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24/01/2004 6:08 PM

Be gentle, I'm a rookie

Although I've had a table saw for a while, I'm not quite up to amateur
status yet, so be gentle if this is a dumb question. :)

I have a DeWalt DW706 miter saw, and the 60 tooth blade that came with
it. That's fine for trim work, but I need another blade, and I'm
looking for suggestions. I would like to get a 12" blade that will be
good for general woodworking, *and* construction, without breaking the
bank. For construction work, I will mostly be cutting 2X4s, and an
occasional 4X4. Is this asking too much from a blade? Any suggestions?

Ed


This topic has 20 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to [email protected] on 24/01/2004 6:08 PM

25/01/2004 6:10 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

> They don't even work. Those stupid beepie things go off so many times that
> employees ignore them. Shoplifters don't worry about it anyway. They
> linger by the door and wait for some innocent schmuck to trip the thing
> with a legitimate purchase that wasn't properly deactivated, then haul ass
> while said schmuck is going through his bag trying to prove he paid for
> everything in it. (DAMHIKT...)

I've had them go off once or twice. I refuse to stop. A quick "you're
welcome to follow me to my car and record the licence number" is all
they get.

I also refuse to leave my backpack with the cashier in those stores
with the sign.

djb

--
There are no socks in my email address.

"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

vD

[email protected] (Dan Valleskey)

in reply to [email protected] on 24/01/2004 6:08 PM

26/01/2004 3:33 AM



different in Europe, I had to leave my back pack at desks a few times.
they do not tolerate any bullshit, you WILL NOT steal from them.

-Dan V.


>
>I also refuse to leave my backpack with the cashier in those stores
>with the sign.
>
>djb
>
>--
>There are no socks in my email address.
>
>"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

MH

"Mark Hopkins"

in reply to [email protected] on 24/01/2004 6:08 PM

24/01/2004 8:56 PM

I like that gold Diablo at Home Depot if they can keep from putting those
theft detectors on them an warping the blade.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Although I've had a table saw for a while, I'm not quite up to amateur
> status yet, so be gentle if this is a dumb question. :)
>
> I have a DeWalt DW706 miter saw, and the 60 tooth blade that came with
> it. That's fine for trim work, but I need another blade, and I'm
> looking for suggestions. I would like to get a 12" blade that will be
> good for general woodworking, *and* construction, without breaking the
> bank. For construction work, I will mostly be cutting 2X4s, and an
> occasional 4X4. Is this asking too much from a blade? Any suggestions?
>
> Ed

Dd

"Doug"

in reply to [email protected] on 24/01/2004 6:08 PM

25/01/2004 3:19 PM

Hehe. Last Christmas I bought a DVD player at WalMart. The cashier didn't
de-activate the beepie thing. I stopped at the door so's the door dude could
go through my $600 worth of Christmas shopping, the cart was full. He
finally realized the thing was in the DVD box and said 'just go'.
When I got home I pulled the dang thing outta the box and went back to
WalMart, took a cart into the store and stuck the thing on the bottom of
the cart and left.
I know I'm a s*&t for doing it but couldn't help myself.

Doug


"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Hopkins wrote:
>
> > I like that gold Diablo at Home Depot if they can keep from putting
those
> > theft detectors on them an warping the blade.
>
> I hate those things. Some idiot at Wal-Mart starting putting them onto
> DVDs. Onto the disc itself. I discovered this when a disc wouldn't play
> because it was so far out of balance. I could have ruined my DVD player,
> and I could have destroyed the data on the disc getting the damn thing off
> too.
>
> They don't even work. Those stupid beepie things go off so many times
that
> employees ignore them. Shoplifters don't worry about it anyway. They
> linger by the door and wait for some innocent schmuck to trip the thing
> with a legitimate purchase that wasn't properly deactivated, then haul ass
> while said schmuck is going through his bag trying to prove he paid for
> everything in it. (DAMHIKT...)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Doug" on 25/01/2004 3:19 PM

26/01/2004 12:20 AM

Doug writes:

>DVD box and said 'just go'.
>When I got home I pulled the dang thing outta the box and went back to
>WalMart, took a cart into the store and stuck the thing on the bottom of
>the cart and left.
>I know I'm a s*&t for doing it but couldn't help myself.

