For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
another type of wood?
Thanks
MAB
Is that $2.50 in US$? Wow, pricey - up here (Canada) I'm paying (from a
local mill, of which there are plenty around me in Ottawa) about $2 Canadian
a board foot.
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 1. Because you are buying it at the borg. They are not the most
> cost-effective source for hardwood.
> 2. You are paying a premium for S4S (surfaced four sides).
> 3. Thats about $3.50/bf which is really not that bad. I pay about $2.50/bf
> for Oak here in the Northeast for rough-cut.
> 4.Why do you consider Oak a secondary wood? It's not exotic, but....
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> > is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> > 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> > This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
> >
> > Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> > expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> > another type of wood?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > MAB
>
>
Well, with tongue in cheek - -
I tend to agree with the OP. Red oak certainly doesn't compare with walnut,
cherry, mahogany, or maple in my book. It smells when you cut it, doesn't
stain well, and I don't like the grain pattern. I rate it with poplar and
pine, I actually prefer pine.
Quarter sawn white oak is another matter, however, there has been an
incredible amount of ugly, dark oak furniture made. Green and Green is a
refreshing relief, but they often used cherry if I remember correctly.
I'm thinking of using ash in the future.
Having said all of the above, I may change my mind next week. :-)
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Maab) wrote:
>
> Perhaps you have a distorted picture of "expensive". Or a distorted
picture of
> how much red oak lumber "should" cost. Or a distorted picture of what red
oak
> lumber *is* -- "poor man's pine" indeed! <snort>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
>
> For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter,
> send email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
>
>
Where are you getting oak for this price around Ottawa? Am I correct in
assuming that's rough lumber?
Robert Wein wrote:
> Is that $2.50 in US$? Wow, pricey - up here (Canada) I'm paying (from a
> local mill, of which there are plenty around me in Ottawa) about $2 Canadian
> a board foot.
>
>
>
> "Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>1. Because you are buying it at the borg. They are not the most
>>cost-effective source for hardwood.
>>2. You are paying a premium for S4S (surfaced four sides).
>>3. Thats about $3.50/bf which is really not that bad. I pay about $2.50/bf
>>for Oak here in the Northeast for rough-cut.
>>4.Why do you consider Oak a secondary wood? It's not exotic, but....
>>
>>-Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
>>>is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
>>>1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
>>>This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
>>>
>>>Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
>>>expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
>>>another type of wood?
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>MAB
>>>
>>
>
>
If you have a supply of genuine mahogany for $2.20 BF rough sawn, kiln
dried I will take 20 tons tomorrow to start.
You may have African, but I cannot get that price on mahogany at the
mills in Nicaragua.
JJ
Lots of teak for sale $4-5/ bf +shipping from Houston
JJ
bob wrote:
>
> I don't do much with oak anymore. I have a steady supply of genuine
> mahogany and white mahogany for two bucks a board foot.
>
> Bob
>
> "Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> > is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> > 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> > This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
> >
> > Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> > expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> > another type of wood?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > MAB
Lowell Holes wrote:
>
> Well. tell us where to get the teak. I'll come get some.
>
> "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > JJ
> > Lots of teak for sale $4-5/ bf +shipping from Houston
> >
610 North between Ell and TC Jester at the Shurgard.
JJ
Not any more. I used to be in the business, but health problems last
year forced me to shut down. There is a bunch of old inventory in
storage.
Email at this address off the list if you really are serious and I will
send tel. contact info.
JJ
Lowell Holmes wrote:
>
> Is there a company name?
> "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
One of the tricks is to find a species of wood that looks like mahogany
when sawn and just call it that because of similar characteristics.
Funnily, some of the fake mahoganies are better woods to work with than
the Swietenia macrophylla. A similar thing is happening with the
rosewoods and "genuine" requires species definition.
