I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and got this
message:
"The owners of the domain name leavalley.com are accepting offers from interested
parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain name. You can place your
bid by filling out the form below." Stated price: $1,500
What gives?
Hoyt
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:12 -0500, "GSX" <[email protected]>
scribbled:
>
>>
>> What right does Le*E* Valley have to the name Le*A* Valley?
>>
>>
>
>Has do with trademark and name resemblance.
>
>In an interesting case recently, a 17 year old in Canada named Michael Rowe
>started making web sites. So, he got a domain name called mikerowesoft.com.
>Next thing ya know...Bill Gates and his pack of sharks attacked him claiming
>he was stealing their corporate identity, etc.
>
>Last I heard, they came to an agreement for him to change his domain name
>because it *sounds* like Microsoft.com
Check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382073018&category=2312
Luigi
Note the new email address.
Please adjust your krillfiles (tmAD) accordingly
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
Thanks Marc,
I spotted my spelling error soon after I posted the question. I logged on and ordered
8 items. Thanks for your help.
Hoyt
Marc Hudson wrote:
> If you're looking for the woodworking store, I think you may want:
> www.leevalley.com. Note lee and not lea ... valley.com.
>
> --
>
> --Marc Hudson
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and got
> this
> > message:
> >
> > "The owners of the domain name leavalley.com are accepting offers from
> interested
> > parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain name. You can
> place your
> > bid by filling out the form below." Stated price: $1,500
> >
> > What gives?
> >
> > Hoyt
> >
>
> What right does Le*E* Valley have to the name Le*A* Valley?
>
>
Has do with trademark and name resemblance.
In an interesting case recently, a 17 year old in Canada named Michael Rowe
started making web sites. So, he got a domain name called mikerowesoft.com.
Next thing ya know...Bill Gates and his pack of sharks attacked him claiming
he was stealing their corporate identity, etc.
Last I heard, they came to an agreement for him to change his domain name
because it *sounds* like Microsoft.com
>
>I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and got this
>message:
>
>"The owners of the domain name leavalley.com are accepting offers from
>interested
>parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain name. You can
>place your
>bid by filling out the form below." Stated price: $1,500
>
>What gives?
>
Try (insertyournamehere).com. You will probably get the same message.
Roger Poplin dba [email protected]
Greetings and Salutations...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:03:32 GMT, "TexasFireGuy"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"GSX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:1iySb.2890$CJ1.1283@lakeread01...
>>
>> >
>> > What right does Le*E* Valley have to the name Le*A* Valley?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Has do with trademark and name resemblance.
>>
>> In an interesting case recently, a 17 year old in Canada named Michael
>Rowe
>> started making web sites. So, he got a domain name called
>mikerowesoft.com.
>> Next thing ya know...Bill Gates and his pack of sharks attacked him
>claiming
>> he was stealing their corporate identity, etc.
>>
>> Last I heard, they came to an agreement for him to change his domain name
>> because it *sounds* like Microsoft.com
>>
>>
>If you want to go back even further, take the case of AutoZone as an
>example. They were originally named AutoShack and were forced to change the
>name when RadioShack took legal action. The name, even though not that
>close, was determined to be too close and confusing to consumers.
>
>
and in another example on the path of "how stupid can
companies and lawyers be"...A few years ago, Sun got all het up about
"protecting its trademark" as regards the programming language Java
(which they had "created"). Part of the problem was that Microsoft
had started doing their usual pirate thing of eroding away control
from the originators. In any case, Sun started sending "cease and
desist" letters to folks for using Java in their names. One of the
more AMUSING moments was that they sent a threatening letter to
the owners of "www.javanco.com" (here is a link to the letter:
http://www.bitmover.com/lm/javaletter.html).
The only problem was that a) Javanco is a hardware and
surplus place and b) it has been around for a LONG time...well
before Sun came up with the idea of Java, or the name.
Needless to say, the owner, whose name actually is (If
I remember correctly) Javan, told them, politely, to take a long
walk off a short pier. Alas, I think Javanco may be gone now...
the hardware biz is tough...but the amusement remains. I used
to get parts from them every once in a while, but, alas, my SERIOUS
hardware hacking days are kind of behind me, so have not gotten
anything in a while...
Regards
Dave Mundt
"Herman Family" <[email protected]/without_any_s/> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> They may be in for a small surprise. LeeValley has some rights to claim
the
> name without payment. "Squatting" on names similar to existing
enterprises
> in hopes of inducing payment from them is somewhat frowned upon.
>
But is it illegal? I'm asking because I don't know. If it is illegal, who
enforces the law?
