Mark
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Nova wrote:
>What, are you only counting the bandsaw miter gauges?
Let's see.
The Atlas No. 912 (12" 50's vintage) came with a gage.
Neither of the 30's vintage 10" Deltas have a miter slot so
no gage.
The 16" Wallace didn't have a slot so ditto for it.
The 14" Delta ('48 vintage) didn't come with a gage but has
a slot.
There are the two 30's vintage 12" Deltas which aren't
slotted so no gage.
The Powermatic No. 141 (made in McMinnville and not by
Chinese orphans and political prisoners) has a slot but no
gage.
Nope, most of my gages came with table saws and sanders. I
did receive one from OWWMer Dave Potts. It is a second
generation Delta (very late 30's/very early 40's). I'm
still on the lookout for a first generation for El Guapo
just to have it finished out correctly.
UA100
Roy Smith wrote:
> I once saw an interesting variation on a sled. Take two miter gauges
> (one in each slot) and screw a piece of wood cross the two of them.
Depends on why you're building the sled. If it's to try to force a bad saw
to do something moderately useful, the two gauge trick probably won't work.
That's what I tried first, except the second miter gauge was just a rail
attached to the fence. Similar principle. It was still way too sloppy.
The sled I built rides in both slots, and also along the outside edges of
the table. That gets me 90ish degrees, and that's as high as the bar goes
on this boat anchor.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
So tell the man how long you've been into woodworking and when did you
get around to making a sled, for that "learning experience". :)
dave
T. wrote:
> Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 5:16pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Mark) says:
> I would like to start making a crosscut sled <snip> link to an online
> plan to download.
>
> Great learning experience. I highly recommend everyone make a saw
> sled, just for the learning, if nothing else. Check the archives for
> plans, or do a google search.
>
> JOAT
> Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
> as well dance.
> - Unknown
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
We ARE getting along, Mark! Don't assume that just because we give each
other a "BAD" time that there's as much ill will as you might infer. At
least not on my part. Perhaps JOAT has a different feeling about the
matter, but I look forward to our bantering. I razz him because I know
he takes it all in stride, unlike some of the folks who, for example
thought I was a bigot for making trailer-trash comments. I like blonde
jokes as well, but I haven't had an opportunity to use those yet.
Smile..things could get worse...and sure enough, they did!
dave
dave
Mark wrote:
> I seriously suspect BAD and JOAT are an old married couple. If not,
> they should be, cuz they sure act like it. But I enjoy watching
> (reading) their bantering back and forth, and also reading what both of
> them have to offer the wreck. Can't we all just get along??? ;-)
>
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>> LOL! I think you misinterpreted my suggestion about telling him how
>> long you've been woodworking!!! I already KNEW you've been at it for
>> a while. Do you have that "sailing over your head" feeling? The
>> POINT of my suggestion was that even though you've been at it a long
>> time, you JUST NOW got around to making one of the most useful items
>> around any WW shop! You gave all this long winded info about how long
>> you've been woodworking, like you needed to prove yourself. That was
>> never the issue. I'm the one who is relatively new at this and have
>> little experience so far. You need to work on your "inference"
>> skills! :)
>>
>> You just crack me up!!
>>
>> dave
>>
>> T. wrote:
>>
>>> Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 11:10pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
>>> burbles:
>>> So tell the man how long you've been into woodworking and when did you
>>> get around to making a sled, for that "learning experience".
>>>
>>> Well, Homer, I don't think he asked, so it must be you wants to
>>> know. Obviously I don't have your experience or expertise. I've only
>>> been woodworking since my 4th grade shop class. That would have been
>>> 1948. They didn't have kindergarten, so started in the 1st grade at 5,
>>> so that would have put me in the 4th grade at age 8. And, yeah, my
>>> school started shop in the 4th grade. Didn't get to use power tools
>>> until the 7th grade, but no cabinet saw use until the 10th. You do the
>>> math. I also helped my step-grandfather a lot. He was what
>>> people would
>>> call a master carpenter nowadays. Back then he was called a carpenter,
>>> albeit an extremely talented one. Oops, used a big word there, albeit
>>> means even though. He also made furniture at home. He never used a
>>> brad nailer, don't know if they even had them then. So, he used a
>>> hammer to put in brads. Then a nail set, fill the hole, and you could
>>> never tell it was ever there. He had a cabinet saw. That and an old
>>> drill press were the only power tools I can recall him owning or using.