JJ
Cheap teak for sale.
bob wrote:
>
> Well, they told me it was genuine mahogany, and it looks damn good for the
> price! Actually, I prefer the white mahogany, as you can stain it any color
> you want and don't have that reddish color of genuine. The stuff comes from
> somewhere in South America - managed forests!
>
> "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > If you have a supply of genuine mahogany for $2.20 BF rough sawn, kiln
> > dried I will take 20 tons tomorrow to start.
> >
> > You may have African, but I cannot get that price on mahogany at the
> > mills in Nicaragua.
> >
> > JJ
> > Lots of teak for sale $4-5/ bf +shipping from Houston
> >
> > JJ
> >
> > bob wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't do much with oak anymore. I have a steady supply of genuine
> > > mahogany and white mahogany for two bucks a board foot.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > "Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> > > > is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> > > > 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> > > > This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
> > > >
> > > > Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> > > > expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> > > > another type of wood?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > MAB
If you are serious about figured boars, I have all the CITES paperwork
and can get nicely figured boards air freighted into the USA for less
than $20 depending on size, or courier shipped if they are very big. I
am pretty much out of the business but still have lots of friends that
would love to sell the the yanks :-)
How about cocobolo, six feet long for $12/ bf +shipping :-)
Jeremy
contact me for cheap teak, remove the cigar to reply
Andy Dangly wrote:
>
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:07:43 -0500, "bob"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I don't do much with oak anymore. I have a steady supply of genuine
> >mahogany and white mahogany for two bucks a board foot.
>
> $2/bf wouldn't pay for the CITES paperwork on _genuine_ mahogany
>
> Mine cost me nearer $30, and it's not the best figured boards.
Well. tell us where to get the teak. I'll come get some.
"Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> JJ
> Lots of teak for sale $4-5/ bf +shipping from Houston
>
Is there a company name?
"Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Lowell Holes wrote:
> >
> > Well. tell us where to get the teak. I'll come get some.
> >
> > "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > JJ
> > > Lots of teak for sale $4-5/ bf +shipping from Houston
> > >
>
>
> 610 North between Ell and TC Jester at the Shurgard.
>
> JJ
Does cover the smugglers' fees, though.
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> $2/bf wouldn't pay for the CITES paperwork on _genuine_ mahogany
>
> Mine cost me nearer $30, and it's not the best figured boards.
>
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Maab) wrote:
>For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
>is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
>1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
$35 for 10 board feet = $3.50 / board foot, which actually isn't too bad a
price for S4S oak lumber. That said, there are many better places to buy
hardwoods than HD or Lowe's. Try looking in the Yellow Pages under 'Lumber'
for a dealer that specializes in hardwoods.
>This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
It isn't. What gave you the idea that it was? Oak and pine are *nothing*
alike. Not in physical properties, not in appearance, not in price.
>Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
>expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
>another type of wood?
Perhaps you have a distorted picture of "expensive". Or a distorted picture of
how much red oak lumber "should" cost. Or a distorted picture of what red oak
lumber *is* -- "poor man's pine" indeed! <snort>
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter,
send email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
Because your buying it at Lowes.
"Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
>
> Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> another type of wood?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> MAB
I don't do much with oak anymore. I have a steady supply of genuine
mahogany and white mahogany for two bucks a board foot.
Bob
"Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
>
> Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> another type of wood?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> MAB
1. Because you are buying it at the borg. They are not the most
cost-effective source for hardwood.
2. You are paying a premium for S4S (surfaced four sides).
3. Thats about $3.50/bf which is really not that bad. I pay about $2.50/bf
for Oak here in the Northeast for rough-cut.
4.Why do you consider Oak a secondary wood? It's not exotic, but....
-Steve
"Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
>
> Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> another type of wood?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> MAB
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:07:43 -0500, "bob"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't do much with oak anymore. I have a steady supply of genuine
>mahogany and white mahogany for two bucks a board foot.
$2/bf wouldn't pay for the CITES paperwork on _genuine_ mahogany
Mine cost me nearer $30, and it's not the best figured boards.
