bn

"buck"

27/08/2004 1:57 PM

Can you buy a 7/8" Core Box Bit with a 1/4" Shank??

I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute. I don't know
if you can get this bit in a 1/4 inch shank. I have seen them in 1/2 inch
shank and they are about $35. Does anyone know if this bit exists in 1/4
inch shank. Seeing that I really never use a router, I want to try and buy
a less expensive router but all of them are only for 1/4 inch shanks. I
would hate to have to buy a lot more expensive router just to use one needed
bit.

-Thanks for any help


This topic has 14 replies

pp

philski

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

27/08/2004 8:07 PM

buck wrote:

> Patriarch..... Thanks! I will go to Rockler and buy the bit there.... You
> saved me some $$. And yes this is for a "musical instrument flute"
>
>
> "patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"buck" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>
>>>Ed...... I will take your advice and buy a better router..... I guess
>>>you're right about safety..... not worth getting hurt over.
>>>-thanx
>>>
>>>"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>"buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>>I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute.
>>
>>I'm going to assume that this is a flute, as in a rounded bottom groove in
>>a furniture rail or stile, and not a musical instrument....;-)
>>
>>The bad news is that you will likely want to use a plunge router, with a
>>good edge guide. This adds to your investment.
>>
>>The good news is that, if you follow Ed's excellent advice, you will be
>>able to make this cut safely, and repeatedly, with confidence.
>>
>>You should spend some quality time with Pat Warner's website,
>>www.patwarner.com, before you warm up your credit card. If there is
>>something Pat doesn't know about routers, it likely isn't terribly
>>necessary to know.
>>
>>More good news: For someone who doesn't expect to use this bit a whole
>>lot, you can easily use the Rockler version of the bit you specified, in
>>1/2" shank, for $21.
>>
>>Patriarch
>
>
>
I might suggest that you take light cuts with the 7/8ths bit. I will be
easier all the way around. In other words, take a few passes to get to
your final depth.

Philski

Philski

bn

"buck"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

27/08/2004 11:21 PM

Ed... thanks for some thoughts on this.... appreciate it.


"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Pat... Many of the flutes are made by cutting the block of wood
> lengthwise
> > and then you channel out the bore on each piece with a router and then
> glue
> > the two pieces together resulting in a round 7/8 inch bore......
tadaaaaa!
>
> Considering how you are going to use the bit, I have a suggestion. Buy an
> economical router and a small router table.. With a table, instead of
> trying to guide the router over the wood, you run the wood over top of the
> bit. Make several passes to get the final dimension. With a table, you
are
> running the wood against a fence and it can be held in place better.
>
> Check out
>
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@1511453943.109366
3972@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccgeadcmghjljilcehgcemgdffmdfko.0&vertical=TOOL&pid=009
26610000
>
> You can spend $50 or you can spend $500. Or you can make one from a piece
> of plywood.
>
>

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

28/08/2004 2:31 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
buck <[email protected]> wrote:
>Patriarch..... Thanks! I will go to Rockler and buy the bit there.... You
>saved me some $$. And yes this is for a "musical instrument flute"

Well, If you've got it flaut it! <grin>

bn

"buck"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

28/08/2004 11:51 AM

CW- thanks for info...... yeah, I have searched all over and all I find is
1/2" shank for the 7/8 bit..... strange.


"CW" <no adddress@spam free.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Amana has 3/4 and 1 inch, no 7/8 in 1/4 shank. Oddly enough, their 7/8 has
> a 1/2 inch shank. 1/4 inch shank bits of this size are perfectly safe,
just
> not as rigid as 1/2. Keep the depth of cut reasonable.
>
> "buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute. I don't
know
> > if you can get this bit in a 1/4 inch shank. I have seen them in 1/2
inch
> > shank and they are about $35. Does anyone know if this bit exists in
1/4
> > inch shank. Seeing that I really never use a router, I want to try and
> buy
> > a less expensive router but all of them are only for 1/4 inch shanks. I
> > would hate to have to buy a lot more expensive router just to use one
> needed
> > bit.
> >
> > -Thanks for any help
> >
> >
>
>

bn

"buck"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

27/08/2004 3:05 PM

Ed...... I will take your advice and buy a better router..... I guess you're
right about safety..... not worth getting hurt over.
-thanx