>>> If you've got a kid that'll listen, no need for an outfeed table, and
>>> ripping plywood sheets longways, or 10 foot boards, no prob. They just
>>> have to be sure to walk backwards in a straight line, not to pull the
>>> wood, just support it, keep the end slightly separated so no pinch, and
>>> no prob.
>>>
>>> And, yeah, I just recently made my first saw sled. After all, it's
>>> not like it's some big secret. So what? And, unlike some people, I
>>> continue to learn. I'm still learning from my saw sled experience,
>>> along with learning from myriad other experiences. I learn every day.
>>> You ought to try it sometime. Oops, I forgot, you already know it all.
>>>
>>> I have been around all day, my birthday is in my bio on my webpage.
>>> Anything that's not included in that, you're free to ask about. And, I
>>> am free to, quite possibly, tell you that anything not posted there is
>>> none of your @#$%in' business.
>>>
>>> http://www.flyinghellfish.com/sounds/evilhomr.wav
>>>
>>> JOAT
>>> Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
>>> as well dance.
>>> - Unknown
>>> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web
>>> Page Update 14 Dec 2003. Some tunes I like.
>>> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>>>
>>
>
Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 11:10pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
burbles:
So tell the man how long you've been into woodworking and when did you
get around to making a sled, for that "learning experience".
Well, Homer, I don't think he asked, so it must be you wants to
know. Obviously I don't have your experience or expertise. I've only
been woodworking since my 4th grade shop class. That would have been
1948. They didn't have kindergarten, so started in the 1st grade at 5,
so that would have put me in the 4th grade at age 8. And, yeah, my
school started shop in the 4th grade. Didn't get to use power tools
until the 7th grade, but no cabinet saw use until the 10th. You do the
math.
I also helped my step-grandfather a lot. He was what people would
call a master carpenter nowadays. Back then he was called a carpenter,
albeit an extremely talented one. Oops, used a big word there, albeit
means even though. He also made furniture at home. He never used a
brad nailer, don't know if they even had them then. So, he used a
hammer to put in brads. Then a nail set, fill the hole, and you could
never tell it was ever there. He had a cabinet saw. That and an old
drill press were the only power tools I can recall him owning or using.
If you've got a kid that'll listen, no need for an outfeed table, and
ripping plywood sheets longways, or 10 foot boards, no prob. They just
have to be sure to walk backwards in a straight line, not to pull the
wood, just support it, keep the end slightly separated so no pinch, and
no prob.
And, yeah, I just recently made my first saw sled. After all, it's
not like it's some big secret. So what? And, unlike some people, I
continue to learn. I'm still learning from my saw sled experience,
along with learning from myriad other experiences. I learn every day.
You ought to try it sometime. Oops, I forgot, you already know it all.
I have been around all day, my birthday is in my bio on my webpage.
Anything that's not included in that, you're free to ask about. And, I
am free to, quite possibly, tell you that anything not posted there is
none of your @#$%in' business.
http://www.flyinghellfish.com/sounds/evilhomr.wav
JOAT
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
as well dance.
- Unknown
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
That's one reason why I like to follow your differences of opinions, I
realize it's not meant to be taken to heart. Sometimes both of you guys
make my day since I check the wreck daily. Cheers, Mark
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> We ARE getting along, Mark! Don't assume that just because we give each
> other a "BAD" time that there's as much ill will as you might infer. At
> least not on my part. Perhaps JOAT has a different feeling about the
> matter, but I look forward to our bantering. I razz him because I know
> he takes it all in stride, unlike some of the folks who, for example
> thought I was a bigot for making trailer-trash comments. I like blonde
> jokes as well, but I haven't had an opportunity to use those yet.
>
> Smile..things could get worse...and sure enough, they did!
>
> dave
>
>
> dave
>
> Mark wrote:
>
>> I seriously suspect BAD and JOAT are an old married couple. If not,
>> they should be, cuz they sure act like it. But I enjoy watching
>> (reading) their bantering back and forth, and also reading what both
>> of them have to offer the wreck. Can't we all just get along??? ;-)
>>
>> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>
>>> LOL! I think you misinterpreted my suggestion about telling him how
>>> long you've been woodworking!!! I already KNEW you've been at it for
>>> a while. Do you have that "sailing over your head" feeling? The
>>> POINT of my suggestion was that even though you've been at it a long
>>> time, you JUST NOW got around to making one of the most useful items
>>> around any WW shop! You gave all this long winded info about how
>>> long you've been woodworking, like you needed to prove yourself.
