Anybody else here watch the Sopranos? Sure you do. Anyway, last week Tony
S. is at his late fathers mistresses apartment. The place is 70's style I
guess, including the kitchen. The kitchen cabinets are nice enough, natural
wood of some kind with recessed panel doors. However, the pulls are in the
center of each door panel. I don't mean the center of the stile, I mean
dead center in the panel. Looked like shewt IMO. I know the show is mostly
filmed on location, the Soprano house is an actual residence for example,
but I wonder about those cabinets. I'm thinking totally clueless
do-it-yourselfer, or maybe a set designers joke, or just maybe that was a
style in the 70's.
Any guesses?
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http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Anybody else here watch the Sopranos? Sure you do. Anyway, last week
Tony
> S. is at his late fathers mistresses apartment. The place is 70's style I
> guess, including the kitchen. The kitchen cabinets are nice enough,
natural
> wood of some kind with recessed panel doors. However, the pulls are in
the
> center of each door panel. I don't mean the center of the stile, I mean
> dead center in the panel. Looked like shewt IMO. I know the show is
mostly
> filmed on location, the Soprano house is an actual residence for example,
> but I wonder about those cabinets. I'm thinking totally clueless
> do-it-yourselfer, or maybe a set designers joke, or just maybe that was a
> style in the 70's.
>
> Any guesses?
>
> --
> Bill Pounds
> http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop
>
>
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My house had this style in it originally, circa 1968, when the home was
built. The center pulls were mainly for decoration. They had a backside
cutout at the bottom corner of each door so that you could get hold of them
to open them. We quickly replaced them with modern Haas cherry semi-custom
cabinets.
David S.
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> When I was a student (so I'm sharing a house with supposedly "smart"
> people) the toilet cistern overflowed. So the people in the house
> _let_ it overflow, while they tried to find me in the pub to come back
> and fix it. Not one of them thought "Keep flushing it to empty it" in
> the meantime,.
You are blaming people for not acting. In our society they are considered
victims and you are guilty because you were in a pub instead of watching out
for them. I think I need a lawyer or politician to get this straightened
out.
Ed
It seemed it would be odd to use them. And real easy to smack yourself in
the head with the door.
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Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop
"Alan Bierbaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Actually these style doors, and pulls, are not that rare. In the
> process of remodeling several hundred kitchens, I have run across this
> a large number of times. It is an awkward way to try and open doors
> though.
> Alan Bierbaum
>
> web site: http://www.calanb.com
I have seen that. They do some strange stuff when a "designer" does what is
astheticly pleasing (to them) without considering function.
Of course there are lots of people who have "walk through" kitchens and they
never really cook anything in them. The more expensive the house, the less
likely someone will actually "live" there.
My wife builds $750,000 houses that are used about 2-3 weeks a year and the
people eat every meal out. These people get a bill from the country club,
whether they actually eat there or not.
On Sun, 2 May 2004 02:56:22 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>in it they asked rich people in some ultra rich part of NYC some questions
>that you would think anyone would know, but of course they were clueless.
>questions like how much does it cost to supersize at mcdonalds. even if you
>never eat there how can you avoid the commercials for it? and the guesses
>were just miles off...
So, you think those folks actually watch TV? <G> They do things
like fly the jets they own, ski Aspen or Zermatt, attend after parties
at the Tour de France or Wimbledon. Or on some cases, they spend
their waking moments running the business, making more money.
In other words, they DO things that common people watch documentaries
about.
>its been a long time but there were lots of funny questions, i just dont
>remember many of them. only other one that comes to mind was that the rich
>all answered 'call a plumber' to the question 'what do you do if you try and
>flush the toilet and nothing happnes when you use the lever'.
>i mean come
>on. you got so much money and so little brains it never occurs to you to
>take the lid off and at least have a little looksie?
Why? Think of $250 in their eyes, as I wrote this, they probably made
that much. Many of these folks do not have "more money than brains",
they are using the brain to do much more important things than fix
toilets. Paris Hilton excepted. <G> "More money than brains" may
apply to some athletes, but most of them don't stay rich. The truly
rich, and staying that way, simply have better things to do.
>im sure it was edited to make the rich look even sillier than they would
>have on their own, but it was pretty funny. and probably not that far
>off...
