t

"1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]>

26/12/2005 3:30 AM

OT: Sgt. Myla L. Maravillosa, 24, of Wahiawa, Hawaii, died in Kirkuk, Iraq, on Dec. 24, of injuries sustained earlier that day in Al Hawijah, Iraq,

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 1326-05
December 25, 2005

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DoD Identifies Army Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier
who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.



Sgt. Myla L. Maravillosa, 24, of Wahiawa, Hawaii, died in
Kirkuk, Iraq, on Dec. 24, of injuries sustained earlier that day in Al
Hawijah, Iraq, when her HMMWV was attacked by enemy forces using
rocket-propelled grenades. Maravillosa was assigned to the Army Reserve's
203rd Military Intelligence Battalion, Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md.


This topic has 25 replies

t

"1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]>

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

27/12/2005 3:53 PM

That your still one most self centered, self absorbed of the tiny little
small sawdust men!


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:dAcsf.40804$q%[email protected]...
>
> "Frank Arthur" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Yes you wouldn't want to disturb your devotion to Christ and roast turkey
>> just because an American died for you in Iraq?
>
>
> Correct, No sense in tampering with God's will. What's going to happen
> is going to happen. The question is have you learned anything?
>

FA

"Frank Arthur"

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 10:52 AM

Yes you wouldn't want to disturb your devotion to Christ and roast turkey
just because an American died for you in Iraq?

"Connor Aston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:op.s2du3cv3qkab0d@vigor13...
> So by telling me this . . . what do you hope to achieve?
> Im interested. Death and destruction with my Turley dinner . . . great?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

27/12/2005 2:54 PM


"Frank Arthur" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes you wouldn't want to disturb your devotion to Christ and roast turkey
> just because an American died for you in Iraq?


Correct, No sense in tampering with God's will. What's going to happen is
going to happen. The question is have you learned anything?

t

"1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]>

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 8:26 PM

Just lick his ass like Mark & Jose do......................


"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:35:28 +0000 (UTC), "Connor Aston"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>And another thing if we all here . . . and to quote you "self-absorbed man
>>made of sawdust" why the hell post here in the first place?
>
> Please don't feed the troll.
>
>
>
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>
> If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
>
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

t

"1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]>

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 2:51 PM

I guess a self-centered. self-absorbed man made of sawdust, could care less
about our soldiers dying this Christmas because it may upset his Turkey
dinner. See you can always spot the guy who NEVER had Christmas overseas,
they're the whiney little ones who only care about themselves!

Hope your a proud turd!





"Connor Aston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:op.s2du3cv3qkab0d@vigor13...
> So by telling me this . . . what do you hope to achieve?
> Im interested. Death and destruction with my Turley dinner . . . great?

t

"1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]>

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 2:51 PM

27/12/2005 2:39 AM

Shit I just bet you did huh sweetheart! I just bet you even know a MOH, but
does he know you? So look help me out, All the Assholes that fuck wiith the
posts, I'll tell off and you kiss there ass's and smooth things over for
me............

I guess you don't know any Marines... Must be either a doggie or a squid. So
when you were killing people in Vietnam how did you behave, were you polite
and mind your manners? Did you said Here Mr. Gook here is some very hot lead
for you. Thank You! Oh Don't mention it! So did you do your tour at disney?

and your were just passing by huh?

you even lie poorly!




"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mon, Dec 26, 2005, 2:51pm (EST+5) [email protected] (1360.9.44.84)
> doth burble:
> <snip>. See you can always spot the guy who NEVER had Christmas
> overseas, <snip>
>
> I had about 10 Christmases oversea, 18 months in Viet Nam (11B40),
> went through the outskirts of a couple of revolutions, and a few
> terrorist incidents. Even passed thru Kalifornery a few times. But, I
> can't see any of that as a reason to be abusive to people, as you are.
> I'm not interested in reading any of your off-topic posts. I check the
> news for information about the war in Iraq. Just jumped in this thread
> because I wanted to see what was said about your post - and your reply
> back. None of the combat vets I've ever known, which includes a Medal
> Of Honor recipient, would ever behave as you do.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
> "know"?.
> - Granny Weatherwax
>