>>> That was never the issue. I'm the one who is relatively new at this
>>> and have little experience so far. You need to work on your
>>> "inference" skills! :)
>>>
>>> You just crack me up!!
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>> T. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 11:10pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
>>>> burbles:
>>>> So tell the man how long you've been into woodworking and when did you
>>>> get around to making a sled, for that "learning experience".
>>>>
>>>> Well, Homer, I don't think he asked, so it must be you wants to
>>>> know. Obviously I don't have your experience or expertise. I've only
>>>> been woodworking since my 4th grade shop class. That would have been
>>>> 1948. They didn't have kindergarten, so started in the 1st grade at 5,
>>>> so that would have put me in the 4th grade at age 8. And, yeah, my
>>>> school started shop in the 4th grade. Didn't get to use power tools
>>>> until the 7th grade, but no cabinet saw use until the 10th. You do the
>>>> math. I also helped my step-grandfather a lot. He was what
>>>> people would
>>>> call a master carpenter nowadays. Back then he was called a carpenter,
>>>> albeit an extremely talented one. Oops, used a big word there, albeit
>>>> means even though. He also made furniture at home. He never used a
>>>> brad nailer, don't know if they even had them then. So, he used a
>>>> hammer to put in brads. Then a nail set, fill the hole, and you could
>>>> never tell it was ever there. He had a cabinet saw. That and an old
>>>> drill press were the only power tools I can recall him owning or using.
>>>> If you've got a kid that'll listen, no need for an outfeed table, and
>>>> ripping plywood sheets longways, or 10 foot boards, no prob. They just
>>>> have to be sure to walk backwards in a straight line, not to pull the
>>>> wood, just support it, keep the end slightly separated so no pinch, and
>>>> no prob.
>>>>
>>>> And, yeah, I just recently made my first saw sled. After all,
>>>> it's
>>>> not like it's some big secret. So what? And, unlike some people, I
>>>> continue to learn. I'm still learning from my saw sled experience,
>>>> along with learning from myriad other experiences. I learn every day.
>>>> You ought to try it sometime. Oops, I forgot, you already know it all.
>>>>
>>>> I have been around all day, my birthday is in my bio on my
>>>> webpage.
>>>> Anything that's not included in that, you're free to ask about. And, I
>>>> am free to, quite possibly, tell you that anything not posted there is
>>>> none of your @#$%in' business.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flyinghellfish.com/sounds/evilhomr.wav
>>>>
>>>> JOAT
>>>> Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
>>>> as well dance.
>>>> - Unknown
>>>> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web
>>>> Page Update 14 Dec 2003. Some tunes I like.
>>>> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Don't assume that just because we give each other a "BAD" time that there's as much ill will as you might infer.
> dave
>
dave,
What a sad and delusional person you are. People are f'ing with you
because they think you're an a$$hole. What, did you think that the
people here consider you to be thier intellectual foil. Do you think
they arrive benefit from your witless repartee.
foil (foil) n.
One that by contrast underscores or enhances the distinctive
characteristics of another: "I am resolved my husband shall not be a
rival, but a foil to me" (Charlotte Brontë).
Just so you don't think I'm talking about aluminum.
LOL! I think you misinterpreted my suggestion about telling him how
long you've been woodworking!!! I already KNEW you've been at it for a
while. Do you have that "sailing over your head" feeling? The POINT of
my suggestion was that even though you've been at it a long time, you
JUST NOW got around to making one of the most useful items around any WW
shop! You gave all this long winded info about how long you've been
woodworking, like you needed to prove yourself. That was never the
issue. I'm the one who is relatively new at this and have little
experience so far. You need to work on your "inference" skills! :)
You just crack me up!!
dave
T. wrote:
> Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 11:10pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> burbles:
> So tell the man how long you've been into woodworking and when did you
> get around to making a sled, for that "learning experience".
>
> Well, Homer, I don't think he asked, so it must be you wants to
> know. Obviously I don't have your experience or expertise. I've only
> been woodworking since my 4th grade shop class. That would have been
> 1948. They didn't have kindergarten, so started in the 1st grade at 5,
> so that would have put me in the 4th grade at age 8. And, yeah, my
> school started shop in the 4th grade. Didn't get to use power tools
> until the 7th grade, but no cabinet saw use until the 10th. You do the
> math.
