So, you always want your lamps in the same place? Forever?
"Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Yup - exactly what they said.
>
> The builder suggested to my wife and I and we looked like him like he was
> crazy.
> Then he explained why it was a good idea.
> We have 3 of them in the LR. Great Idea.
>
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > "Gerald Ross" wrote in message
> > > I have two in my living room. One beneath the back of a free-standing
> > > sofa for the table lamps at either end, and one under the table by my
> > > chair, as well as a phone jack and network cable. These have brass
cover
> > > plates with screw-in covers if they are not being used. Beats tripping
> > > over wires! The odd layout prevents either chair or sofa from being
> > > against a wall.
> > ! =-----
> >
> > Same here ... very handy with lamps, couches and tables in the middle of
a
> > room. No problems if they're done correctly and you use the correct
> > receptacle covers.
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George wrote:>So, you always want your lamps in the same place? Forever?
Well, the layout/orientation of a room usually dictates where you'll likely
place stuff. Wanna watch t.v. without seeing the light from a window reflecting
off the screen? How about reading a book with the same window at your back?
Forever's not so long...Tom
Someday, it'll all be over....
no that just about covers all the problems. maybe you can place it
under a piece of furniture? What on earth would it be used for? A shop
or commercial space I understand but a living room?
BRuce
Tom wrote:
> Well, she thinks she wants a recepticle in the living room floor. Anyone have
> any pros or cons, other than the dust/fur/mop-moisture/tripping problems I'm
> looking at? It's a slab of concrete over which we'll install tile. Tom
> Someday, it'll all be over....
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BRuce
BRuce wrote:>no that just about covers all the problems. maybe you can place
it
>under a piece of furniture? What on earth would it be used for? A shop
>or commercial space I understand but a living room?
We've recently removed a half-wall in the living room. The floorspace is huge,
and our furniture arrangement is not all that near the existing outlets on the
remaining walls. I might just make the cords to the floor lamps longer, and
tape over the trip points in the trafficways. Tom
Someday, it'll all be over....
"Tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> BRuce wrote:>no that just about covers all the problems. maybe you can
place
> it
> >under a piece of furniture? What on earth would it be used for? A shop
> >or commercial space I understand but a living room?
>
> We've recently removed a half-wall in the living room. The floorspace is
huge,
> and our furniture arrangement is not all that near the existing outlets on
the
> remaining walls. I might just make the cords to the floor lamps longer,
and
> tape over the trip points in the trafficways. Tom
> Someday, it'll all be over....
You can also cover them with a carefully cut scrap of carpet if they're not
being used. We have cut berber and the outlet is almost invisible with the
path in place. (Turns out we didn't properly envision the furniture layout
when we told the builder where to put the outlet. D'OH!!)
"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
> I have two in my living room. One beneath the back of a free-standing
> sofa for the table lamps at either end, and one under the table by my
> chair, as well as a phone jack and network cable. These have brass cover
> plates with screw-in covers if they are not being used. Beats tripping
> over wires! The odd layout prevents either chair or sofa from being
> against a wall.
! =-----
Same here ... very handy with lamps, couches and tables in the middle of a
room. No problems if they're done correctly and you use the correct
receptacle covers.
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Last update: 1/23/04
I have two in my living room. One beneath the back of a free-standing
sofa for the table lamps at either end, and one under the table by my
chair, as well as a phone jack and network cable. These have brass cover
plates with screw-in covers if they are not being used. Beats tripping
over wires! The odd layout prevents either chair or sofa from being
against a wall.
BRuce wrote:
>
> no that just about covers all the problems. maybe you can place it
> under a piece of furniture? What on earth would it be used for? A shop
> or commercial space I understand but a living room?
>
> BRuce
>
> Tom wrote:
>
> > Well, she thinks she wants a recepticle in the living room floor. Anyone have
> > any pros or cons, other than the dust/fur/mop-moisture/tripping problems I'm
> > looking at? It's a slab of concrete over which we'll install tile. Tom
> > Someday, it'll all be over....
>
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>
> BRuce
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You can do this. Several of the suppliers, Hubbell, Leviton, etc. have
NEC blessed flat conductors that are glued to the concrete and feed into
a floor mounted box. Carpet is placed over it with no bumps. The box
can be on top of the floor or can be set into the floor so the plate is
flush with the surface. They're not free but are affordable. I had
some installed in my conference room not long ago.