JJ

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 27/12/2005 2:39 AM

27/12/2005 12:35 AM

Tue, Dec 27, 2005, 2:39am (EST+5) [email protected] (1360.9.44.84)
doth burble:
Shit I just bet you did huh sweetheart! I just bet you even know a MOH,
but does he know you? So look help me out, All the Assholes that fuck
wiith the posts, I'll tell off and you kiss there ass's and smooth
things over for
me............
I guess you don't know any Marines... Must be either a doggie or a
squid. So when you were killing people in Vietnam how did you behave,
were you polite and mind your manners? Did you said Here Mr. Gook here
is some very hot lead for you. Thank You! Oh Don't mention it! So did
you do your tour at disney?
and your were just passing by huh?
you even lie poorly!

Gee Buttercup, you really need to hone your communication skills.
You would also be much mure cridible if learned to communicate without
having to use obscenities. If you'd paid attention, you'd have seen
that I used the past tense, not present. And, yes I knew the Medal of
Honor recipient, and yes, he knew me. I didn't say anything about us
being buddies, but we "did" know each other. Vaguely interesting, how
you term someone responding to a post of yours, as "fucking" with it.

No I do "not" know any Marines. However, I was assigned with
Marines for a total of seven years, on three different assignments, so I
DID know some Marines - but I don't know any now.

Kill people in Viet Nam? Me? Where ever did you get a ridiculous
idea like that? Certainly not from me, I never said a word about
killing anyone. I killed no one, there or anywhere else. I also never
called them Gooks. By the way, Disney is spelled with a capital D, and
I've never been there. I spend most of my rout in II Corps, if it
concerns you.

No, I was not just passing by. If you had read what I wrote, you
would have known that. And, I have no need to lie about it. Especially
to you. Or did you not understand it. What I wrote was, "Just jumped
in this thread because I wanted to see what was said about your post -
and your reply back.". That seemed clear enough, but apparently not..
You responded as I expected. I said you need to hone your communication
skills, but perhaps instead I should have said you need to get some.
Rude and crude doesn't gain you credibility, or get your point across,
if you actually had one. And, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you're going
to come back at me with a bunch of obsenities, and then feel superior.
No prob Buttercup. In the meantime I'll check the news for any Iraq
info I want to know. I still think you might be a Jehovah's Witness.
Buh bye.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
"know"?.
- Granny Weatherwax

t

"1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]>

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 27/12/2005 2:39 AM

27/12/2005 3:44 PM

You spelled it out yourself, Disney with a capitol D................ I rest
my case! Only the most clueless would even bother pointing that out!


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tue, Dec 27, 2005, 2:39am (EST+5) [email protected] (1360.9.44.84)
> doth burble:
> Shit I just bet you did huh sweetheart! I just bet you even know a MOH,
> but does he know you? So look help me out, All the Assholes that fuck
> wiith the posts, I'll tell off and you kiss there ass's and smooth
> things over for
> me............
> I guess you don't know any Marines... Must be either a doggie or a
> squid. So when you were killing people in Vietnam how did you behave,
> were you polite and mind your manners? Did you said Here Mr. Gook here
> is some very hot lead for you. Thank You! Oh Don't mention it! So did
> you do your tour at disney?
> and your were just passing by huh?
> you even lie poorly!
>
> Gee Buttercup, you really need to hone your communication skills.
> You would also be much mure cridible if learned to communicate without
> having to use obscenities. If you'd paid attention, you'd have seen
> that I used the past tense, not present. And, yes I knew the Medal of
> Honor recipient, and yes, he knew me. I didn't say anything about us
> being buddies, but we "did" know each other. Vaguely interesting, how
> you term someone responding to a post of yours, as "fucking" with it.
>
> No I do "not" know any Marines. However, I was assigned with
> Marines for a total of seven years, on three different assignments, so I
> DID know some Marines - but I don't know any now.
>
> Kill people in Viet Nam? Me? Where ever did you get a ridiculous
> idea like that? Certainly not from me, I never said a word about
> killing anyone. I killed no one, there or anywhere else. I also never
> called them Gooks. By the way, Disney is spelled with a capital D, and
> I've never been there. I spend most of my rout in II Corps, if it
> concerns you.
>
> No, I was not just passing by. If you had read what I wrote, you
> would have known that. And, I have no need to lie about it. Especially
> to you. Or did you not understand it. What I wrote was, "Just jumped
> in this thread because I wanted to see what was said about your post -
> and your reply back.". That seemed clear enough, but apparently not..
> You responded as I expected. I said you need to hone your communication
> skills, but perhaps instead I should have said you need to get some.
> Rude and crude doesn't gain you credibility, or get your point across,
> if you actually had one. And, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you're going
> to come back at me with a bunch of obsenities, and then feel superior.
> No prob Buttercup. In the meantime I'll check the news for any Iraq
> info I want to know. I still think you might be a Jehovah's Witness.
> Buh bye.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
> "know"?.
> - Granny Weatherwax
>