>
> I also helped my step-grandfather a lot. He was what people would
> call a master carpenter nowadays. Back then he was called a carpenter,
> albeit an extremely talented one. Oops, used a big word there, albeit
> means even though. He also made furniture at home. He never used a
> brad nailer, don't know if they even had them then. So, he used a
> hammer to put in brads. Then a nail set, fill the hole, and you could
> never tell it was ever there. He had a cabinet saw. That and an old
> drill press were the only power tools I can recall him owning or using.
> If you've got a kid that'll listen, no need for an outfeed table, and
> ripping plywood sheets longways, or 10 foot boards, no prob. They just
> have to be sure to walk backwards in a straight line, not to pull the
> wood, just support it, keep the end slightly separated so no pinch, and
> no prob.
>
> And, yeah, I just recently made my first saw sled. After all, it's
> not like it's some big secret. So what? And, unlike some people, I
> continue to learn. I'm still learning from my saw sled experience,
> along with learning from myriad other experiences. I learn every day.
> You ought to try it sometime. Oops, I forgot, you already know it all.
>
> I have been around all day, my birthday is in my bio on my webpage.
> Anything that's not included in that, you're free to ask about. And, I
> am free to, quite possibly, tell you that anything not posted there is
> none of your @#$%in' business.
>
> http://www.flyinghellfish.com/sounds/evilhomr.wav
>
> JOAT
> Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
> as well dance.
> - Unknown
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Mon, Dec 15, 2003, 5:36pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
burbles:
LOL! I think you misinterpreted <snip>
Homer, I didn't misinterpret Jack. You're the one that asked, not
him; unless he's hired you as h is agent, which I sorta doubt. So I
replied to you. If he wants to know, he can drop you as his agent, and
ask me direct. That way he'll get the hot skinny.
You need to work on your "inference" skills! :)
I never go by what someone "infers" or "implies". I've heard too
many people say, "I know that's what I said, but that's what I meant".
I don't read minds.
You just crack me up!!
Yes, I figured you were having problems of some sort.
I'll give you a freebie. Reason I never made a saw sled before, I
never needed one. I'm pretty sure I said my work needs were changing,
and a saw sled would meet those needs (or, words to that effect). They
have, and, it did.. I just made a finishing stand too. Which I never
needed before either; but, do now. I'll prolly make more things I never
made before, too; but don't worry, I'll let you know. Yeah, right, and
they're working on crossing a pig and a seagull, so they can have flying
pigs, too. Hold your breath.
JOAT
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
as well dance.
- Unknown
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Hey! Are you able to post pictures? IIRC, you can't get to ABPW...
dave
T. wrote:
> Mon, Dec 15, 2003, 5:36pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> burbles:
> LOL! I think you misinterpreted <snip>
>
> Homer, I didn't misinterpret Jack. You're the one that asked, not
> him; unless he's hired you as h is agent, which I sorta doubt. So I
> replied to you. If he wants to know, he can drop you as his agent, and
> ask me direct. That way he'll get the hot skinny.
>
> You need to work on your "inference" skills! :)
>
> I never go by what someone "infers" or "implies". I've heard too
> many people say, "I know that's what I said, but that's what I meant".
> I don't read minds.
>
> You just crack me up!!
>
> Yes, I figured you were having problems of some sort.
>
> I'll give you a freebie. Reason I never made a saw sled before, I
> never needed one. I'm pretty sure I said my work needs were changing,
> and a saw sled would meet those needs (or, words to that effect). They
> have, and, it did.. I just made a finishing stand too. Which I never
> needed before either; but, do now. I'll prolly make more things I never
> made before, too; but don't worry, I'll let you know. Yeah, right, and
> they're working on crossing a pig and a seagull, so they can have flying
> pigs, too. Hold your breath.
>
> JOAT
> Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
> as well dance.
> - Unknown
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 1:04am (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
burbled:
Hey! Are you able to post pictures? IIRC, you can't get to ABPW...
Hey, yourself, Homer. Yes, I am able to post pictures. You don't
recall the pictures of my sled? Of, course, I didn't post them on a
post, but could have. If I had desired. And, no, you don't recall
correctly, as I can get to ABPW, as well as ABPF. But, I'm not meeting
you in either.
JOAT
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
as well dance.
- Unknown
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Nope, I don't recall your sled. When you get to be my age, you'll
forget a detail or two, yourself.
I wasn't expecting a date...
dave
T. wrote:
> Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 1:04am (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> burbled:
> Hey! Are you able to post pictures? IIRC, you can't get to ABPW...
