I am in Syracuse, New York and I am looking for some one inch by five foot
wooden dowels to make hiking sticks for my Scout group. I need about 100 of
them and of course we have no budget. Where can I get them for the least
monetary damage? Are there any wholesalers that would not mind such a small
order?
[email protected] wrote:
> I am in Syracuse, New York and I am looking for some one inch by five
> foot
> wooden dowels to make hiking sticks for my Scout group. I need about 100
Talk to your local tree service guys and see if you can come up with that
many relatively straight cuttings. (Catching them freshly topping a
previously-topped tree would probably produce a lot of fairly thin,
straight cuttings.) De-bark, maybe sand and top coat, and there you go.
I like natural branch walking sticks much better than anything made out of
closet poles, broom handles or the like. Personally, I favor one with a
slight bend on the end too. Not quite a cane, not quite a stick.
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> I am in Syracuse, New York and I am looking for some one inch by five foot
> wooden dowels to make hiking sticks for my Scout group. I need about 100
of
> them and of course we have no budget. Where can I get them for the least
> monetary damage? Are there any wholesalers that would not mind such a
small
> order?
>
>
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Reyd Dorakeen wrote:
> 100? jeeze, up here 4 is a common venture company(next level after scouts,
> 14+) group/drinking buddies group. where can you hike in new york?
Forest land in New York state covers 18.5 million acres, or 62% of the state's
total land area (30.2 million acres). See:
http://www.smartwood.org/reports/pdfs/nydec.pdf
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100? jeeze, up here 4 is a common venture company(next level after scouts,
14+) group/drinking buddies group. where can you hike in new york?
sligthly more on topic, how about actual alder branches/saplins, not sure
about how many, or when, but certainly more natural then dowels, can have em
for shipping cost
in article [email protected], [email protected] at
[email protected] wrote on 2/24/04 6:18 PM:
> I am in Syracuse, New York and I am looking for some one inch by five foot
> wooden dowels to make hiking sticks for my Scout group. I need about 100 of
> them and of course we have no budget. Where can I get them for the least
> monetary damage? Are there any wholesalers that would not mind such a small
> order?
>
>
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> I am in Syracuse, New York and I am looking for some one inch by five foot
> wooden dowels to make hiking sticks for my Scout group. I need about 100 of
> them and of course we have no budget. Where can I get them for the least
> monetary damage? Are there any wholesalers that would not mind such a small
> order?
>
Forget dowels, too expensive and they break easily under hiking
stresses, and mostly they're available in 3' lengths. The 1 inch
diameter will be too small if you use standard birch or pine, and with
your budget hickory will be too pricey.
What we did when we needed about 25 of them was to get some 1-1/4 or 1-
1/2" diameter handrail. Ask you local borg for off-cuts or mis-cuts to
save some money, but it's fairly cheap. Go with a 5' length for the
vertically disenfranchised boys, but have some at 6' or even 6-1/2' for
the adults and taller Scouts. Remember that these can do double duty as
poles for your indoor lashing projects, and it's nice to have some 6 or
7 footers for tripod and gateway building practice.
Good luck and have fun,
Vic
In article <BC68093B.82AD%[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> 100? jeeze, up here 4 is a common venture company(next level after scouts,
> 14+) group/drinking buddies group. where can you hike in new york?
> sligthly more on topic, how about actual alder branches/saplins, not sure
> about how many, or when, but certainly more natural then dowels, can have em
> for shipping cost
Reyd- other than the great and vast canyons of New York City, there are
the Catskill and Adirondak mountains, a reasonable portion of the
Appalachian Trail, many river trails for canoeing, and (in my prejudiced
view) one of the BEST Scout Camps in the east, Onteora Scout
Reservation. There are the flat, sandy trails through Pine Barrens on
Long Island, paved trails through historic districts of the city, Mt
Marcy, Finger Lakes, Delaware River, State and National Forests.
To return to topic- one of the best hiking staves I ever had was a
sassafrass sapling that I collected at the Scout camp. Part of a trail
clearing project, the bark became tea and a braided top-band and the
staff put on many miles over the years until it finally was carried off
by someone who must have needed it more than I.
/vic
Victor Radin responds:
>
>Reyd- other than the great and vast canyons of New York City, there are
>the Catskill and Adirondak mountains
And let's not forget to remind people that the Adirondack Park covers both
private and public lands, totaling over 6 million acres. That's not a typo, but
6,000,000+ acres. Too many people see New York as NYC and environs, maybe
including Westchester, Rockland, Putnam and Orange Counties, with LI tagged on
as an afterthought. What those places are is a great way to clump some 12-13
million of the total state population, leaving most of the rest of the state
less densely populated than, say, rural Virginia.
Charlie Self
In a New Hampshire Jewelry store: "Ears pierced while you wait."
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
On 01 Mar 2004 17:03:56 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
w
>as an afterthought. What those places are is a great way to clump some 12-13
>million of the total state population, leaving most of the rest of the state
>less densely populated than, say, rural Virginia.
You don't have to tell me. I've mountain biked many trails in mid to
upstate NY, and it's really hard to believe it's the same state! <G>
Barry
Barry writes:
>On 01 Mar 2004 17:03:56 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
>w
>>as an afterthought. What those places are is a great way to clump some 12-13
>>million of the total state population, leaving most of the rest of the state
>>less densely populated than, say, rural Virginia.
>
>You don't have to tell me. I've mountain biked many trails in mid to
>upstate NY, and it's really hard to believe it's the same state! <G>
Even the accent is different. I went to school in Albany, loved the surrounding
area, couldn't find work, didn't want city life, so moved a long time ago, but
I still miss the town (or I miss being under 35!).
Charlie Self
In a New Hampshire Jewelry store: "Ears pierced while you wait."