JJ

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 27/12/2005 3:44 PM

27/12/2005 12:19 PM

Tue, Dec 27, 2005, 3:44pm (EST+5) [email protected] (1360.9.44.84)
made the effort and burbled:
You spelled it out yourself, Disney with a capitol D................ I
rest my case! Only the most clueless would even bother pointing that
out!

Yawn. You were almost vaguely entertaining there for a couple of
minutes, but then you reverted, and are just being silly, Buttercup.
Silly, silly, silly. You trolls are all alike, not entertaining, then
turn to being silly, and figure your case is proven. You don't impress.
Think on this, "Cussing is a weak mind trying to exert itself by force".
Poor little Buttercup. Urp.

I have no agenda, no "mission", nothing to prove, feel good about
myself as a person, have actual friends, and no swearing was used in the
typing of this response.

You have a nice next life.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
"know"?.
- Granny Weatherwax

b

"1.3.60.9.44.84"

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 27/12/2005 3:44 PM

28/12/2005 1:01 AM

No Swearing........... ahhhh what a poor life you must lead. Cussing how
cute! They're only words! Funny how upset you littel children become abd
then you all flock together like chickens. cluck cluck cluck cluck!





"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tue, Dec 27, 2005, 3:44pm (EST+5) [email protected] (1360.9.44.84)
> made the effort and burbled:
> You spelled it out yourself, Disney with a capitol D................ I
> rest my case! Only the most clueless would even bother pointing that
> out!
>
> Yawn. You were almost vaguely entertaining there for a couple of
> minutes, but then you reverted, and are just being silly, Buttercup.
> Silly, silly, silly. You trolls are all alike, not entertaining, then
> turn to being silly, and figure your case is proven. You don't impress.
> Think on this, "Cussing is a weak mind trying to exert itself by force".
> Poor little Buttercup. Urp.
>
> I have no agenda, no "mission", nothing to prove, feel good about
> myself as a person, have actual friends, and no swearing was used in the
> typing of this response.
>
> You have a nice next life.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
> "know"?.
> - Granny Weatherwax
>

JJ

in reply to "1.3.60.9.44.84" on 28/12/2005 1:01 AM

27/12/2005 11:45 PM

Wed, Dec 28, 2005, 1:01am (EST+5) [email protected] (1.3.60.9.44.84)
now burbles:
No Swearing........... ahhhh what a poor life you must lead. Cussing how
cute! They're only words! Funny how upset you littel children become abd
then you all flock together like chickens. cluck cluck cluck cluck!

LMAO You're so silly.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
What do you "know"?
- Granny Weatherwax

b

"1.3.60.9.44.84"

in reply to "1.3.60.9.44.84" on 28/12/2005 1:01 AM

28/12/2005 5:32 AM

I think the bus to disney is loading!




"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wed, Dec 28, 2005, 1:01am (EST+5) [email protected] (1.3.60.9.44.84)
> now burbles:
> No Swearing........... ahhhh what a poor life you must lead. Cussing how
> cute! They're only words! Funny how upset you littel children become abd
> then you all flock together like chickens. cluck cluck cluck cluck!
>
> LMAO You're so silly.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
> What do you "know"?
> - Granny Weatherwax
>

JJ

in reply to "1.3.60.9.44.84" on 28/12/2005 5:32 AM

28/12/2005 11:39 AM

Wed, Dec 28, 2005, 5:32am (EST+5) [email protected] (1.3.60.9.44.84)
doth burble:
I think the bus to disney is loading!