>
> Hey, yourself, Homer. Yes, I am able to post pictures. You don't
> recall the pictures of my sled? Of, course, I didn't post them on a
> post, but could have. If I had desired. And, no, you don't recall
> correctly, as I can get to ABPW, as well as ABPF. But, I'm not meeting
> you in either.
>
> JOAT
> Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
> as well dance.
> - Unknown
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 2:32am (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
burbled:
Nope, I don't recall your sled. When you get to be my age, you'll forget
a detail or two, yourself. <snip>
Being as how it's now the 16th, I'm 63. And, still not forgetting
details.
JOAT
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
as well dance.
- Unknown
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 15 Dec 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
you got me by a few years, then. How did you make it to your 6th decade
without a proper sled?
dave
T. wrote:
> Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 2:32am (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> burbled:
> Nope, I don't recall your sled. When you get to be my age, you'll forget
> a detail or two, yourself. <snip>
>
> Being as how it's now the 16th, I'm 63. And, still not forgetting
> details.
>
> JOAT
> Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
> as well dance.
> - Unknown
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 15 Dec 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Tue, Dec 16, 2003, 3:59pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
burbled:
you got me by a few years, then. How did you make it to your 6th decade
without a proper sled?
I answered that before, Homer, but I'll put it in different words
this time.
Not enough snow.
JOAT
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
as well dance.
- Unknown
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 16 Dec 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
I seriously suspect BAD and JOAT are an old married couple. If not,
they should be, cuz they sure act like it. But I enjoy watching
(reading) their bantering back and forth, and also reading what both of
them have to offer the wreck. Can't we all just get along??? ;-)
Bay Area Dave wrote:
> LOL! I think you misinterpreted my suggestion about telling him how
> long you've been woodworking!!! I already KNEW you've been at it for a
> while. Do you have that "sailing over your head" feeling? The POINT of
> my suggestion was that even though you've been at it a long time, you
> JUST NOW got around to making one of the most useful items around any WW
> shop! You gave all this long winded info about how long you've been
> woodworking, like you needed to prove yourself. That was never the
> issue. I'm the one who is relatively new at this and have little
> experience so far. You need to work on your "inference" skills! :)
>
> You just crack me up!!
>
> dave
>
> T. wrote:
>
>> Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 11:10pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
>> burbles:
>> So tell the man how long you've been into woodworking and when did you
>> get around to making a sled, for that "learning experience".
>>
>> Well, Homer, I don't think he asked, so it must be you wants to
>> know. Obviously I don't have your experience or expertise. I've only
>> been woodworking since my 4th grade shop class. That would have been
>> 1948. They didn't have kindergarten, so started in the 1st grade at 5,
>> so that would have put me in the 4th grade at age 8. And, yeah, my
>> school started shop in the 4th grade. Didn't get to use power tools
>> until the 7th grade, but no cabinet saw use until the 10th. You do the
>> math.
>> I also helped my step-grandfather a lot. He was what people would
>> call a master carpenter nowadays. Back then he was called a carpenter,
>> albeit an extremely talented one. Oops, used a big word there, albeit
>> means even though. He also made furniture at home. He never used a
>> brad nailer, don't know if they even had them then. So, he used a
>> hammer to put in brads. Then a nail set, fill the hole, and you could
>> never tell it was ever there. He had a cabinet saw. That and an old
>> drill press were the only power tools I can recall him owning or using.
>> If you've got a kid that'll listen, no need for an outfeed table, and
>> ripping plywood sheets longways, or 10 foot boards, no prob. They just
>> have to be sure to walk backwards in a straight line, not to pull the
>> wood, just support it, keep the end slightly separated so no pinch, and
>> no prob.
>>
>> And, yeah, I just recently made my first saw sled. After all, it's
>> not like it's some big secret. So what? And, unlike some people, I
>> continue to learn. I'm still learning from my saw sled experience,
>> along with learning from myriad other experiences. I learn every day.
>> You ought to try it sometime. Oops, I forgot, you already know it all.
>>
>> I have been around all day, my birthday is in my bio on my webpage.
>> Anything that's not included in that, you're free to ask about. And, I
>> am free to, quite possibly, tell you that anything not posted there is
>> none of your @#$%in' business.
>>
>> http://www.flyinghellfish.com/sounds/evilhomr.wav
>>
>> JOAT
>> Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
>> as well dance.
