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"The Davenports"

28/02/2004 7:04 PM

Planer cutting tapered boards

Hey, Gang...

...I've got a Delta 22-580 2-speed planer and the oak that I'm trying to
mill to size is coming out patered from side to side...alot! .030" in a 5
inch wide part. But when I run a short piece of the same wood (8"wide) thru
it, it's only .010" tapered. Blades are have been changed recently...just
before Xmas and haven't run much thru it since then, but I did reseat them,
just in case.

Any ideas? Is there some way to adjust the elevator screws for the head?

Oh, and I did try a google search and either I'm too dumb to figure out the
right search words or there isn't anything about this out there.

Thanks

Mike


This topic has 13 replies

sS

[email protected] (Scott Post)

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:04 PM

29/02/2004 12:41 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
The Davenports <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hey, Gang...
>
>...I've got a Delta 22-580 2-speed planer and the oak that I'm trying to
>mill to size is coming out patered from side to side...alot! .030" in a 5
>inch wide part.

A coworker of mine had the same problem with that planer. It turned out
that the sheet metal bed had a radius bent in it that was interfering
with the edge of the casting, causing the bed to be lifted on one side.
I don't remember how he resolved it - either by bending it a bit, filing
a chamfer, or getting a replacement from Delta.

--
Scott Post [email protected] http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/

TD

"The Davenports"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:04 PM

28/02/2004 7:47 PM

Yes, tapered from side to side.

I thought of that...the wood is as flat as I can check it coming off the
jointer.

The process was joint a face, then an edge, rip just to clean the OTHER edge
up, resaw to 5/8" from about 1"...kinda variable on the starting thinkness,
but all the pieces were about the same...within 1/16"

And yes, I did check the flatness of the jointed face after resaw...well,
after I found them to come out tapered and they are still as flat as I can
measure.

Mike

> By tapered do you mean that one side of the board comes out thinner than
the
> other side?
>
> If so, is your wood perfectly flat? If the wood is not flat and you have
> the cupped side down the piece can rock and cause one side to be planed
more
> than the other.

> > Hey, Gang...
> >
> > ...I've got a Delta 22-580 2-speed planer and the oak that I'm trying to
> > mill to size is coming out patered from side to side...alot! .030" in a
5
> > inch wide part. But when I run a short piece of the same wood (8"wide)
> thru
> > it, it's only .010" tapered. Blades are have been changed
recently...just
> > before Xmas and haven't run much thru it since then, but I did reseat
> them,
> > just in case.
> >
> > Any ideas? Is there some way to adjust the elevator screws for the
head?
> >
> > Oh, and I did try a google search and either I'm too dumb to figure out
> the
> > right search words or there isn't anything about this out there.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
>
>

TD

"The Davenports"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:47 PM

28/02/2004 9:08 PM

> Sounds like the planer is out of alignment. It can happen. It happened
to me
> when I had a brain spasm and tried to lower the cutter head without
loosening
> the lock first.
>
> One of the woodworking mags had an article about making the adjustment
> recently. I think it was either PW or FWW. Basically, you take off the
bottom
> cover of the planer and remove one of the chain sprockets. Then you turn
one
> screw only to adjust one side of the cutter head up or down. Use a block
of
> wood as a gauge block to be sure the cutter head is parallel to the bed of
the
> planer. Then re-attach the sprocket and the cover.
>
> It would pay to track down the article before you did the adjustment.
There
> were some good tips in there. Hopefully someone will remember where it
is.
> Right now I don't, and I can't seem to find it.
>
> David
>
> remove the key to email me.

Thanks...I'll look into it. That's kinda what I thought it was.

Mike

TD

"The Davenports"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:47 PM

29/02/2004 1:25 PM

Yep..not cheap at anywhere from $32. to $40.usd for a set. But they are
double edge, which helps.

I also sometimes cheat a little and hone the faces if they are "just a
little dull". Not this time, tho...they are fresh...I will try flipping them
to see if maybe one edge was ground poorly.

Thanks
Mike

> Ah, old style thinking. Replace means from new with that one, eh?
>
> > George wrote:
> > > First recheck the exposure on your knives, using something besides
> > > the gage you used to set them. Could be them, and they're a hell of
> > > a lot easier to adjust.
> >
> > His planer has not setting gauge. They are indexed on pins and cannot be
> > adjusted. --
> > Ed

jJ

[email protected] (J Pagona aka Y.B.)

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:47 PM

29/02/2004 2:11 AM

Sounds like the planer is out of alignment. It can happen. It happened to me
when I had a brain spasm and tried to lower the cutter head without loosening
the lock first.

One of the woodworking mags had an article about making the adjustment
recently. I think it was either PW or FWW. Basically, you take off the bottom
cover of the planer and remove one of the chain sprockets. Then you turn one
screw only to adjust one side of the cutter head up or down. Use a block of
wood as a gauge block to be sure the cutter head is parallel to the bed of the
planer. Then re-attach the sprocket and the cover.

It would pay to track down the article before you did the adjustment. There
were some good tips in there. Hopefully someone will remember where it is.
Right now I don't, and I can't seem to find it.

David

remove the key to email me.

Gs

"George"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:47 PM

29/02/2004 7:38 AM

First recheck the exposure on your knives, using something besides the gage
you used to set them. Could be them, and they're a hell of a lot easier to
adjust.

