bB

29/09/2003 3:43 AM

Neat Router Table Idea

Very Rube Golberg like:

http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/makeover/166/id29.htm


This topic has 36 replies

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arizonabigguy

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 4:56 PM



Bruce wrote:

> Very Rube Golberg like:
>
> http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/makeover/166/id29.htm
>

You forgot the retracting, overhead canopy for inclimate weather.

SB

Scott Brownell

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 5:19 PM

Joe wrote:
>
> Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post when I
> opened the www site below.
>
> "Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Very Rube Golberg like:
> >
> > http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/makeover/166/id29.htm
> >

ZoneAlarm never let it into mine to even be checked by Norton.

Scott
--
An unkind remark is like a killing frost. No matter how much it warms
up later, the damage remains.

bB

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 4:20 AM

In rec.woodworking
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post when I
>opened the www site below.

Well, I'm running the latest McAfee and it detected nothing of the sort.

bB

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 4:21 AM

In rec.woodworking
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post when I
>opened the www site below.

OK, I opened it with IE and it is acting weird. I normally use Mozilla. I
agree, don't visit this sight with IE.

tT

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 4:21 AM

29/09/2003 4:30 AM

knock it off
Someday, it'll all be over....

bB

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 4:33 AM

In rec.woodworking
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Never say your router table. I did get a pop up ad, and an offer to install
>some time/date software. You really should get a real web page if you are
>going to send people to it. This one is a farce and makes you look like an
>ass.

Ed,

It isn't my page, just saw it while surfing. I am sorry that it was full
of spam and popups. I use Mozilla and consequently have forgotten about
how awful that stuff can be. I recommend you use it to and enable pop-up
protection.

www.mozilla.org

It will install itself, import all your bookmarks and you'll wonder why you
ever used Internet Explorer. You will also want to DL the flash and java
plugins for it.

Bruce

bB

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 3:12 AM

In rec.woodworking
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I wouldn't trust MacAfee. I had trouble with it in the past, that's why I
>went to Norton/Symantec.

Well, I'm cheap. My multi-billion Fortune 500 company trusts it with our
network and licenses it free for every employee for home use.

bB

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 3:13 AM

In rec.woodworking
Rico <[email protected]> wrote:

>I used to run McAfee too. You might ask them why it doesn't
>stop web pages from intalling software on your machine
>without your knowledge. It's just some slimy ad spyware if
>you're lucky.

I've answered this once but I'll point out that I use MOZILLA for a web
browser which is why it didn't give me any trouble, just like the guy
bragging about running Linux.

bB

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 3:15 AM

In rec.woodworking
Rico <[email protected]> wrote:

>Then it sounds Zone Alarm stops the nasty little spyware
>program from using mshta.exe, while an up to date Norton AV
>stops it from being installed in the first place.

Of course Zone Alarm has a known bug where it begins running at a higher
priority than it should and slows your system to a crawl till you reboot.

tT

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 30/09/2003 3:15 AM

30/09/2003 3:52 AM

Hey, it stopped you! Tom.
Bruise wrote:>Of course Zone Alarm has a
known bug where it begins running at a higher
>priority than it should and slows your system to a crawl till you reboot.


Someday, it'll all be over....

bB

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 30/09/2003 3:15 AM

30/09/2003 3:57 AM

In rec.woodworking
[email protected] (Tom) wrote:

>Hey, it stopped you! Tom.

So would a sledgehammer. Do you advocate that?

tT

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 30/09/2003 3:57 AM

30/09/2003 6:16 AM

this thread is foolish, let's kill it.
Someday, it'll all be over....

bB

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 3:54 AM

In rec.woodworking
"2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote:

>News to me.

It isn't news to zone alarm. The reason I know about this is because I
helped a friend figure out what was wrong with her computer and this is a
documented bug. I'm not sayint it effects all system, not even sure which
ones it does effect. If you like it, rock on. As I've said, I prefer one
piece of software rather than adding a program like that to do the work the
original program should be doing.

TW

Traves W. Coppock

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 3:13 AM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 04:14:34 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:

>
>"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Very Rube Golberg like:
>>
>> http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/makeover/166/id29.htm
>>
>
>Never say your router table. I did get a pop up ad, and an offer to install
>some time/date software. You really should get a real web page if you are
>going to send people to it. This one is a farce and makes you look like an
>ass.
>Ed
>

hey,,wow take a breath!

it wasn't his site, he was just sharing info about something he found
on the web
sides, that's fortune city for you. . . probly not the page owners
fault at all

Traves

Jj

"Joe"

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 2:57 PM

I wouldn't trust MacAfee. I had trouble with it in the past, that's why I
went to Norton/Symantec.