>> - Unknown
>> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web
>> Page Update 14 Dec 2003. Some tunes I like.
>> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>>
>
Mon, Dec 15, 2003, 10:12pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Mark) burbled:
<> seriously <snip> bantering <snip>
Look up banter in the dictionary sometime. If you already know
what it means, then you're seriously misinterpreting it.
The Cabel is going to keep an eye on you.
JOAT
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
as well dance.
- Unknown
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
I didn't see his post, but pass this on for me, "Bite me!".
Thanks
dave
T. wrote:
> Mon, Dec 15, 2003, 10:12pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Mark) burbled:
> <> seriously <snip> bantering <snip>
>
> Look up banter in the dictionary sometime. If you already know
> what it means, then you're seriously misinterpreting it.
>
> The Cabel is going to keep an eye on you.
>
> JOAT
> Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might
> as well dance.
> - Unknown
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 14 Dec 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
I took a little tour of your shop, am damn jealous. Very nice setup
you have there. Quality tools are the only way to go. Thanks, Mark
Swingman wrote:
> I use both commercial metal "miter sliders" and hardwood runners on my many
> TS sleds. For quickie or specific purpose sleds I may not use often (perhaps
> to cut a large sheet at an angle) , I always use hardwood runners, but for
> precision applications and sleds I plan on keeping for a while and will see
> much use, I personally prefer the adjustable, metal "miter sliders".
>
> With these, I can adjust out any slop caused by weather changes. They allow
> me a little extra precision that I do not have with the wooden runner sleds.
> They also come with some pretty handy tips for making the sled square to the
> blade ... but you pay the price.
>
> Like me, you may find yourself using both, but don't discount the adjustable
> metal runners until you try them. If you wish, you can see pictures for the
> two sleds I use the most on my website, jigs and fixtures page.
>
No special features on mine, but my sliders are made of UHMW (ultra high
molecular weight polyethylene).
It is very rigid and stays pretty slick so it slides well in the tracks.
This is where I found it
http://ttrackusa.com/mitertrack.html
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings and Happy Holidays to All,
> I would like to start making a crosscut sled for my Unisaw and would
> like opinions from those who have made their own. Yes, I did Google and
> found 1090 entries. After looking through a lot of them (a group of
> Google hits = a gaggle?) I have some good ideas. I'm still debating on
> the runner material. Since I'm a diemaker, I have access to a machine
> shop and a lot of metal. I guess I could make the runners from steel or
> aluminum, since where I live we do have humidity swings. That would
> also let me put discs into the ends so it won't lift, something I didn't
> think of before I gaggled. As for size, I plan on a medium size due to
> the work I plan on using it for. If it works out, I can always make
> another size later. Anyone make one with a feature they are really
> proud of and would like to share with the rest of the class??? BTW, I
> already watched part of the video at Taunton.com. It would be great if
> someone knows of a link to an online plan to download. Thanks as
> always, Mark
>
>
Mine is a single side sled, well actually more of a panel cutter. I made
mine with an adjustable fence for cutting angles. I've never moved it from
90 degrees, hahahaha. Simple to route a curved grove in an arc for the fence
angel adjustment.
Mine is 3/4" ply, if I did it again, I'd use 1/2". I've seen guys use 1/4"
but it's too light for me.
I envy your ability to make dead on metal runners. I have the Incra
adjustable ones and they just aren't the same as a good zero/zero fit.
One last suggestion, I'd look at adding some measuring ability with stop
blocks. Take a look at http://www.woodpeck.com/shopstopfence.html
If you decide to consider this method, call them as ask if they can get you
the flip stop style fence. The ability to flip the stop out of the way would
be very handy. At the very least, make sure you fence is tall and square
enough to clamp a stop block for repetative cuts. Mine is used mainly for
cutting plywood panels, so my fence is low and nicely rounded to make the
top edges more ergonomic. I didn't consider that I'd want to clamp things to
it, so now it's difficult to clamp a stop block to it's nicely rounded
edges. Live and learn, hahaha.