Do you have any contact info for your source at 2bf? CDN in Ottawa. I tried
woodsource but they want much more.
Thanks in advance,
Tom
"Robert Wein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is that $2.50 in US$? Wow, pricey - up here (Canada) I'm paying (from a
> local mill, of which there are plenty around me in Ottawa) about $2
Canadian
> a board foot.
>
>
>
> "Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > 1. Because you are buying it at the borg. They are not the most
> > cost-effective source for hardwood.
> > 2. You are paying a premium for S4S (surfaced four sides).
> > 3. Thats about $3.50/bf which is really not that bad. I pay about
$2.50/bf
> > for Oak here in the Northeast for rough-cut.
> > 4.Why do you consider Oak a secondary wood? It's not exotic, but....
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> > > is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> > > 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> > > This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
> > >
> > > Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> > > expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> > > another type of wood?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > MAB
> >
> >
>
>
Well, they told me it was genuine mahogany, and it looks damn good for the
price! Actually, I prefer the white mahogany, as you can stain it any color
you want and don't have that reddish color of genuine. The stuff comes from
somewhere in South America - managed forests!
"Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you have a supply of genuine mahogany for $2.20 BF rough sawn, kiln
> dried I will take 20 tons tomorrow to start.
>
> You may have African, but I cannot get that price on mahogany at the
> mills in Nicaragua.
>
> JJ
> Lots of teak for sale $4-5/ bf +shipping from Houston
>
> JJ
>
> bob wrote:
> >
> > I don't do much with oak anymore. I have a steady supply of genuine
> > mahogany and white mahogany for two bucks a board foot.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > "Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> > > is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> > > 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> > > This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
> > >
> > > Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> > > expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> > > another type of wood?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > MAB
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 23:09:30 -0500, "bob"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, they told me it was genuine mahogany, and it looks damn good for the
>price! Actually, I prefer the white mahogany, as you can stain it any color
>you want and don't have that reddish color of genuine. The stuff comes from
>somewhere in South America - managed forests!
White mahogany sounds like the stuff from the Philippines that is used
to make luan plywood and door skins.
Do you know if it's a similar species?
Barry
Is that "1" piece of wood or several pieces glued up to make one wide board?
"Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
>
> Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> another type of wood?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> MAB
In article <[email protected]>,
"Robert Wein" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is that $2.50 in US$? Wow, pricey - up here (Canada) I'm paying (from a
> local mill, of which there are plenty around me in Ottawa) about $2 Canadian
> a board foot.
OK, you GOTTA give me the name of the mill. I have been getting raped on
oak. It sure isn't the wood-source. I had become convinced I would have
to drive for hours outside of Ottawa to get some sanely priced wood.
Oak sure should be cheap around here. Its not like we are short on it or
anything.
Ya, but that's before they slap the tariff on it:)
"Robert Wein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is that $2.50 in US$? Wow, pricey - up here (Canada) I'm paying (from a
> local mill, of which there are plenty around me in Ottawa) about $2
Canadian
> a board foot.
>
>
>
> "Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > 1. Because you are buying it at the borg. They are not the most
> > cost-effective source for hardwood.
> > 2. You are paying a premium for S4S (surfaced four sides).
> > 3. Thats about $3.50/bf which is really not that bad. I pay about
$2.50/bf
> > for Oak here in the Northeast for rough-cut.
> > 4.Why do you consider Oak a secondary wood? It's not exotic, but....
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Maab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > For a secondary wood it sure seems that Oak
> > > is expensive. Why is this? A one foot by
> > > 1" by 10 foot board of red is about $35 at HD/Lwes.
> > > This sure doesn't seem like a "poor man's pine" to me.
> > >
> > > Why is a wood that considered to be so average so
> > > expensive? I don't understand...am I thinking of
> > > another type of wood?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > MAB
> >
> >
>
>