Frank
In news:[email protected],
Herman Family <[email protected]/without_any_s/> typed:
> They may be in for a small surprise. LeeValley has some rights to
> claim the name without payment. "Squatting" on names similar to
> existing enterprises in hopes of inducing payment from them is
> somewhat frowned upon.
>
> Michael
>
> "Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and
>> got this message:
>>
>> "The owners of the domain name leavalley.com are accepting offers
>> from interested parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the
>> domain name. You can place your bid by filling out the form below."
>> Stated price: $1,500
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Hoyt
What right does Le*E* Valley have to the name Le*A* Valley?
**Please remove the nospamme from my return address before replying.**
"GSX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1iySb.2890$CJ1.1283@lakeread01...
>
> >
> > What right does Le*E* Valley have to the name Le*A* Valley?
> >
> >
>
> Has do with trademark and name resemblance.
>
> In an interesting case recently, a 17 year old in Canada named Michael
Rowe
> started making web sites. So, he got a domain name called
mikerowesoft.com.
> Next thing ya know...Bill Gates and his pack of sharks attacked him
claiming
> he was stealing their corporate identity, etc.
>
> Last I heard, they came to an agreement for him to change his domain name
> because it *sounds* like Microsoft.com
>
And MS acknowledged they went too far. However, I realize that these days,
"right" is irrelevant. It's whoever has the better lawyer(s).
Still. LeeValley has no right to LeaValley until proven in court. (unless
settled beforehand).
Here are other "infringing" sites:
www.leevalley.net
www.leevalley.org
www.leevalley-online.co.uk/
www.lowerleavalley.com/
www.leevalleypark.org.uk
www.leevalleygcc.ie
www.leevalleyangling.co.uk
Wow, that's even worse! I guess that's what will happen when a judge doesn't
know the difference between a tire iron and a transistor!
"TexasFireGuy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "GSX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1iySb.2890$CJ1.1283@lakeread01...
> >
> > >
> > > What right does Le*E* Valley have to the name Le*A* Valley?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Has do with trademark and name resemblance.
> >
> > In an interesting case recently, a 17 year old in Canada named Michael
> Rowe
> > started making web sites. So, he got a domain name called
> mikerowesoft.com.
> > Next thing ya know...Bill Gates and his pack of sharks attacked him
> claiming
> > he was stealing their corporate identity, etc.
> >
> > Last I heard, they came to an agreement for him to change his domain
name
> > because it *sounds* like Microsoft.com
> >
> >
> If you want to go back even further, take the case of AutoZone as an
> example. They were originally named AutoShack and were forced to change
the
> name when RadioShack took legal action. The name, even though not that
> close, was determined to be too close and confusing to consumers.
>
>
GSX notes:
>Wow, that's even worse! I guess that's what will happen when a judge doesn't
>know the difference between a tire iron and a transistor!
>> If you want to go back even further, take the case of AutoZone as an
>> example. They were originally named AutoShack and were forced to change
>the
>> name when RadioShack took legal action. The name, even though not that
>> close, was determined to be too close and confusing to consumers.
Uh, well, yeah, but I just saw and heard a kid drive by who can't differentiate
twixt his vehicle and his stereo. Nor can anyone else within half a mile.
Charlie Self
"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is
sure."
Mark Twain
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
"Herman Family" wrote in message
> They may be in for a small surprise. LeeValley has some rights to claim
the
> name without payment. "Squatting" on names similar to existing
enterprises
> in hopes of inducing payment from them is somewhat frowned upon.
You might be playing free with assumed motives. I wouldn't bet on it ... not
with 13,200 +/- hits on legitimate "Lea Valley"'s worldwide. That said, I
have no sympathy whatsoever for the domain name squatters from the frenzy
five years or so back who lost big time betting on the come, and less for
those who paid the extortion and two years later let them go, to be picked
up by anyone at the cut-rate registrars.
Rarely is foolishness and greed subject to such justice.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 1/23/04
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and got this
> message:
>
> "The owners of the domain name leavalley.com are accepting offers from interested
> parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain name. You can place your
> bid by filling out the form below." Stated price: $1,500
>
> What gives?
>
> Hoyt
>
Try http://www.leevalley.com/
Like everything else, the devil's in the details <BSEG>
/vic
In article <[email protected]>,
Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> wrote:
>I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and got this
>message:
>
>"The owners of the domain name leavalley.com are accepting offers from
>interested
>parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain name. You can
>place your
>bid by filling out the form below." Stated price: $1,500
>
>What gives?
>
>Hoyt
>
Try changing that first 'a' to an 'e'
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and got
this
> message:
>
> "The owners of the domain name leavalley.com are accepting offers from
interested
> parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain name. You can
place your
> bid by filling out the form below." Stated price: $1,500
>
> What gives?