I'm sure it isn't, but think about the real reasons.
Barry
The wife of a buddy of mine has a gig watching some rich couples' dog while
they're on vac. He's told me stories about how the rich live. My sister
in-law splits the year between houses in two states (weather preference).
But your comments top them all.
High dollar homes paid for, but largely unutilized, while paying CC dues
(probably big bucks)? Amazing. I watch for sales on white oak, and these
people piss away huge sums of money. I've always told myself that if I came
into a giant pile of money, I'd be different. Probably not.
*****
"Greg" <[email protected]> blah, blah...
[snip]
My wife builds $750,000 houses that are used about 2-3 weeks a year and the
people eat every meal out. These people get a bill from the country club,
whether they actually eat there or not.
On Sun, 2 May 2004 02:56:22 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>how much does it cost to supersize at mcdonalds.
I have no idea - no TV. I don't even know where McDonalds _is_ (I
live in a fairly big city - I guess we must have them somewhere)
>all answered 'call a plumber' to the question 'what do you do if you try and
>flush the toilet and nothing happnes when you use the lever'.
Of the people you know, for how many of them would this be good
advice? I know people who can barely work something as complicated as
the external lever.
When I was a student (so I'm sharing a house with supposedly "smart"
people) the toilet cistern overflowed. So the people in the house
_let_ it overflow, while they tried to find me in the pub to come back
and fix it. Not one of them thought "Keep flushing it to empty it" in
the meantime,.
if this sort of thing amuses you, read a copy of Paul Fussell's
"Class"
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671792253/codesmiths-20>
--
Smert' spamionam
> Anybody else here watch the Sopranos? Sure you do. Anyway, last week
Tony
> S. is at his late fathers mistresses apartment. The place is 70's style I
> guess, including the kitchen. The kitchen cabinets are nice enough,
natural
> wood of some kind with recessed panel doors. However, the pulls are in
the
> center of each door panel. I don't mean the center of the stile, I mean
> dead center in the panel. Looked like shewt IMO. I know the show is
mostly
> filmed on location, the Soprano house is an actual residence for example,
> but I wonder about those cabinets. I'm thinking totally clueless
> do-it-yourselfer, or maybe a set designers joke, or just maybe that was a
> style in the 70's.
Everytime I see Uncle Junior's house, and especially his couch, it looks
like the house i grew up in....
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>Anybody else here watch the Sopranos? Sure you do. Anyway, last week Tony
>S. is at his late fathers mistresses apartment. The place is 70's style I
>guess, including the kitchen. The kitchen cabinets are nice enough, natural
>wood of some kind with recessed panel doors. However, the pulls are in the
>center of each door panel. I don't mean the center of the stile, I mean
>dead center in the panel. Looked like shewt IMO. I know the show is mostly
>filmed on location, the Soprano house is an actual residence for example,
>but I wonder about those cabinets. I'm thinking totally clueless
>do-it-yourselfer, or maybe a set designers joke, or just maybe that was a
>style in the 70's.
>
Those of us who remember the 70's also remember Buffy and Jody's[*] front
door - with the knob dead center. I think it was just one of those
"designer" things (along with avocado colored kitchens - blech...).
scott
[*] Family Affair.
"Oregon" wrote in message
> people piss away huge sums of money. I've always told myself that if I
came
> into a giant pile of money, I'd be different. Probably not.
You're probably right ... it's most definitely a different world. I only
know this because of one of my sisters and her husband, at one time one of
the richest men in the world according to Forbes, although they've come down
a bit in the world and apparently only have a few hundred million left these
days, once paid to have the logs in the "great room" (38 feet high, 80 feet
long, 40 feet wide) of _one_ of their summer homes in WI, _hand rubbed_ with
an oil/varnish finish.
Hell, besides the fact that it takes me almost two weeks to do that to one
of my small projects, I could probably buy enough quarter sawn white oak to
last the rest of my life with just what it cost to do that one room.