"The Davenports" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Sounds like the planer is out of alignment. It can happen.
> >
> > One of the woodworking mags had an article about making the adjustment
> > recently. I think it was either PW or FWW.

> >
> > It would pay to track down the article before you did the adjustment.

>
> Thanks...I'll look into it. That's kinda what I thought it was.
>
> Mike
>
>

Gs

"George"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:47 PM

29/02/2004 1:14 PM

Ah, old style thinking. Replace means from new with that one, eh?

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George wrote:
> > First recheck the exposure on your knives, using something besides
> > the gage you used to set them. Could be them, and they're a hell of
> > a lot easier to adjust.
>
> His planer has not setting gauge. They are indexed on pins and cannot be
> adjusted. --
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:47 PM

29/02/2004 1:01 PM

George wrote:
> First recheck the exposure on your knives, using something besides
> the gage you used to set them. Could be them, and they're a hell of
> a lot easier to adjust.

His planer has not setting gauge. They are indexed on pins and cannot be
adjusted. --
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:47 PM

29/02/2004 8:22 PM



"The Davenports" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yep..not cheap at anywhere from $32. to $40.usd for a set. But they are
> double edge, which helps.

Lowes has the best price on them, about $29.
Ed

TD

"The Davenports"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:04 PM

29/02/2004 6:21 PM

> Check your user manual for instructions on leveling the table or the
> cutter head on the planner
>
> Want to say that in the last year or so there was an article on how to
> do this, but right now I am drawing a blank on what magazine or issue
>
> If no one else chimes in with that information, repost asking me to
> look it up and I will take time to check my stack of magazines
>
> John

Yep...already checked the book...absolutely nothing about taper and/or
removing said taper.

If you can find the info, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

Mike

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:04 PM

29/02/2004 1:27 AM

By tapered do you mean that one side of the board comes out thinner than the
other side?

If so, is your wood perfectly flat? If the wood is not flat and you have
the cupped side down the piece can rock and cause one side to be planed more
than the other.

"The Davenports" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey, Gang...
>
> ...I've got a Delta 22-580 2-speed planer and the oak that I'm trying to
> mill to size is coming out patered from side to side...alot! .030" in a 5
> inch wide part. But when I run a short piece of the same wood (8"wide)
thru
> it, it's only .010" tapered. Blades are have been changed recently...just
> before Xmas and haven't run much thru it since then, but I did reseat
them,
> just in case.
>
> Any ideas? Is there some way to adjust the elevator screws for the head?
>
> Oh, and I did try a google search and either I'm too dumb to figure out
the
> right search words or there isn't anything about this out there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
>

JC

John Crea

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:04 PM

29/02/2004 1:35 PM

Check your user manual for instructions on leveling the table or the
cutter head on the planner

Want to say that in the last year or so there was an article on how to
do this, but right now I am drawing a blank on what magazine or issue

If no one else chimes in with that information, repost asking me to
look it up and I will take time to check my stack of magazines

John

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:47:27 -0600, "The Davenports"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Yes, tapered from side to side.
>
>I thought of that...the wood is as flat as I can check it coming off the
>jointer.
>
>The process was joint a face, then an edge, rip just to clean the OTHER edge
>up, resaw to 5/8" from about 1"...kinda variable on the starting thinkness,
>but all the pieces were about the same...within 1/16"
>
>And yes, I did check the flatness of the jointed face after resaw...well,
>after I found them to come out tapered and they are still as flat as I can
>measure.
>
>Mike
>
>> By tapered do you mean that one side of the board comes out thinner than
>the
>> other side?
>>
>> If so, is your wood perfectly flat? If the wood is not flat and you have
>> the cupped side down the piece can rock and cause one side to be planed
>more
>> than the other.
>
>> > Hey, Gang...
>> >
>> > ...I've got a Delta 22-580 2-speed planer and the oak that I'm trying to
>> > mill to size is coming out patered from side to side...alot! .030" in a
>5
>> > inch wide part. But when I run a short piece of the same wood (8"wide)
>> thru
>> > it, it's only .010" tapered. Blades are have been changed
>recently...just
>> > before Xmas and haven't run much thru it since then, but I did reseat
>> them,
>> > just in case.
>> >
>> > Any ideas? Is there some way to adjust the elevator screws for the
>head?
>> >
>> > Oh, and I did try a google search and either I'm too dumb to figure out
>> the
>> > right search words or there isn't anything about this out there.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to "The Davenports" on 28/02/2004 7:04 PM

28/02/2004 11:04 PM

Unless it "fell off the back of a truck" why don't you just call Delta?

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"The Davenports" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey, Gang...
>
> ...I've got a Delta 22-580 2-speed planer and the oak that I'm trying to
> mill to size is coming out patered from side to side...alot! .030" in a 5
> inch wide part. But when I run a short piece of the same wood (8"wide)
thru
> it, it's only .010" tapered. Blades are have been changed recently...just
> before Xmas and haven't run much thru it since then, but I did reseat
them,
> just in case.
>
> Any ideas? Is there some way to adjust the elevator screws for the head?
>
> Oh, and I did try a google search and either I'm too dumb to figure out
the
> right search words or there isn't anything about this out there.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
>


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