Bernie
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings and Happy Holidays to All,
> I would like to start making a crosscut sled for my Unisaw and would
> like opinions from those who have made their own. Yes, I did Google and
> found 1090 entries. After looking through a lot of them (a group of
> Google hits = a gaggle?) I have some good ideas. I'm still debating on
> the runner material. Since I'm a diemaker, I have access to a machine
> shop and a lot of metal. I guess I could make the runners from steel or
> aluminum, since where I live we do have humidity swings. That would
> also let me put discs into the ends so it won't lift, something I didn't
> think of before I gaggled. As for size, I plan on a medium size due to
> the work I plan on using it for. If it works out, I can always make
> another size later. Anyone make one with a feature they are really
> proud of and would like to share with the rest of the class??? BTW, I
> already watched part of the video at Taunton.com. It would be great if
> someone knows of a link to an online plan to download. Thanks as
> always, Mark
>
I have been to your site also always nice to see a serious woodworkers shop.
What do you do to support your addiction, eraghm I mean habit, oh sorry, I
meant your hobby <G>
I would like to mention that you could avoid using the mitre slot rig with a
slot cutter for your router I use it all the time differant thickness's and
also one that is 5/32 for biscuits.
Thought I would mention it on case you overlooked it as an option.
George
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thank you, Mark. I'm thankful for what I have, and would never consider
> mentioning a bigger shop to SWMBO. ;>)
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 9/21/03
>
> "Mark" wrote in message
> > I took a little tour of your shop, am damn jealous. Very nice setup
> > you have there. Quality tools are the only way to go. Thanks, Mark
>
>
Mark wrote:
> another size later. Anyone make one with a feature they are really
> proud of and would like to share with the rest of the class??? BTW, I
Bolt-on miter and finger accessories. I'll probably have more before it's
over. I'm working up a whole modular system of sled-riding gadgets.
Of course I *need* to more than you. My saw is a piece of crap, and I can't
get any accuracy out of it unless I ride both slots and both outside edges
of the table, hold my mouth right, and curl my left big toe.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
I use both commercial metal "miter sliders" and hardwood runners on my many
TS sleds. For quickie or specific purpose sleds I may not use often (perhaps
to cut a large sheet at an angle) , I always use hardwood runners, but for
precision applications and sleds I plan on keeping for a while and will see
much use, I personally prefer the adjustable, metal "miter sliders".
With these, I can adjust out any slop caused by weather changes. They allow
me a little extra precision that I do not have with the wooden runner sleds.
They also come with some pretty handy tips for making the sled square to the
blade ... but you pay the price.
Like me, you may find yourself using both, but don't discount the adjustable
metal runners until you try them. If you wish, you can see pictures for the
two sleds I use the most on my website, jigs and fixtures page.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"Mark" wrote in message
> Greetings and Happy Holidays to All,
> I would like to start making a crosscut sled for my Unisaw and would
> like opinions from those who have made their own. Yes, I did Google and
> found 1090 entries. After looking through a lot of them (a group of
> Google hits = a gaggle?) I have some good ideas. I'm still debating on
> the runner material. Since I'm a diemaker, I have access to a machine
> shop and a lot of metal. I guess I could make the runners from steel or
> aluminum, since where I live we do have humidity swings. That would
> also let me put discs into the ends so it won't lift, something I didn't
> think of before I gaggled. As for size, I plan on a medium size due to
> the work I plan on using it for. If it works out, I can always make
> another size later. Anyone make one with a feature they are really
> proud of and would like to share with the rest of the class??? BTW, I
> already watched part of the video at Taunton.com. It would be great if
> someone knows of a link to an online plan to download. Thanks as
> always, Mark
>
I once saw an interesting variation on a sled. Take two miter gauges
(one in each slot) and screw a piece of wood cross the two of them.
Perhaps not as nice a real sled, but you can make one in under 5 minutes
and it's a lot better than just a regular miter gauge.
Of course, that assumes you've got two miter gauges laying around.
Thank you, Mark. I'm thankful for what I have, and would never consider
mentioning a bigger shop to SWMBO. ;>)
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"Mark" wrote in message
> I took a little tour of your shop, am damn jealous. Very nice setup
> you have there. Quality tools are the only way to go. Thanks, Mark
"George M. Kazaka" wrote in message
> I have been to your site also always nice to see a serious woodworkers
shop.
> What do you do to support your addiction, eraghm I mean habit, oh sorry,
I
> meant your hobby <G>
I own, or am a partner in, three different businesses, still play/tour music
professionally, and make a bit of furniture ... mostly for myself, but also
for a select, but growing client list. Life is, more or less, beautiful ...
so far.
> I would like to mention that you could avoid using the mitre slot rig with
a
> slot cutter for your router I use it all the time differant thickness's
and
> also one that is 5/32 for biscuits.