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Last update: 4/13/04
I carpooled with a guy whose brother-in-law worked at the Parker House
which, at the time, was one of the big hotels in Boston. The
brother-in-law old us of a couple who maintained an annual lease on a suite
in the hotel for those occasions when they came to Boston. The hotel staff
dutifully fulfilled the people's standing requests which included replacing
fresh cigarettes in containers in each room and having some veal delivered
each day from a certain butcher in East Boston for a dog who was the only
actual resident in the suite. The hotel staff was in a tizzy one day, the
brother-in-law said, because word had come that the people were going to
show up that day while they were waiting for flight connections at Logan
Airport. No one at the hotel had seen these people for four years! The day
came and went and the people never showed up. I can only imagine what an
annual lease for a suite costs. These people live in a different galaxy than
me because I am like the person that said he looks for white oak sales. Its
one thing to spend extravagantly if you use the stuff you buy. It is quite
another thing to spend but let the money go to waste.
Another interesting part of this story....
I was in the brother-in-laws apartment because the carpool car died and we
had to wait a couple of hours for a tow truck to show up. The apartment was
on Beacon Hill and had a big skylight window, like on the TV program
Friends, that looked over the Boston skyline. The view was awesome! The
apartment itself (i.e.decorations, etc.) could best be described as refined
and elegant. I remember commenting on a knickknack the guy had on his
coffee table. It was a U shaped piece of ivory or bone that was set on a
short stand. I mention that it reminded me of a type of pillow I had seem
in the Fine Arts museum. The brother-in-law confirmed that it was, in fact,
a 3500 year old Egyptian neck brace (i.e. pillow). At best, my coffee table
usually sports a can of diet Sprite!
The moral is everybody is different!
"Oregon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The wife of a buddy of mine has a gig watching some rich couples' dog
while
> they're on vac. He's told me stories about how the rich live. My sister
> in-law splits the year between houses in two states (weather preference).
> But your comments top them all.
> High dollar homes paid for, but largely unutilized, while paying CC dues
> (probably big bucks)? Amazing. I watch for sales on white oak, and these
> people piss away huge sums of money. I've always told myself that if I
came
> into a giant pile of money, I'd be different. Probably not.
>
>
> *****
>
> "Greg" <[email protected]> blah, blah...
> [snip]
> My wife builds $750,000 houses that are used about 2-3 weeks a year and
the
> people eat every meal out. These people get a bill from the country club,
> whether they actually eat there or not.
>
>
i cant remember if it was tv nation, or the awful truth, one of michael
moore's tv shows anyway.
in it they asked rich people in some ultra rich part of NYC some questions
that you would think anyone would know, but of course they were clueless.
questions like how much does it cost to supersize at mcdonalds. even if you
never eat there how can you avoid the commercials for it? and the guesses
were just miles off...
its been a long time but there were lots of funny questions, i just dont
remember many of them. only other one that comes to mind was that the rich
all answered 'call a plumber' to the question 'what do you do if you try and
flush the toilet and nothing happnes when you use the lever'. i mean come
on. you got so much money and so little brains it never occurs to you to
take the lid off and at least have a little looksie?
im sure it was edited to make the rich look even sillier than they would
have on their own, but it was pretty funny. and probably not that far
off...
randy
"Greg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have seen that. They do some strange stuff when a "designer" does what
is
> astheticly pleasing (to them) without considering function.
> Of course there are lots of people who have "walk through" kitchens and
they
> never really cook anything in them. The more expensive the house, the less
> likely someone will actually "live" there.
> My wife builds $750,000 houses that are used about 2-3 weeks a year and
the
> people eat every meal out. These people get a bill from the country club,
> whether they actually eat there or not.
xrongor notes:
>i cant remember if it was tv nation, or the awful truth, one of michael
>moore's tv shows anyway.
>
>in it they asked rich people in some ultra rich part of NYC some questions
>that you would think anyone would know, but of course they were clueless.
>questions like how much does it cost to supersize at mcdonalds. even if you
>never eat there how can you avoid the commercials for it? and the guesses
>were just miles off...
I'm a long, long way from rich, but...how much does it cost to super-size a
McDonald's whatever? I don't watch the commercials, either.
>all answered 'call a plumber' to the question 'what do you do if you try and
>flush the toilet and nothing happnes when you use the lever'. i mean come
>on. you got so much money and so little brains it never occurs to you to
>take the lid off and at least have a little looksie?
Or a lack of interest? You know you're not going to know what to do about what
you might see, so why look?