RB
Tom wrote:
> Well, she thinks she wants a recepticle in the living room floor. Anyone have
> any pros or cons, other than the dust/fur/mop-moisture/tripping problems I'm
> looking at? It's a slab of concrete over which we'll install tile. Tom
> Someday, it'll all be over....
Lot of work to do properly and a lot of concrete cutting for a channel
to run the wire to the outlet
John
On 26 Jan 2004 20:40:54 GMT, [email protected] (Tom) wrote:
>Well, she thinks she wants a recepticle in the living room floor. Anyone have
>any pros or cons, other than the dust/fur/mop-moisture/tripping problems I'm
>looking at? It's a slab of concrete over which we'll install tile. Tom
>Someday, it'll all be over....
Yup - exactly what they said.
The builder suggested to my wife and I and we looked like him like he was
crazy.
Then he explained why it was a good idea.
We have 3 of them in the LR. Great Idea.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Gerald Ross" wrote in message
> > I have two in my living room. One beneath the back of a free-standing
> > sofa for the table lamps at either end, and one under the table by my
> > chair, as well as a phone jack and network cable. These have brass cover
> > plates with screw-in covers if they are not being used. Beats tripping
> > over wires! The odd layout prevents either chair or sofa from being
> > against a wall.
> ! =-----
>
> Same here ... very handy with lamps, couches and tables in the middle of a
> room. No problems if they're done correctly and you use the correct
> receptacle covers.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 1/23/04
>
>
>
When I built my house a few years ago I installed a few electrical boxes
in the basement floor with conduit up the wall; it all worked fine. You
need a special "box" with the correct connectors to conduit, it is sort
of like working with pvc pipes. It is well worth it to have those
outlets! This is my shop area in the basement, 18x30. Oh, pull extra
wire so you never run out.
Mike Coonrod
Tom wrote:
> Well, she thinks she wants a recepticle in the living room floor. Anyone have
> any pros or cons, other than the dust/fur/mop-moisture/tripping problems I'm
> looking at? It's a slab of concrete over which we'll install tile. Tom
> Someday, it'll all be over....
On 26 Jan 2004 20:40:54 GMT, [email protected] (Tom) wrote:
|Well, she thinks she wants a recepticle in the living room floor. Anyone have
|any pros or cons, other than the dust/fur/mop-moisture/tripping problems I'm
|looking at? It's a slab of concrete over which we'll install tile. Tom
|Someday, it'll all be over....
I've got two in my living room, but they were put in the slab when it
was placed.
You're going to have to do some concrete cutting and that ain't easy.
Tom wrote:
> Well, she thinks she wants a recepticle in the living room floor.
> Anyone have any pros or cons, other than the dust/fur/mop-
> moisture/tripping problems I'm looking at? It's a slab of concrete
> over which we'll install tile. Tom Someday, it'll all be over....
I recall something about the electrical codes prohibiting them in at least
some cases. You may want to check it out.
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On 26 Jan 2004 20:40:54 GMT, [email protected] (Tom) wrote:
>Well, she thinks she wants a recepticle in the living room floor. Anyone have
>any pros or cons, other than the dust/fur/mop-moisture/tripping problems I'm
>looking at? It's a slab of concrete over which we'll install tile. Tom
>Someday, it'll all be over....
When I built my shop, I wanted to put some outlets in the floor so
that I wouldn't have cords running to machines like the table saw. I
was afraid that if I had an outlet in the floor, it would fill with
sawdust and that just seemed to have more issues than I wanted to
think about. My shop is upstairs, over the garage. What I did was to
mount boxes on the ceiling of the garage, with the outlets facing
down, and cut holes in the floor through which I pass the cord, then
plug in from downstairs. I get little piles of sawdust on the cars
under the holes, but other than that - it works fine.
Had a long discussion with the electrical inspector, he thought that
it might not be allowed to pass the cables through the floor without a
conduit, but as he put it, you could just unplug the saw, and I could
inspect, then you could plug it back in after I left. When I asked if
he would like me to do this, he just said not to bother, that he
didn't see anything wrong with my solution, and a lot which was right.
The garage/shop is a timber frame building, so there were many items
on the building inspectors list which were NA.