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute. I don't
know
> > if you can get this bit in a 1/4 inch shank. I have seen them in 1/2
inch
> > shank and they are about $35. Does anyone know if this bit exists in
1/4
> > inch shank. Seeing that I really never use a router, I want to try and
> buy
> > a less expensive router but all of them are only for 1/4 inch shanks. I
> > would hate to have to buy a lot more expensive router just to use one
> needed
> > bit.
>
> It is unsafe to use larger diameter bits in a small shank router. Spend
the
> few extra bucks and get a half decent router and never have to worry about
> finding special bits. You can find them for less than $100.
>
> The larger shank has a few advantages. It holds better as there is more
> surface area to grab, it will be sturdier and flex less. IMO, a bit that
> size is downright dangerous in a small shank. You'd never see me spin
one.
>
>

Ss

"Someone"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

29/08/2004 1:49 PM

Here's another source:

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/bt_core.html

Up to 3/4" with 1/4" shank; up to 2" with 1/2" shank.



"buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> CW- thanks for info...... yeah, I have searched all over and all I find
is
> 1/2" shank for the 7/8 bit..... strange.
>
>
> "CW" <no adddress@spam free.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Amana has 3/4 and 1 inch, no 7/8 in 1/4 shank. Oddly enough, their 7/8
has
> > a 1/2 inch shank. 1/4 inch shank bits of this size are perfectly safe,
> just
> > not as rigid as 1/2. Keep the depth of cut reasonable.
> >
> > "buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute. I don't
> know
> > > if you can get this bit in a 1/4 inch shank. I have seen them in 1/2
> inch
> > > shank and they are about $35. Does anyone know if this bit exists in
> 1/4
> > > inch shank. Seeing that I really never use a router, I want to try
and
> > buy
> > > a less expensive router but all of them are only for 1/4 inch shanks.
I
> > > would hate to have to buy a lot more expensive router just to use one
> > needed
> > > bit.
> > >
> > > -Thanks for any help
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

bn

"buck"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

27/08/2004 6:50 PM

Patriarch..... Thanks! I will go to Rockler and buy the bit there.... You
saved me some $$. And yes this is for a "musical instrument flute"


"patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "buck" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Ed...... I will take your advice and buy a better router..... I guess
> > you're right about safety..... not worth getting hurt over.
> > -thanx
> >
> > "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute.
>
> I'm going to assume that this is a flute, as in a rounded bottom groove in
> a furniture rail or stile, and not a musical instrument....;-)
>
> The bad news is that you will likely want to use a plunge router, with a
> good edge guide. This adds to your investment.
>
> The good news is that, if you follow Ed's excellent advice, you will be
> able to make this cut safely, and repeatedly, with confidence.
>
> You should spend some quality time with Pat Warner's website,
> www.patwarner.com, before you warm up your credit card. If there is
> something Pat doesn't know about routers, it likely isn't terribly
> necessary to know.
>
> More good news: For someone who doesn't expect to use this bit a whole
> lot, you can easily use the Rockler version of the bit you specified, in
> 1/2" shank, for $21.
>
> Patriarch

bn

"buck"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

29/08/2004 11:54 AM

..... the 7/8 is still 1/2 shank and not 1/4 shank but real good prices....
thanks for help


"Someone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here's another source:
>
>
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/bt_cor
e.html
>
> Up to 3/4" with 1/4" shank; up to 2" with 1/2" shank.
>
>
>
> "buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > CW- thanks for info...... yeah, I have searched all over and all I find
> is
> > 1/2" shank for the 7/8 bit..... strange.
> >
> >
> > "CW" <no adddress@spam free.com> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Amana has 3/4 and 1 inch, no 7/8 in 1/4 shank. Oddly enough, their 7/8
> has
> > > a 1/2 inch shank. 1/4 inch shank bits of this size are perfectly
safe,
> > just
> > > not as rigid as 1/2. Keep the depth of cut reasonable.
> > >
> > > "buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute. I
don't
> > know
> > > > if you can get this bit in a 1/4 inch shank. I have seen them in
1/2
> > inch
> > > > shank and they are about $35. Does anyone know if this bit exists
in
> > 1/4
> > > > inch shank. Seeing that I really never use a router, I want to try
> and
> > > buy
> > > > a less expensive router but all of them are only for 1/4 inch
shanks.
> I
> > > > would hate to have to buy a lot more expensive router just to use
one
> > > needed
> > > > bit.
> > > >
> > > > -Thanks for any help
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

27/08/2004 10:09 PM

"buck" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Ed...... I will take your advice and buy a better router..... I guess
> you're right about safety..... not worth getting hurt over.
> -thanx
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute.