Misspelling. Try:
http://www.leevalley.com/
Luigi Zanasi wrote:
"GSX" <[email protected]>
> scribbled:
>>Last I heard, they came to an agreement for him to change his domain name
>>because it *sounds* like Microsoft.com
>
>
> Check this out:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382073018&category=2312
$32,450.58, 119 bidders.
The kid better watch out, next thing you know Gates will be claiming he only
leased the WIPO Book.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens, A.K.A.
Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the suspense.
(Gaz, r.moto)
If you're looking for the woodworking store, I think you may want:
www.leevalley.com. Note lee and not lea ... valley.com.
--
--Marc Hudson
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and got
this
> message:
>
> "The owners of the domain name leavalley.com are accepting offers from
interested
> parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain name. You can
place your
> bid by filling out the form below." Stated price: $1,500
>
> What gives?
>
> Hoyt
>
Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:12 -0500, "GSX" <[email protected]>
> scribbled:
>
>
>>>What right does Le*E* Valley have to the name Le*A* Valley?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Has do with trademark and name resemblance.
>>
>>In an interesting case recently, a 17 year old in Canada named Michael Rowe
>>started making web sites. So, he got a domain name called mikerowesoft.com.
>>Next thing ya know...Bill Gates and his pack of sharks attacked him claiming
>>he was stealing their corporate identity, etc.
>>
>>Last I heard, they came to an agreement for him to change his domain name
>>because it *sounds* like Microsoft.com
>
>
> Check this out:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382073018&category=2312
>
> Luigi
> Note the new email address.
> Please adjust your krillfiles (tmAD) accordingly
> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
Here is some more about mikerowesoft.com:
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39143676,00.htm
--
Mule-Tracks
One for the board and two for the nail
"GSX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1iySb.2890$CJ1.1283@lakeread01...
>
> >
> > What right does Le*E* Valley have to the name Le*A* Valley?
> >
> >
>
> Has do with trademark and name resemblance.
>
> In an interesting case recently, a 17 year old in Canada named Michael
Rowe
> started making web sites. So, he got a domain name called
mikerowesoft.com.
> Next thing ya know...Bill Gates and his pack of sharks attacked him
claiming
> he was stealing their corporate identity, etc.
>
> Last I heard, they came to an agreement for him to change his domain name
> because it *sounds* like Microsoft.com
>
>
If you want to go back even further, take the case of AutoZone as an
example. They were originally named AutoShack and were forced to change the
name when RadioShack took legal action. The name, even though not that
close, was determined to be too close and confusing to consumers.
Now there's a kid who was handed some lemons, and figured out how to make a
giant batch of sweet lemonade! Good for him.
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:31:12 -0500, "GSX" <[email protected]>
> scribbled:
>
> >
> >>
> >> What right does Le*E* Valley have to the name Le*A* Valley?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Has do with trademark and name resemblance.
> >
> >In an interesting case recently, a 17 year old in Canada named Michael
Rowe
> >started making web sites. So, he got a domain name called
mikerowesoft.com.
> >Next thing ya know...Bill Gates and his pack of sharks attacked him
claiming
> >he was stealing their corporate identity, etc.
> >
> >Last I heard, they came to an agreement for him to change his domain name
> >because it *sounds* like Microsoft.com
>
> Check this out:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382073018&category=2312
>
> Luigi
> Note the new email address.
> Please adjust your krillfiles (tmAD) accordingly
> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
It's not illegal until someone unleashes a pack of lawyers on whoever
owns the domain name. The company/person with the most money wins !
but hey, I'd but that for a dollar, maybe work out a deal with leevalley
for one o' those new shoulder planes...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:12:17 +0000, Frank
Ketchum wrote:
>
> "Herman Family" <[email protected]/without_any_s/> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> They may be in for a small surprise. LeeValley has some rights to claim
> the
>> name without payment. "Squatting" on names similar to existing
> enterprises
>> in hopes of inducing payment from them is somewhat frowned upon.
>>
>
> But is it illegal? I'm asking because I don't know. If it is illegal, who
> enforces the law?
>
> Frank
"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and got
this
> message:
>
>
> Hoyt
>
Try www.leevalley.com
They may be in for a small surprise. LeeValley has some rights to claim the
name without payment. "Squatting" on names similar to existing enterprises
in hopes of inducing payment from them is somewhat frowned upon.
Michael
"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just tried to log on to www.leavalley.com to order a few items and got
this
> message:
>
> "The owners of the domain name leavalley.com are accepting offers from
interested
> parties willing to obtain ownership rights over the domain name. You can
place your
> bid by filling out the form below." Stated price: $1,500
>
> What gives?
>
> Hoyt
>