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Nfilter is used successfully by wreck members using the following O.S.'s -
Win98se, XP Home, XP Pro, Win2K, and Win2K Advanced Server.
1. Download & install NewsProxy from http://www.nfilter.org/
Basic instructions are at http://www.nfilter.org/faq.html#2.2
*** The Nfilter web site is gone! ***
Robert Bonomi has been kind enough to host the program for us wreckers,
click the link to get a copy of Nfilter and some other useful info,
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Thank you Robert.
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2. Copy the "NewsProxy" shortcut from - C:\Program Files\NewsProxy\
To - C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\
[this is for Win98se, modify this to suit your OS.]
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Enter "localhost" (without the quote marks) in the Server Name box.
Some O.S.'s may require you use 127.0.0.1 in the Server Name box.
How was the carving messed up, if you care to share?
> It would have been more perfect on the table if numb nuts BIL hadn't decided
> he could carve turkey.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Scott Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 26 Nov 2003, Michael Baglio <mbaglio spake unto rec.woodworking:
>
>>
>> HEY! Where's the tagline?
>> I miss those. :)
>>
>> FAQ for Rec.Woodworking*** now with 1/3 less fat!
>> with Platformate!
>> ketchupier!
>> live and in color!
>> more horsepower!
>> cheesier!
>> less static cling!
>> BAD to the bone!
>>
>> ...okay, forget the last one...
>>
>> Anybody else not doing much today? ;>
>
> Nope, just waiting for SWMBO's uncle to drop off the home-grown 40#
>turkey for tomorrow's afternoon snack. I'm convinced the thing isn't
>really a turkey, but a Cornish Game Ostrich.
Phone call for you... some guy named Sinbad. Sounds *really* p*ssed off.
Something about a "Roc"
Or maybe the uncle was actually raising a 'rary bird'.
It would have done just as well had I jointed one edge and one face and sent
it through the planer.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"jo4hn" wrote in message
> You need to take a look at Doug Winterburn's carving project on A.B.P.W.
> It will add a certain panache to the proceedings, not to mention a
> probable listine in the Guiness Book.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
>
> Swingman wrote:
>
> [snip]... numb nuts, after I neuter him next time I
> > see him, will definitely fall within the "no exceptions".
On 26 Nov 2003, Michael Baglio <mbaglio spake unto rec.woodworking:
>
> HEY! Where's the tagline?
> I miss those. :)
>
> FAQ for Rec.Woodworking*** now with 1/3 less fat!
> with Platformate!
> ketchupier!
> live and in color!
> more horsepower!
> cheesier!
> less static cling!
> BAD to the bone!
>
> ...okay, forget the last one...
>
> Anybody else not doing much today? ;>
Nope, just waiting for SWMBO's uncle to drop off the home-grown 40#
turkey for tomorrow's afternoon snack. I'm convinced the thing isn't
really a turkey, but a Cornish Game Ostrich.
On 27 Nov 2003, Robert Bonomi spake unto rec.woodworking:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Scott Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On 26 Nov 2003, Michael Baglio <mbaglio spake unto rec.woodworking:
>>
>>>
>>> HEY! Where's the tagline?
>>> I miss those. :)
>>>
>>> FAQ for Rec.Woodworking*** now with 1/3 less fat!
>>> with Platformate!
>>> ketchupier!
>>> live and in color!
>>> more horsepower!
>>> cheesier!
>>> less static cling!
>>> BAD to the bone!
>>>
>>> ...okay, forget the last one...
>>>
>>> Anybody else not doing much today? ;>
>>
>> Nope, just waiting for SWMBO's uncle to drop off the
>> home-grown 40#
>>turkey for tomorrow's afternoon snack. I'm convinced the thing isn't
>>really a turkey, but a Cornish Game Ostrich.
>
> Phone call for you... some guy named Sinbad. Sounds *really* p*ssed
> off.
>
> Something about a "Roc"
Hah!
SWMBO's mother insisted that the thing needed 9 hours in the oven,
based on last year's bird, which she felt had been undercooked. Not that
SHE had had anything to do with it, mind you.
It was done in 7. We turned off the oven, and left it in to stay
warm. By the time dinner was ready to put on the table, the meat was
falling off the bones, and a bit dry. Fortunately, there was plenty of
wine with dinner to help wash it down.