Yeah, I can see you don't want to miss the bus. You have a nice
trip Buttercup. You're too silly for me. If I want silliness, I'll
watch the Three Stooges, at least they have entertainment value, albeit
juvenile... Buh bye Buttercup. May you live in interesting times.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
What do you "know"?
- Granny Weatherwax

b

"1.3.60.9.44.84"

in reply to "1.3.60.9.44.84" on 28/12/2005 5:32 AM

30/12/2005 5:12 PM

try buying a computer.......... I think you've been watching to much of the
boob tube..............it shows!

"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wed, Dec 28, 2005, 5:32am (EST+5) [email protected] (1.3.60.9.44.84)
> doth burble:
> I think the bus to disney is loading!
>
> Yeah, I can see you don't want to miss the bus. You have a nice
> trip Buttercup. You're too silly for me. If I want silliness, I'll
> watch the Three Stooges, at least they have entertainment value, albeit
> juvenile... Buh bye Buttercup. May you live in interesting times.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
> What do you "know"?
> - Granny Weatherwax
>

JJ

in reply to "1.3.60.9.44.84" on 30/12/2005 5:12 PM

30/12/2005 7:04 PM

Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 5:12pm (EST+5) [email protected] (1.3.60.9.44.84)
doth burble:
try buying a computer.......... I think you've been watching to much of
the boob tube..............it shows!

Awww, Buttercup, that comeback is so cute, and it only took you
three days to come up it. I don' need no steenkin' 'puter. You're just
"so" silly. Now if you just weren't a troll. Better luck next life.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
What do you "know"?
- Granny Weatherwax

t

"19.60.9.44.84"

in reply to "1.3.60.9.44.84" on 30/12/2005 5:12 PM

01/01/2006 1:25 AM

WOW, dumb and stupid You got me beat! Tough time with your calendar again
huh. Confuse easily or just early stages of dementia? I guess life's a real
bitch livin' in rec.woodworking and pulling your own dick huh?



"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 5:12pm (EST+5) [email protected] (1.3.60.9.44.84)
> doth burble:
> try buying a computer.......... I think you've been watching to much of
> the boob tube..............it shows!
>
> Awww, Buttercup, that comeback is so cute, and it only took you
> three days to come up it. I don' need no steenkin' 'puter. You're just
> "so" silly. Now if you just weren't a troll. Better luck next life.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
> What do you "know"?
> - Granny Weatherwax
>

JJ

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 2:51 PM

26/12/2005 7:33 PM

Mon, Dec 26, 2005, 2:51pm (EST+5) [email protected] (1360.9.44.84)
doth burble:
<snip>. See you can always spot the guy who NEVER had Christmas
overseas, <snip>

I had about 10 Christmases oversea, 18 months in Viet Nam (11B40),
went through the outskirts of a couple of revolutions, and a few
terrorist incidents. Even passed thru Kalifornery a few times. But, I
can't see any of that as a reason to be abusive to people, as you are.
I'm not interested in reading any of your off-topic posts. I check the
news for information about the war in Iraq. Just jumped in this thread
because I wanted to see what was said about your post - and your reply
back. None of the combat vets I've ever known, which includes a Medal
Of Honor recipient, would ever behave as you do.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
"know"?.
- Granny Weatherwax

JB

John B

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

27/12/2005 12:38 PM

Frank Arthur wrote:
> Yes you wouldn't want to disturb your devotion to Christ and roast turkey
> just because an American died for you in Iraq?
>
> "Connor Aston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:op.s2du3cv3qkab0d@vigor13...
>
>>So by telling me this . . . what do you hope to achieve?
>>Im interested. Death and destruction with my Turley dinner . . . great?
>
>
>
Now you've got me buggered. How in the hell does an American Soldier,
Dying in Iraq, do it for for an Irishman.
Although I don't believe in creationism, I'm bloody sure that you blokes
are proof that evolution ain't working.

CA

"Connor Aston"

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 8:56 AM

So by telling me this . . . what do you hope to achieve?
Im interested. Death and destruction with my Turley dinner . . . great?

CA

"Connor Aston"

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 5:35 PM

And another thing if we all here . . . and to quote you "self-absorbed man
made of sawdust" why the hell post here in the first place?

