JP

Jay Pique

10/02/2004 8:43 PM

Sanders

Had some real trouble sanding some cherry today. The 1/4 sheet PC
seemed to be leaving massive swirl marks, so I swtiched to the 1/2
sheet (PC505H) and I'll be damned if I didn't get the same thing.
What I ended up doing was letting the machine get fully up to speed
before putting it on the work surface, and taking it off before
releasing the trigger. I also don't put any pressure on it at all -
just the weight of the tool. Lastly, I became very careful about
where I set the sander when not in use, as maybe it was picking up
pieces of grit from the bench or something.

Is this pretty much SOP for you veterans out there? Any other ideas
as to what may have been causing the swirls?

Lastly, anyone use the Grizzly electric palm sander? $16 a piece
seems awfully *cheap* to me....

JP


This topic has 7 replies

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Jay Pique on 10/02/2004 8:43 PM

11/02/2004 1:48 AM


"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Had some real trouble sanding some cherry today. The 1/4 sheet PC
> seemed to be leaving massive swirl marks, so I swtiched to the 1/2
> sheet (PC505H) and I'll be damned if I didn't get the same thing.
> What I ended up doing was letting the machine get fully up to speed
> before putting it on the work surface, and taking it off before
> releasing the trigger. I also don't put any pressure on it at all -
> just the weight of the tool. Lastly, I became very careful about
> where I set the sander when not in use, as maybe it was picking up
> pieces of grit from the bench or something.
>
> Is this pretty much SOP for you veterans out there? Any other ideas
> as to what may have been causing the swirls?
>
Yeah, your are learning... ;~) Don't set the sander on the work unless it
is running and don't turn it off unless it is in the air.

> Lastly, anyone use the Grizzly electric palm sander? $16 a piece
> seems awfully *cheap* to me....

At first it seems cheap... Get a good one and it will be even cheaper in
the long run. Take a look at the PC SpeedBloc. About $80.



YF

"Young_carpenter"

in reply to Jay Pique on 10/02/2004 8:43 PM

10/02/2004 10:07 PM

I often sand in a "pattern" overlapping in various directions finishing with
the grain (back and forth) coming to the corner I sand right off the
project. BTW it works differently if you are using a ROS Disk sander

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"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Had some real trouble sanding some cherry today. The 1/4 sheet PC
> seemed to be leaving massive swirl marks, so I swtiched to the 1/2
> sheet (PC505H) and I'll be damned if I didn't get the same thing.
> What I ended up doing was letting the machine get fully up to speed
> before putting it on the work surface, and taking it off before
> releasing the trigger. I also don't put any pressure on it at all -
> just the weight of the tool. Lastly, I became very careful about
> where I set the sander when not in use, as maybe it was picking up
> pieces of grit from the bench or something.
>
> Is this pretty much SOP for you veterans out there? Any other ideas
> as to what may have been causing the swirls?
>
> Lastly, anyone use the Grizzly electric palm sander? $16 a piece
> seems awfully *cheap* to me....
>
> JP


JJ

JGS

in reply to Jay Pique on 10/02/2004 8:43 PM

11/02/2004 5:32 AM

Hi Jay,
The PSA paper works better on the Speedbloc than the H & L type. In an
earlier post Leon suggested that and he was bang on. Cheers, GJ

Jay Pique wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:48:43 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Had some real trouble sanding some cherry today. The 1/4 sheet PC
> >> seemed to be leaving massive swirl marks, so I swtiched to the 1/2
> >> sheet (PC505H) and I'll be damned if I didn't get the same thing.
> >> What I ended up doing was letting the machine get fully up to speed
> >> before putting it on the work surface, and taking it off before
> >> releasing the trigger. I also don't put any pressure on it at all -
> >> just the weight of the tool. Lastly, I became very careful about
> >> where I set the sander when not in use, as maybe it was picking up
> >> pieces of grit from the bench or something.
> >>
> >> Is this pretty much SOP for you veterans out there? Any other ideas
> >> as to what may have been causing the swirls?
> >>
> >Yeah, your are learning... ;~)
>
> ....the hard way. I'm the man with no fingerprints right now.
>
> > Don't set the sander on the work unless it
> >is running and don't turn it off unless it is in the air.
>
> >> Lastly, anyone use the Grizzly electric palm sander? $16 a piece
> >> seems awfully *cheap* to me....
> >
> >At first it seems cheap... Get a good one and it will be even cheaper in
> >the long run. Take a look at the PC SpeedBloc. About $80.
>
> Will do. Thanks.
>
> JP

