Slowhand wrote:
> Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
> Which one would you get?
> SH
Never used either, but there may be a chance the Delta is still
American-made. The Oliver is made in Taiwan. None of it remains from
the original Oliver 12-incher. Sunhill bought the name (and color)
only. The castings to the original still belong to Eagle Machinery in
Grand Rapids, MI, which is the former Oliver.
Then again, you probably already knew that...
Frank Boettcher wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:05:51 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:10:33 -0700, Slowhand <I'[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
> >>Which one would you get?
> >>SH
> >
> >I'd look for the one made in the USA or Canada. Don't even consider
> >any machined parts made in China if looking for quality.
>
> There is a large jointer made in the USA or Canada?
>
> Frank
http://www.general.ca/pagemach/machines/0general/480_1a.html
http://www.general.ca/pagemach/machines/0general/780a.html
http://www.general.ca/pagemach/machines/0general/880a.html
http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/jointers/medium.htm
http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/jointers/heavy.htm
The 8" General (not General International) will set you back 2700 USD.
I don't know the prices for the other Generals.
As to the Northfield machines...ummm...the machines will make you weep.
The prices will make you cry.
Leon wrote:
> "Frank Boettcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> > There is a large jointer made in the USA or Canada?
> >
> > Frank
>
>
> Absolutely!
>
> http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/jointers/heavy.htm
When I first heard about this company several months ago, I was
thrilled.
Then I saw their price list.
I've been a bitter man ever since.
AAvK wrote:
>
>> Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
>> Which one would you get?
>> SH
>
>
> (Oliver)
>
> Well actually, I'd get something like this:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/ Item number: 240000254276
>
> ...which I already did.
>
I'm a type 11 collector myself.
Still saving my scheckles for the ever elusive and expensive #1
SH
Pat Barber wrote:
> That is going to be a VERY short list..
>
> Northfield (maybe) but none others that I recall.
>
> Most Delta Jointer were made in Brazil for a number
> of years, but I guess the far east got them lately.
>
> I have NO knowledge of the folks in Canada...
>
> Phisherman wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:10:33 -0700, Slowhand <I'[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
>>> Which one would you get?
>>> SH
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd look for the one made in the USA or Canada. Don't even consider
>> any machined parts made in China if looking for quality.
Heck, I didn't even know the US made jointers.
Forgot about Northfield.
I haven't researched the prices yet.
I suspect I'm in for sticker shock.
But as they say, quality is priceless.
Did I say that out loud?
Thanks for the links/advice guys.
SH
Slowhand wrote:
> Pat Barber wrote:
>
>> That is going to be a VERY short list..
>>
>> Northfield (maybe) but none others that I recall.
>>
>> Most Delta Jointer were made in Brazil for a number
>> of years, but I guess the far east got them lately.
>>
>> I have NO knowledge of the folks in Canada...
>>
>> Phisherman wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:10:33 -0700, Slowhand <I'[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
>>>> Which one would you get?
>>>> SH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd look for the one made in the USA or Canada. Don't even consider
>>> any machined parts made in China if looking for quality.
>
> Heck, I didn't even know the US made jointers.
> Forgot about Northfield.
>
> I haven't researched the prices yet.
> I suspect I'm in for sticker shock.
>
> But as they say, quality is priceless.
> Did I say that out loud?
Holy cow!! 10 g's for a jointer!!
Sorry but that is the type of quality I can't afford.
Now I'm back to where I started. Delta or Oliver.
SH
"marc rosen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If it means anything, I bought a DJ-20 in January and I am very pleased
> with what I can do with it. It replaced an old Jet 6 inch.
>
> Marc
>
I've got one of those too... nice tool. I got a L-N No 7 from Tom L-N at my
club's woodworking show in Saratoga in March. I look for excuses to use
it... and removing the jointer and thickness planer marks and snipe is on
the top of the list! It's amazing... no sanding needed. Time to retire my
grandfather's Millers Falls No 22!
John
>I have a couple of old Stanleys 4,5,7 that I added hock blades to. Is a
> Bedrock that much better and why. They sell for big buckson e-bay
> etc.and I dont care about any antique value.
>
I don't know. I think it's merely monatary value for the antique.... "merely". My
Stanleys work great except for one #6 type 8.
--
Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
> Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
> Which one would you get?
> SH
(Oliver)
Well actually, I'd get something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/ Item number: 240000254276
...which I already did.
--
Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
Slowhand <I'[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
> Which one would you get?
> SH
An old Stanley #8?