CA

"Connor Aston"

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 5:31 PM

No really I think the war in Iraq is a fucking bollocks why did the US go
there in the first place I feel very sorry for the soliders who are
ordered into Iraq in the first place. I only wonder why your messages
appear on a woodworking forum?
We in Northern Ireland here have had enough death and destruction
ourselves. I know. Runined lives and what for NOTHING!!
So I dont disagree with your posting but why here?



On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:51:58 -0000, 1360.9.44.84 <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I guess a self-centered. self-absorbed man made of sawdust, could care
> less
> about our soldiers dying this Christmas because it may upset his Turkey
> dinner. See you can always spot the guy who NEVER had Christmas overseas,
> they're the whiney little ones who only care about themselves!
>
> Hope your a proud turd!
>
>
>
>
>
> "Connor Aston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:op.s2du3cv3qkab0d@vigor13...
>> So by telling me this . . . what do you hope to achieve?
>> Im interested. Death and destruction with my Turley dinner . . . great?
>
>



--
http://www.connoraston.com

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 11:04 AM

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:35:28 +0000 (UTC), "Connor Aston"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>And another thing if we all here . . . and to quote you "self-absorbed man
>made of sawdust" why the hell post here in the first place?

Please don't feed the troll.



+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

KC

"Keith Carlson"

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 6:55 PM

"1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:isTrf.6784$wQ3.1851@trnddc05...
> I guess a self-centered. self-absorbed man made of sawdust, could care
> less about our soldiers dying this Christmas because it may upset his
> Turkey dinner. See you can always spot the guy who NEVER had Christmas
> overseas, they're the whiney little ones who only care about themselves!
>
> Hope your a proud turd!

What's your plan, stud? I would agree that in the US, it's sometimes easy
for us to go on with our comfortable lives and forget (at least for periods
of time) what our soldiers and their families are going through. So,
assuming you have the best of intentions, and your posts are meant to "wake
us up" to the casualties, what's your proposal? If you were to get the
attention of everyone who reads this newsgroup, what would you have them do?
What have you told your senator and congressman that you want them to do?
(Have you contacted them? Are you a U.S. citizen?).

And of course, how many people do you think you're actually going to
persuade by using this newgroup? How many people do you think are going to
listen when you're abrasive and insulting?

You're not accomplishing anything here.

t

"1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]>

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 5:46 PM

Are you just stupid or just blinded by you own self centered ignorance or
perhaps a poor grasb of the english language?........................You my
friend, are the self-absorbed man made of sawdust.

I post here becuase of self absorbed, self centered tiny little people made
of sawdust just like you.......................



"Connor Aston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:op.s2ei2zawqkab0d@vigor13...
> And another thing if we all here . . . and to quote you "self-absorbed man
> made of sawdust" why the hell post here in the first place?

t

"1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]>

in reply to "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> on 26/12/2005 3:30 AM

26/12/2005 8:31 PM

What's your plan? Are you just stupid and run your suck for whatever reasons
that makes you think as if someone would listen to you? Is this more of your
pathetic weak ass advise? As if your a pretend xpert huh? Makes you feel
needed huh? How cute!

Shit Yeah I am abrasive and insulting in fact I'm a prick and proud of
it.... and you are? Let me guess?

Self absorbed, self centered and so fucking stupid! To a T huh?

"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:s0Xrf.677318$xm3.569830@attbi_s21...
> "1360.9.44.84" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:isTrf.6784$wQ3.1851@trnddc05...
>> I guess a self-centered. self-absorbed man made of sawdust, could care
>> less about our soldiers dying this Christmas because it may upset his
>> Turkey dinner. See you can always spot the guy who NEVER had Christmas
>> overseas, they're the whiney little ones who only care about themselves!
>>
>> Hope your a proud turd!
>
> What's your plan, stud? I would agree that in the US, it's sometimes easy
> for us to go on with our comfortable lives and forget (at least for
> periods of time) what our soldiers and their families are going through.
> So, assuming you have the best of intentions, and your posts are meant to
> "wake us up" to the casualties, what's your proposal? If you were to get
> the attention of everyone who reads this newsgroup, what would you have
> them do? What have you told your senator and congressman that you want
> them to do? (Have you contacted them? Are you a U.S. citizen?).
>
> And of course, how many people do you think you're actually going to
> persuade by using this newgroup? How many people do you think are going to
> listen when you're abrasive and insulting?
>
> You're not accomplishing anything here.
>


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