I'm going to assume that this is a flute, as in a rounded bottom groove in
a furniture rail or stile, and not a musical instrument....;-)

The bad news is that you will likely want to use a plunge router, with a
good edge guide. This adds to your investment.

The good news is that, if you follow Ed's excellent advice, you will be
able to make this cut safely, and repeatedly, with confidence.

You should spend some quality time with Pat Warner's website,
www.patwarner.com, before you warm up your credit card. If there is
something Pat doesn't know about routers, it likely isn't terribly
necessary to know.

More good news: For someone who doesn't expect to use this bit a whole
lot, you can easily use the Rockler version of the bit you specified, in
1/2" shank, for $21.

Patriarch

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

28/08/2004 1:50 AM

"buck" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Patriarch..... Thanks! I will go to Rockler and buy the bit there....
> You saved me some $$. And yes this is for a "musical instrument
> flute"
>

Then there's a whole lot about how you're going to use that box bit that I
don't understand...

Patriarch

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

27/08/2004 10:13 PM


"buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> inch shank. Seeing that I really never use a router, I want to try and
buy
> a less expensive router but all of them are only for 1/4 inch shanks. I

I went the other route. I try to buy 1/2" shank bits as often as possible.
Yes they're more, but within my tolerance level. The bigger shanks are
typically stronger and safer.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

28/08/2004 3:38 AM


"buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Pat... Many of the flutes are made by cutting the block of wood
lengthwise
> and then you channel out the bore on each piece with a router and then
glue
> the two pieces together resulting in a round 7/8 inch bore...... tadaaaaa!

Considering how you are going to use the bit, I have a suggestion. Buy an
economical router and a small router table.. With a table, instead of
trying to guide the router over the wood, you run the wood over top of the
bit. Make several passes to get the final dimension. With a table, you are
running the wood against a fence and it can be held in place better.

Check out
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@1511453943.1093663972@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccgeadcmghjljilcehgcemgdffmdfko.0&vertical=TOOL&pid=00926610000

You can spend $50 or you can spend $500. Or you can make one from a piece
of plywood.

Cn

"CW"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

28/08/2004 7:36 AM

Amana has 3/4 and 1 inch, no 7/8 in 1/4 shank. Oddly enough, their 7/8 has
a 1/2 inch shank. 1/4 inch shank bits of this size are perfectly safe, just
not as rigid as 1/2. Keep the depth of cut reasonable.

"buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute. I don't know
> if you can get this bit in a 1/4 inch shank. I have seen them in 1/2 inch
> shank and they are about $35. Does anyone know if this bit exists in 1/4
> inch shank. Seeing that I really never use a router, I want to try and
buy
> a less expensive router but all of them are only for 1/4 inch shanks. I
> would hate to have to buy a lot more expensive router just to use one
needed
> bit.
>
> -Thanks for any help
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "buck" on 27/08/2004 1:57 PM

27/08/2004 8:57 PM


"buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to buy a 7/8" Core Box bit in order to make a flute. I don't know
> if you can get this bit in a 1/4 inch shank. I have seen them in 1/2 inch
> shank and they are about $35. Does anyone know if this bit exists in 1/4
> inch shank. Seeing that I really never use a router, I want to try and
buy
> a less expensive router but all of them are only for 1/4 inch shanks. I
> would hate to have to buy a lot more expensive router just to use one
needed
> bit.

It is unsafe to use larger diameter bits in a small shank router. Spend the
few extra bucks and get a half decent router and never have to worry about
finding special bits. You can find them for less than $100.

The larger shank has a few advantages. It holds better as there is more
surface area to grab, it will be sturdier and flex less. IMO, a bit that
size is downright dangerous in a small shank. You'd never see me spin one.


You’ve reached the end of replies