Patriarch
That is going to be a VERY short list..
Northfield (maybe) but none others that I recall.
Most Delta Jointer were made in Brazil for a number
of years, but I guess the far east got them lately.
I have NO knowledge of the folks in Canada...
Phisherman wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:10:33 -0700, Slowhand <I'[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
>>Which one would you get?
>>SH
>
>
> I'd look for the one made in the USA or Canada. Don't even consider
> any machined parts made in China if looking for quality.
> I'm a type 11 collector myself.
> Still saving my scheckles for the ever elusive and expensive #1
> SH
I am no collector, I buy for useage. Mine is a type 9 and 10 hybrid, it has a type
10 frog receiver but no frog adjuster. I was able to get it for only $50, then Mike_
in_Katy restored it, new japanning and cherry tote and knob, Hock blade and cap
iron. Just for use though, no antique value. Sacrilege?
--
Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
On 17/05/2006 11:57 AM, Slowhand wrote:
> I'm a type 11 collector myself.
Yeah, me too.
> Still saving my scheckles for the ever elusive and expensive #1
Not sure that one's all that good for jointing :-) They're pricey little
buggers. There's a ratty lookin' one on ebay right now for almost
$1,000. Auction 140000257104. There are more that look a bit better, but
still way outta my range.
The DJ-20 remains the once to beat in my opinion.
Powermatic would be my second choice.
There are usually a good many used jointers on Ebay
and other auction sites if you are up to all that
goes with that.
A refurb is certainly not a bad choice in say, a
30 year old Delta 8" jointer. I would stay with
at least a 8", no matter what you end up with.
There are a number of jointers on EBAY as I speak.
5/17/06 3:45pm.
http://cgi.ebay.com/DELTA-DJ-20-8-PRECISION-JOINTER-JOINER-NR_W0QQitemZ6058642574QQcategoryZ42360QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Slowhand wrote:
> Holy cow!! 10 g's for a jointer!!
> Sorry but that is the type of quality I can't afford.
>
> Now I'm back to where I started. Delta or Oliver.
> SH
Personally, I'm rather fond of my Stanley but I guess you want something
that will up your power bill.
"Slowhand" <I'[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
> Which one would you get?
> SH
On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:05:51 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:10:33 -0700, Slowhand <I'[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
>>Which one would you get?
>>SH
>
>I'd look for the one made in the USA or Canada. Don't even consider
>any machined parts made in China if looking for quality.
There is a large jointer made in the USA or Canada?
Frank
On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:10:33 -0700, Slowhand <I'[email protected]> wrote:
>Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
>Which one would you get?
>SH
I'd look for the one made in the USA or Canada. Don't even consider
any machined parts made in China if looking for quality.
"Frank Boettcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> There is a large jointer made in the USA or Canada?
>
> Frank
Absolutely!
http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/jointers/heavy.htm
On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:34:39 -0700, Slowhand <I'[email protected]> wrote:
>Slowhand wrote:
>> Pat Barber wrote:
>>
>>> That is going to be a VERY short list..
>>>
>>> Northfield (maybe) but none others that I recall.
>>>
>>> Most Delta Jointer were made in Brazil for a number
>>> of years, but I guess the far east got them lately.
>>>
>>> I have NO knowledge of the folks in Canada...
>>>
>>> Phisherman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:10:33 -0700, Slowhand <I'[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Got it down to a Delta DJ 30 or an Oliver 12 incher.
>>>>> Which one would you get?
>>>>> SH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd look for the one made in the USA or Canada. Don't even consider
>>>> any machined parts made in China if looking for quality.
>>
>> Heck, I didn't even know the US made jointers.
>> Forgot about Northfield.
>>
>> I haven't researched the prices yet.
>> I suspect I'm in for sticker shock.
>>
>> But as they say, quality is priceless.
>> Did I say that out loud?
>
>Holy cow!! 10 g's for a jointer!!
>Sorry but that is the type of quality I can't afford.
>
>Now I'm back to where I started. Delta or Oliver.
>SH
I don't know anything about the Oliver, but I'm in favor of the
paralleogram table support system used on the DJ-series jointers.
Both for cut accuracy, maintaining a coplaner condition and speed of
adjustment. I own a 15 and have used a 20 and even a 30 but only
once.
If I were you I would just put them side by side on paper, compare
features, weight what is important to you then get the dealers to give
you names of people who actually have and use them. I may be wrong but
I would imagine that not too many on the wreck own either of those big
jointers.
Frank