"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 03:50:49 GMT, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post
when I
> >opened the www site below.
>
>
> Zone Alarm brought up all kinds of alerts as well.
>
> Barry
>

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 9:29 PM

Scott Brownell wrote:

> ZoneAlarm never let it into mine to even be checked by Norton.

Yeah, I have no idea what these other folks are complaining about... <g>

-- Mark

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 1:46 PM


"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message > Ed,
>
> It isn't my page, just saw it while surfing. I am sorry that it was full
> of spam and popups. I use Mozilla and consequently have forgotten about
> how awful that stuff can be. I recommend you use it to and enable pop-up
> protection.

My apology to you. Looks like someone else is the ass.
Ed

CM

Chris Merrill

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 3:48 AM

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> Never say your router table. I did get a pop up ad, and an offer to install
> some time/date software. You really should get a real web page if you are
> going to send people to it. This one is a farce and makes you look like an
> ass.

People are free to put whatever they want on their websites.

The real asses (not you) is the fools who run software that is so insecure
that it requires a new security patch every two weeks...and then whines when
something insecure happens. Duh.

The original poster should get a decent browser!

--
************************************
Chris Merrill
[email protected]
(remove the ZZZ to contact me)
************************************

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 4:14 AM


"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Very Rube Golberg like:
>
> http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/makeover/166/id29.htm
>

Never say your router table. I did get a pop up ad, and an offer to install
some time/date software. You really should get a real web page if you are
going to send people to it. This one is a farce and makes you look like an
ass.
Ed

Rw

Rico

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 10:31 AM

Bruce wrote:
> In rec.woodworking
> "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post when I
> >opened the www site below.
>
> Well, I'm running the latest McAfee and it detected nothing of the sort.
>
>
I used to run McAfee too. You might ask them why it doesn't
stop web pages from intalling software on your machine
without your knowledge. It's just some slimy ad spyware if
you're lucky.

Norton stopped it.


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Rw

Rico

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 10:34 AM

Silvan wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>
> > Very Rube Golberg like:
> >
> > http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/makeover/166/id29.htm
>
> Hell yeah, why didn't I think of that? I have a spare screw jack around
> here somewhere.
>
>

I saw the idea in a book of ideas for using your router
about a year ago. The difference is that guy did it and I
didn't.


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Rw

Rico

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 2:11 PM

Secret Squirrel <Secret> wrote:
> Probably becuase thats not an anti-virus function. It's a security
> function. A decent software based firewall would stop this as would a
> correctly configured web-browser.
>
>

Norton anti-virus did stop it.


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Rw

Rico

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 5:55 PM

2manytoyz wrote:
> ZoneAlarm detected the mshta.exe program trying to access the web
> immediately after opening that link.
>

Then it sounds Zone Alarm stops the nasty little spyware
program from using mshta.exe, while an up to date Norton AV
stops it from being installed in the first place.



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CM

Chris Merrill

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 3:28 AM

Bruce wrote:
> OK, I opened it with IE and it is acting weird. I normally use Mozilla. I
> agree, don't visit this sight with IE.

IMO...Don't visit _any_ site with IE ;)

--
************************************
Chris Merrill
[email protected]
(remove the ZZZ to contact me)
************************************

SS

Secret Squirrel

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 1:55 PM

Rico <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Bruce wrote:
>> In rec.woodworking
>> "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script
>> >post when I opened the www site below.
>>
>> Well, I'm running the latest McAfee and it detected nothing of the
>> sort.
>>
>>
> I used to run McAfee too. You might ask them why it doesn't
> stop web pages from intalling software on your machine
> without your knowledge. It's just some slimy ad spyware if
> you're lucky.
>
> Norton stopped it.
>
>
> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----

Probably becuase thats not an anti-virus function. It's a security
function. A decent software based firewall would stop this as would a
correctly configured web-browser.

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 12:22 AM

2manytoyz wrote:
> ZoneAlarm detected the mshta.exe program trying to access the web
> immediately after opening that link.

Sorry if this is OT, but Googling, I discovered this is apparently a type of
attack I haven't heard of before. Here's a July 29, 03 link.

http://www.nsclean.com/psc-htas.html

I'm testing a web-services app and the client uses mshta.exe. I'm going to
reboot before going back to "normal" web surfing.