Tt

"Toller"

in reply to Jay Pique on 10/02/2004 8:43 PM

11/02/2004 2:26 AM


"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Had some real trouble sanding some cherry today. The 1/4 sheet PC
> seemed to be leaving massive swirl marks, so I swtiched to the 1/2
> sheet (PC505H) and I'll be damned if I didn't get the same thing.
> What I ended up doing was letting the machine get fully up to speed
> before putting it on the work surface, and taking it off before
> releasing the trigger. I also don't put any pressure on it at all -
> just the weight of the tool. Lastly, I became very careful about
> where I set the sander when not in use, as maybe it was picking up
> pieces of grit from the bench or something.
>
"Understanding Wood Finishing" says you should have orbital sanders running
full speed before sanding; in contrast to ROS which should be started on the
wood. Anyone do it this way? I always turn my ROS on first.

Anyhow, my advice would be to get a ROS; they are better in every way.

> Lastly, anyone use the Grizzly electric palm sander? $16 a piece
> seems awfully *cheap* to me....
>
Haven't used it, but the $30 Ryobi ROS is crap; and I expect a $16 Grizzly
is worse.

AD

"Anthony Diodati"

in reply to Jay Pique on 10/02/2004 8:43 PM

10/02/2004 11:33 PM

Yea, I always turned on the ROS on first too, I must have missed that
in"Understanding Wood Finishing", But I never had a problem either.
Tony D.
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > >
> "Understanding Wood Finishing" says you should have orbital sanders
running
> full speed before sanding; in contrast to ROS which should be started on
the
> wood. Anyone do it this way? I always turn my ROS on first.
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to Jay Pique on 10/02/2004 8:43 PM

11/02/2004 3:22 AM

Jay Pique wrote:
> Had some real trouble sanding some cherry today. The 1/4 sheet PC
> seemed to be leaving massive swirl marks, so I swtiched to the 1/2
> sheet (PC505H) and I'll be damned if I didn't get the same thing.

I'm not sure why, but I've had the same thing happens when my sander got
old. I now have a PC and a DeWalt ROS and I'm very happy with both of them.
About $60. Faster and better.
--
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to Jay Pique on 10/02/2004 8:43 PM

10/02/2004 9:34 PM

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:48:43 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Had some real trouble sanding some cherry today. The 1/4 sheet PC
>> seemed to be leaving massive swirl marks, so I swtiched to the 1/2
>> sheet (PC505H) and I'll be damned if I didn't get the same thing.
>> What I ended up doing was letting the machine get fully up to speed
>> before putting it on the work surface, and taking it off before
>> releasing the trigger. I also don't put any pressure on it at all -
>> just the weight of the tool. Lastly, I became very careful about
>> where I set the sander when not in use, as maybe it was picking up
>> pieces of grit from the bench or something.
>>
>> Is this pretty much SOP for you veterans out there? Any other ideas
>> as to what may have been causing the swirls?
>>
>Yeah, your are learning... ;~)

....the hard way. I'm the man with no fingerprints right now.

> Don't set the sander on the work unless it
>is running and don't turn it off unless it is in the air.

>> Lastly, anyone use the Grizzly electric palm sander? $16 a piece
>> seems awfully *cheap* to me....
>
>At first it seems cheap... Get a good one and it will be even cheaper in
>the long run. Take a look at the PC SpeedBloc. About $80.

Will do. Thanks.

JP


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