Wish I'd thought of it.

Charlie Self
"Character is much easier kept than recovered." Thomas Paine

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to [email protected] on 24/01/2004 6:08 PM

25/01/2004 12:51 PM

How do these things warp products? Do they clamp onto it somehow?

My only experience with something like that was a $100 dress shirt I bought
about a year ago. I got it home and found it had a plastic and metal device
threaded through one of the button holes. Damned thing took me the better
part of an hour to cut off without damaging the shirt. Next time I passed by
the store where I'd bought it, I asked about it. Turns out it was an anti
theft device and was supposed to set off an alarm if it left the store. No
alarm went off when I passed it through one of the magnetic detectors.

"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Hopkins wrote:
>
> > I like that gold Diablo at Home Depot if they can keep from putting
those
> > theft detectors on them an warping the blade.
>
> I hate those things. Some idiot at Wal-Mart starting putting them onto
> DVDs. Onto the disc itself. I discovered this when a disc wouldn't play
> because it was so far out of balance. I could have ruined my DVD player,
> and I could have destroyed the data on the disc getting the damn thing off
> too.
>
> They don't even work. Those stupid beepie things go off so many times
that
> employees ignore them. Shoplifters don't worry about it anyway. They
> linger by the door and wait for some innocent schmuck to trip the thing
> with a legitimate purchase that wasn't properly deactivated, then haul ass
> while said schmuck is going through his bag trying to prove he paid for
> everything in it. (DAMHIKT...)
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] on 24/01/2004 6:08 PM

25/01/2004 1:03 AM

Mark Hopkins wrote:

> I like that gold Diablo at Home Depot if they can keep from putting those
> theft detectors on them an warping the blade.

I hate those things. Some idiot at Wal-Mart starting putting them onto
DVDs. Onto the disc itself. I discovered this when a disc wouldn't play
because it was so far out of balance. I could have ruined my DVD player,
and I could have destroyed the data on the disc getting the damn thing off
too.

They don't even work. Those stupid beepie things go off so many times that
employees ignore them. Shoplifters don't worry about it anyway. They
linger by the door and wait for some innocent schmuck to trip the thing
with a legitimate purchase that wasn't properly deactivated, then haul ass
while said schmuck is going through his bag trying to prove he paid for
everything in it. (DAMHIKT...)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to Silvan on 25/01/2004 1:03 AM

25/01/2004 2:30 PM

Charlie Self wrote:

> Some cashier had forgotten to swipe one of my purchases over the
> deactivator. Wanna have some real fun: place your credit card on that
> deactivator without thinking. You'd better have another card or cash
> with you.
>
> Charlie Self

I've had that happen, twice in one week. The manager could not understand
why I was very upset that the minimum wage twinkie on the register did not
do her job and forced me to delay and sort through bags looking for the
errant tag. Of course I never got an apology. Well not right away anyway
;)
--
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Silvan on 25/01/2004 1:03 AM

25/01/2004 2:20 PM

Silvan writes:

>They don't even work. Those stupid beepie things go off so many times that
>employees ignore them. Shoplifters don't worry about it anyway. They
>linger by the door and wait for some innocent schmuck to trip the thing
>with a legitimate purchase that wasn't properly deactivated, then haul ass
>while said schmuck is going through his bag trying to prove he paid for
>everything in it. (DAMHIKT...)

Heh. Yeah, well. First time one of those things went off for me, I was on my
way out of the old WalMart in Bedford. As usual, my mind was miles away,
figuring what I needed to do when I got back to the shop. The beeper beeped,
loudly, I jumpted and shouted "What the F$$!" Much to the horror of the little
white haird lady manning the gate.

Some cashier had forgotten to swipe one of my purchases over the deactivator.
Wanna have some real fun: place your credit card on that deactivator without
thinking. You'd better have another card or cash with you.