-- Mark

ms

"2manytoyz"

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 3:37 AM

News to me. I have it on 3 computers at home, another at work. One machine
stays on 24/7. The others are on 7-10 hours a day. Two of the machines are
only 400 MHz Celeron Emachines. Haven't noticed any sort of reduction of
speed after hours of use. Surfin the web on my cable modem, burning DVDs,
ripping CDs, downloading music, running Photoshop 7... you know, the usual
stuff.

I'll keep it, works great for me.

Robert

"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.woodworking
> Rico <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Then it sounds Zone Alarm stops the nasty little spyware
> >program from using mshta.exe, while an up to date Norton AV
> >stops it from being installed in the first place.
>
> Of course Zone Alarm has a known bug where it begins running at a higher
> priority than it should and slows your system to a crawl till you reboot.
>
>

ms

"2manytoyz"

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 12:05 AM

ZoneAlarm detected the mshta.exe program trying to access the web
immediately after opening that link.


"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.woodworking
> "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post
when I
> >opened the www site below.
>
> Well, I'm running the latest McAfee and it detected nothing of the sort.
>
>

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 3:57 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Secret
Squirrel <Secret> says...
> >> "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script
> >> >post when I opened the www site below.
> >>
> Probably becuase thats not an anti-virus function. It's a security
> function. A decent software based firewall would stop this as would a
> correctly configured web-browser.
>
I have a website on Fortune City. When the problems were pointed out to
me I contacted Fortune City. They said, yes, some of their advertisers
did use spyware. It only works, according to them, if you run with
Active-X enabled.

When I asked if they'd object if I put a warning to this effect on my web
page, they said it was fine with them. So I did.

So disable Active-X or set it to ask you for an OK and you'll be free of
spyware from any site - at least the kind that uses Active-X.

To see the warning go (with Active-X disabled) to:

http://members.fortunecity.com/lgb1/

--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 8:01 PM

Jack Forbes wrote:

> Mine did also.
>
> It tried to install a program and some other exe. My security
> stopped it. would also say be careful.

I can't resist pointing out that it was just another ordinary web page to
me, a Linux user. Whatever stuff it was trying to do didn't affect me.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
Confirmed post number: 18049 Approximate word count: 541470
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

JF

Jack Forbes

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 11:52 AM

Mine did also.

It tried to install a program and some other exe. My security
stopped it. would also say be careful.

Jack

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 04:20:33 GMT, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:

>In rec.woodworking
>"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post when I
>>opened the www site below.
>
>Well, I'm running the latest McAfee and it detected nothing of the sort.

My e-mail address is real.
Feel free to use it.
I know how to delete spam.

ms

"2manytoyz"

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

30/09/2003 12:31 AM

Hackers are crafty little snots with no life. It never ceases to amaze how
many ways they can screw up my computers. I'm running Pest Patrol, NAV, and
ZoneAlarm (freeware). Fortunately, ZA caught it. It notifies me each time
a program tries to access the web. Worth installing if you don't have a
personal firewall yet. And, FWIW, this is on topic as the WW link caused
this discussion!

Robert

"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2manytoyz wrote:
> > ZoneAlarm detected the mshta.exe program trying to access the web
> > immediately after opening that link.
>
> Sorry if this is OT, but Googling, I discovered this is apparently a type
of
> attack I haven't heard of before. Here's a July 29, 03 link.
>
> http://www.nsclean.com/psc-htas.html
>
> I'm testing a web-services app and the client uses mshta.exe. I'm going
to
> reboot before going back to "normal" web surfing.
>
> -- Mark
>
>
>

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 10:32 AM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 03:50:49 GMT, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post when I
>opened the www site below.


Zone Alarm brought up all kinds of alerts as well.

Barry

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 1:22 AM

Bruce wrote:

> Very Rube Golberg like:
>
> http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/makeover/166/id29.htm

Hell yeah, why didn't I think of that? I have a spare screw jack around
here somewhere.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
Confirmed post number: 18029 Approximate word count: 540870
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Jj

"Joe"

in reply to [email protected] (Bruce) on 29/09/2003 3:43 AM

29/09/2003 3:50 AM

Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post when I
opened the www site below.


"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Very Rube Golberg like:
>
> http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/makeover/166/id29.htm
>

jJ

in reply to "Joe" on 29/09/2003 3:50 AM

29/09/2003 5:25 AM

>Beware of this post!!!!! My Norton detected a malicious script post when I
opened the www site below.<

Same here, Norton did not like scripts.



Rob Mills ~~~ Tulsa, Ok






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