Charlie Self
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." Napoleon Bonaparte
Mike Patterson <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I -really- liked Sissy.... ;-)
Apparently Vito really liked Mr. French.
On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:17:40 -0700, "Pounds on Wood"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>The place is 70's style I guess, including the kitchen.
If you didn't live through it, you can't believe the horror that was
The Decade That Style Forgot.
Ditto Andy !
Puff
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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> On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:17:40 -0700, "Pounds on Wood"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> >The place is 70's style I guess, including the kitchen. =20
>=20
> If you didn't live through it, you can't believe the horror that was
> The Decade That Style Forgot.
>
On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:17:40 -0700, "Pounds on Wood"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The kitchen cabinets are nice enough, natural
>wood of some kind with recessed panel doors. However, the pulls are in the
>center of each door panel. I don't mean the center of the stile, I mean
>dead center in the panel. Looked like shewt IMO. I know the show is mostly
>filmed on location, the Soprano house is an actual residence for example,
>but I wonder about those cabinets. I'm thinking totally clueless
>do-it-yourselfer, or maybe a set designers joke, or just maybe that was a
>style in the 70's.
>
>Any guesses?
Actually these style doors, and pulls, are not that rare. In the
process of remodeling several hundred kitchens, I have run across this
a large number of times. It is an awkward way to try and open doors
though.
Alan Bierbaum
web site: http://www.calanb.com
On Mon, 03 May 2004 17:27:03 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
>"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>Anybody else here watch the Sopranos? Sure you do. Anyway, last week Tony
>>S. is at his late fathers mistresses apartment. The place is 70's style I
>>guess, including the kitchen. The kitchen cabinets are nice enough, natural
>>wood of some kind with recessed panel doors. However, the pulls are in the
>>center of each door panel. I don't mean the center of the stile, I mean
>>dead center in the panel. Looked like shewt IMO. I know the show is mostly
>>filmed on location, the Soprano house is an actual residence for example,
>>but I wonder about those cabinets. I'm thinking totally clueless
>>do-it-yourselfer, or maybe a set designers joke, or just maybe that was a
>>style in the 70's.
>>
>
>Those of us who remember the 70's also remember Buffy and Jody's[*] front
>door - with the knob dead center. I think it was just one of those
>"designer" things (along with avocado colored kitchens - blech...).
>
>scott
>
>[*] Family Affair.
I remember the show, but not the doorknob.
I -really- liked Sissy.... ;-)
Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
In article <[email protected]>,
"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote:
> how much does it cost to supersize at mcdonalds
Hmmm...I don't know the answer to this one, but do know that you won't
be able to do so soon. Does that make me rich and informed, stupid, what?
As to the plumber thing...well, I have quite a few very urban friends;
hard-core city people that have absolutely zero clue about any sort of
house maintenance. When many of them bought houses, they called me quite
a bit. Lots of 'em called professionals or let things be; things which
were extremely easily repaired. Me, I am somewhere in-between; born in
farm country to rural-bred parents, brought up mostly urban. I'll poke
my hands into lots of things which I know nothing about, but still shy
from a few things that my father will happily take a swing at.
None of us are rich, just apparently a different culture. Mr. Moore, who
does amuse me, most certainly selected his targets carefully (NY is a
very good start) and then edited the tape for only those responses which
would suit him. This is in-line with other TV production; interesting
and amusing, but you have to be real careful about drawing conclusions
from it.
On Sat, 1 May 2004 09:17:40 -0700, "Pounds on Wood"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Anybody else here watch the Sopranos? Sure you do. Anyway, last week Tony
>S. is at his late fathers mistresses apartment. The place is 70's style I
>guess, including the kitchen. The kitchen cabinets are nice enough, natural
>wood of some kind with recessed panel doors. However, the pulls are in the
>center of each door panel. I don't mean the center of the stile, I mean
>dead center in the panel. Looked like shewt IMO. I know the show is mostly
>filmed on location, the Soprano house is an actual residence for example,
>but I wonder about those cabinets. I'm thinking totally clueless
>do-it-yourselfer, or maybe a set designers joke, or just maybe that was a
>style in the 70's.
>
>Any guesses?
while i agree with your assessment some 70's cabinets were done that
way. mostly the DIY variety i think.
skeez