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
I asked that one too . <grin>
Puff
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> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:15:47 -0200, "Puff Griffis" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>=20
> >My Brother in law needed some for his Martial arts school and ended =
up buying broom handles cheaper. He just cut off the threads.=20
> >Puff
>=20
> Why didn't they karate chop the threaded end off? <G>
>=20
> Barry
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:15:47 -0200, "Puff Griffis" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>My Brother in law needed some for his Martial arts school and ended up buying broom handles cheaper. He just cut off the threads.
>Puff
Why didn't they karate chop the threaded end off? <G>
Barry
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 11:24am (EST+5)
[email protected] (B=A0a=A0r=A0r=A0y) asks:
Why didn't they karate chop the threaded end off? <G>
Hehehe That reminds me of the time I was watching a Tie-Quan-Dough
class in Bangkok give a demonstration. The "star" pupil was supposed to
break a board in two using his index finger. He did all the breathing,
grunting, etc., to psych himself up, and rammed the board with his
finger. It went thunk. Board didn't split. And, I mean the guy poked
that board hard, you could tell it really hurt. The instructor made
some fast comment about it being a warm-up blow or some such. I was
standing around the edge and saw what the guy did. He did all the show
again, and then when his finger almost got to the board, he made a fist,
cracked the board in two, then stuck his finger out again. Can't really
blame the guy for that, but laughed like Hell for him being stupid
enough to try it with just his index finger in the first place. Course,
he should checked the board first too. I also noticed that some of the
students were very careful to pick boards that were already cracked
before they punched them. LMAO
JOAT
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JOAT writes:
> Hehehe That reminds me of the time I was watching a Tie-Quan-Dough
>class in Bangkok give a demonstration. The "star" pupil was supposed to
>break a board in two using his index finger. He did all the breathing,
>grunting, etc., to psych himself up, and rammed the board with his
>finger. It went thunk. Board didn't split. And, I mean the guy poked
>that board hard, you could tell it really hurt. The instructor made
>some fast comment about it being a warm-up blow or some such. I was
>standing around the edge and saw what the guy did. He did all the show
>again, and then when his finger almost got to the board, he made a fist,
>cracked the board in two, then stuck his finger out again. Can't really
>blame the guy for that, but laughed like Hell for him being stupid
>enough to try it with just his index finger in the first place. Course,
>he should checked the board first too. I also noticed that some of the
>students were very careful to pick boards that were already cracked
>before they punched them.
Plain ol' fashioned karate in my day. But at one demo, I had an hour to kill,
so ambled in early. Found these guys all sifting through the wood to find nice,
knotty weak looking stuff. It made sense to me, as whacking that lignin hurts
the hands and feet, but it also put the demo right back in a range a dozen guys
in my outfit could do, so I went into Honolulu and drank my way along Hotel
Street for a few hours.
Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.
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Charlie Self wrote:
> Plain ol' fashioned karate in my day. But at one demo, I had an hour to kill,
> so ambled in early. Found these guys all sifting through the wood to find nice,
> knotty weak looking stuff. It made sense to me, as whacking that lignin hurts
> the hands and feet, but it also put the demo right back in a range a dozen guys
> in my outfit could do, so I went into Honolulu and drank my way along Hotel
> Street for a few hours.
I took a style of karate know as Shorinji Kempo years ago. In my more foolish days
I used to do a bit of board breaking for a number of the demos we put on at
various organizations. In selecting boards I wanted sound, knot free, straight
grained boards. When you start stacking multiple pieces of white oak, surfaced to
4/4, you don't want grain, knots or splits to contend with.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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Nova responds:
>
>I took a style of karate know as Shorinji Kempo years ago. In my more
>foolish days
>I used to do a bit of board breaking for a number of the demos we put on at
>various organizations. In selecting boards I wanted sound, knot free,
>straight
>grained boards. When you start stacking multiple pieces of white oak,
>surfaced to
>4/4, you don't want grain, knots or splits to contend with.
Multiples, yeah. But these guys were like us, still cracking 2x softwood in
single layers. Hell, that was a century ago, or so it seems now, and the
Marines were teaching a form of hand-to-hand that involved some judo throws and
a few strategically placed kicks once the guy was tossed. Not nearly as
sophisticated as it has become, though I get some serious giggles going when I
see all the dancing masters kicking guns out of hands from a start 15' away.
Anyone serious about the work would put 3 rounds low, 3 rounds in the middle
and 1 high before the guy's foot got a dozen inches off the ground.
Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.
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Charlie Self wrote:
> Multiples, yeah. But these guys were like us, still cracking 2x softwood in
> single layers. Hell, that was a century ago, or so it seems now, and the
> Marines were teaching a form of hand-to-hand that involved some judo throws and
> a few strategically placed kicks once the guy was tossed. Not nearly as
> sophisticated as it has become, though I get some serious giggles going when I
> see all the dancing masters kicking guns out of hands from a start 15' away.
> Anyone serious about the work would put 3 rounds low, 3 rounds in the middle
> and 1 high before the guy's foot got a dozen inches off the ground.
My younger brother's Sodan in one flavpr, Nidan in another and
brown in some kinda gungfu. He's fast and all, but at 15' Gun Fu
takes Kunf Fu every time.
Dave in Fairfax
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My Brother in law needed some for his Martial arts school and ended up =
buying broom handles cheaper. He just cut off the threads.=20
Puff
<[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> I am in Syracuse, New York and I am looking for some one inch by five =
foot
> wooden dowels to make hiking sticks for my Scout group. I need about =
100 of
> them and of course we have no budget. Where can I get them for the =
least
> monetary damage? Are there any wholesalers that would not mind such a =
small
> order?
>=20
>