In article <[email protected]>, Scott Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
> SWMBO's mother insisted that the thing needed 9 hours in the oven,
>based on last year's bird, which she felt had been undercooked. Not that
>SHE had had anything to do with it, mind you.
>
> It was done in 7. We turned off the oven, and left it in to stay
>warm. By the time dinner was ready to put on the table, the meat was
>falling off the bones, and a bit dry. Fortunately, there was plenty of
>wine with dinner to help wash it down.
Try microwaving it -- best turkey you will ever eat. Soft and juicy, not a bit
dried out. And takes less than two hours, even for a 20+ pound bird.
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
Mine (19lbs) was done perfectly in 4 hours, just laying in the oven at 325,
no bags, no tricks, no fuss, no muss, just a little tender lovin' basting
toward the end.
It would have been more perfect on the table if numb nuts BIL hadn't decided
he could carve turkey.
I have a rule at Thanksgiving and Christmas ... Absolutely NO women allowed
in the kitchen, No exceptions! ... numb nuts, after I neuter him next time I
see him, will definitely fall within the "no exceptions".
My favorite part of Thanksgiving is the culinary aftermath: _My_ breakfast
this morning was two eggs, over easy, on top of a generous helping of
leftover dirty rice dressing.
... Now _that_ is coonass culinary heaven, I guarantee!
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"jo4hn" wrote in message
> Maggy cooks her birds in a brown paper grocery bag. Holds the juices in
> but breathes well. Juicy and tender and ... think I'll just go have a
> turkey and cranberry sandwich. Mas tarde.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
>
> Scott Cramer wrote:
> [snip]>
> > SWMBO's mother insisted that the thing needed 9 hours in the oven,
> > based on last year's bird, which she felt had been undercooked. Not
that
> > SHE had had anything to do with it, mind you.
> >
> > It was done in 7. We turned off the oven, and left it in to stay
> > warm. By the time dinner was ready to put on the table, the meat was
> > falling off the bones, and a bit dry. Fortunately, there was plenty of
> > wine with dinner to help wash it down.
>
Maggy cooks her birds in a brown paper grocery bag. Holds the juices in
but breathes well. Juicy and tender and ... think I'll just go have a
turkey and cranberry sandwich. Mas tarde.
mahalo,
jo4hn
Scott Cramer wrote:
[snip]>
> SWMBO's mother insisted that the thing needed 9 hours in the oven,
> based on last year's bird, which she felt had been undercooked. Not that
> SHE had had anything to do with it, mind you.
>
> It was done in 7. We turned off the oven, and left it in to stay
> warm. By the time dinner was ready to put on the table, the meat was
> falling off the bones, and a bit dry. Fortunately, there was plenty of
> wine with dinner to help wash it down.
Michael Baglio wrote:
>Anybody else not doing much today? ;>
Just sitting here in the afterglow of a B.A.D.M. after
uploading a write up on my pre-Delta clone Powermatic band
saw to the OWWM Photo Index.
http://owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id=973
After that the wee gurl (Claire, age 8) and I are maybe off
to the art store for some supplies and contemplating what to
do with ourselves for the next five days.
sigh...
UA100
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:27:36 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> brought
forth from the murky depths:
>You need to take a look at Doug Winterburn's carving project on A.B.P.W.
> It will add a certain panache to the proceedings, not to mention a
>probable listine in the Guiness Book.
Got an actual URL for that? I don't track abpw.
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:52:54 GMT, Larry Jaques <jake@di\/ersify.com>
scribbled
>On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:27:36 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> brought
>forth from the murky depths:
>
>>You need to take a look at Doug Winterburn's carving project on A.B.P.W.
>> It will add a certain panache to the proceedings, not to mention a
>>probable listine in the Guiness Book.
>
>Got an actual URL for that? I don't track abpw.
There was this guy on ABPF with a misspelled French name who suggested
the following a few months ago:
http://burner1.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/archive?scan=alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
instead. :-)
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" for real email address
You need to take a look at Doug Winterburn's carving project on A.B.P.W.
It will add a certain panache to the proceedings, not to mention a
probable listine in the Guiness Book.
mahalo,
jo4hn
Swingman wrote:
[snip]... numb nuts, after I neuter him next time I
> see him, will definitely fall within the "no exceptions".
>