> Thought I would mention it on case you overlooked it as an option.
Thanks ... I do use a slot cutter on the router table for long splines, and
a plate jointer for reinforcing miter joints with biscuits ... although I
have used the slot cutter with a stop to do that also.
I use the jig you saw for visibile splines with contrasting wood on miter
joints ... it's a lot faster setup on the TS.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
Yeah, I brought my gage blocks home from work today so I can get the
sizes of both miter slots. I'm pretty sure they won't both be the exact
same width. I'm going to go with a couple of cold rolled steel runners,
I can get to within a half thou of the size I'll need. I'm also working
on a jig similar to the ones used to check squareness and parallelism on
table saws. Mark
Bernie Hunt wrote:
> Mine is a single side sled, well actually more of a panel cutter. I made
> mine with an adjustable fence for cutting angles. I've never moved it from
> 90 degrees, hahahaha. Simple to route a curved grove in an arc for the fence
> angel adjustment.
>
> Mine is 3/4" ply, if I did it again, I'd use 1/2". I've seen guys use 1/4"
> but it's too light for me.
>
> I envy your ability to make dead on metal runners. I have the Incra
> adjustable ones and they just aren't the same as a good zero/zero fit.
>
> One last suggestion, I'd look at adding some measuring ability with stop
> blocks. Take a look at http://www.woodpeck.com/shopstopfence.html
> If you decide to consider this method, call them as ask if they can get you
> the flip stop style fence. The ability to flip the stop out of the way would
> be very handy. At the very least, make sure you fence is tall and square
> enough to clamp a stop block for repetative cuts. Mine is used mainly for
> cutting plywood panels, so my fence is low and nicely rounded to make the
> top edges more ergonomic. I didn't consider that I'd want to clamp things to
> it, so now it's difficult to clamp a stop block to it's nicely rounded
> edges. Live and learn, hahaha.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> "Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Greetings and Happy Holidays to All,
>> I would like to start making a crosscut sled for my Unisaw and would
>>like opinions from those who have made their own. Yes, I did Google and
>>found 1090 entries. After looking through a lot of them (a group of
>>Google hits = a gaggle?) I have some good ideas. I'm still debating on
>>the runner material. Since I'm a diemaker, I have access to a machine
>>shop and a lot of metal. I guess I could make the runners from steel or
>>aluminum, since where I live we do have humidity swings. That would
>>also let me put discs into the ends so it won't lift, something I didn't
>>think of before I gaggled. As for size, I plan on a medium size due to
>>the work I plan on using it for. If it works out, I can always make
>>another size later. Anyone make one with a feature they are really
>>proud of and would like to share with the rest of the class??? BTW, I
>>already watched part of the video at Taunton.com. It would be great if
>>someone knows of a link to an online plan to download. Thanks as
>>always, Mark
>>
>
>
>
Keith, Keith -- these people just don't understand that kind of talk.
--
Ross
www.myoldtools.com
"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Roy Smith wrote:
> >Of course, that assumes you've got two miter gauges laying around.
>
>
> Umm, five, six, maybe seven. One came with each machine.
>
> UA100
Hmm... T-slot in the rear fence. I like it. Think I'll borrow the
idea. Thanks, Mark
Bruce wrote:
> In rec.woodworking
> Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Greetings and Happy Holidays to All,
>> I would like to start making a crosscut sled for my Unisaw and would
>>like opinions from those who have made their own. Yes, I did Google and
>>found 1090 entries. After looking through a lot of them (a group of
>>Google hits = a gaggle?) I have some good ideas. I'm still debating on
>>the runner material. Since I'm a diemaker, I have access to a machine
>>shop and a lot of metal. I guess I could make the runners from steel or
>>aluminum, since where I live we do have humidity swings. That would
>>also let me put discs into the ends so it won't lift, something I didn't
>>think of before I gaggled. As for size, I plan on a medium size due to
>>the work I plan on using it for. If it works out, I can always make
>>another size later. Anyone make one with a feature they are really
>>proud of and would like to share with the rest of the class??? BTW, I
>>already watched part of the video at Taunton.com. It would be great if
>>someone knows of a link to an online plan to download. Thanks as
>>always, Mark
>
>
> I used delrin for runners and I'm very happy with it. Here's a pic though
> you can't see the runners. You can see the end of a T-slot for my
> adjustable stop block.
>
> http://home.swbell.net/snaphook/Pics/cc_sled.jpg
>
>