Charlie Self
"Character is much easier kept than recovered." Thomas Paine

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

xD

[email protected] (Dave Mundt)

in reply to Silvan on 25/01/2004 1:03 AM

25/01/2004 10:23 PM

Greetings and Salutations.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:30:20 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Charlie Self wrote:
>
>> Some cashier had forgotten to swipe one of my purchases over the
>> deactivator. Wanna have some real fun: place your credit card on that
>> deactivator without thinking. You'd better have another card or cash
>> with you.
>>
>> Charlie Self
>
>I've had that happen, twice in one week. The manager could not understand
>why I was very upset that the minimum wage twinkie on the register did not
>do her job and forced me to delay and sort through bags looking for the
>errant tag. Of course I never got an apology. Well not right away anyway
>;)
>--
>Ed
>[email protected]
>http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
I had one better than this last year. I had JUST picked up a
pair of pants from a local retailer, and, was wearing them when I
walked into a Pep Boy's auto parts store. I did hear the sensor
chirp when I walked in, but, did not think anything of it, as folks
were leaving at the same time. Well, after getting the oil I needed,
I started to head out the door, and, the blasted alarm went off.
The clerk asked me to hang on for a minute, I assume so the manager
could review tapes or something. The manager showed up a couple
of minutes later, and said I could take off.
As it turned out, there was a tuned circuit glued in the back
pocket of the pants, apparently an antitheft thing. I took it out
and had no further problems.
I suppose the thing that annoys me the most about this is
the same reason I am angered by the airport searches. It simply
says that EVERYONE is a criminal, and should be treated so. Now,
if this is true, then America is further along the path of self-
destruction than I thought. If it is false, then, it is punishing
the majority because of the actions of a minority...which is also
wrong.
Sigh.
Off the soap box now.
Regards
Dave Mundt

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Silvan on 25/01/2004 1:03 AM

25/01/2004 8:47 PM

Charlie Self wrote:

>>while said schmuck is going through his bag trying to prove he paid for
>>everything in it. (DAMHIKT...)
>
> Heh. Yeah, well. First time one of those things went off for me, I was on

Thought I would re-state for the record here, I was the schmuck, not the
shoplifter. You realized that, but upon re-reading my post, it wasn't
perfectly obvious.

> Some cashier had forgotten to swipe one of my purchases over the
> deactivator. Wanna have some real fun: place your credit card on that
> deactivator without thinking. You'd better have another card or cash with
> you.

Not a problem. I cut mine up five years ago. Two more years, and the damn
things are paid off. Actually, a bit less than two years now. Probably 18
months.

I'm looking forward to it like you wouldn't believe!

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Hn

Han

in reply to Silvan on 25/01/2004 1:03 AM

26/01/2004 1:37 AM

A couple of years ago I bought a pair of pants (or whatever they call them)
at Macy's (Paramus Park). When I got home the antitheft thing was still
attached, complete with warning how the pants would get stained/painted if
I tried to remove the thing. I had to go back to the store and complain.
I got another discount (I believe $10 on an already discounted el cheapo
pair) in part because I was "righteously indignated" because of the trouble
to drive back and forth.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Silvan on 25/01/2004 1:03 AM

26/01/2004 1:46 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Greetings and Salutations.
>
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:30:20 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
... snip
> >Ed
> >[email protected]
> >http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
> >
> >
> I had one better than this last year. I had JUST picked up a
> pair of pants from a local retailer, and, was wearing them when I
> walked into a Pep Boy's auto parts store. I did hear the sensor
> chirp when I walked in, but, did not think anything of it, as folks
> were leaving at the same time. Well, after getting the oil I needed,
> I started to head out the door, and, the blasted alarm went off.
> The clerk asked me to hang on for a minute, I assume so the manager
> could review tapes or something. The manager showed up a couple
> of minutes later, and said I could take off.
> As it turned out, there was a tuned circuit glued in the back
> pocket of the pants, apparently an antitheft thing. I took it out
> and had no further problems.
> I suppose the thing that annoys me the most about this is
> the same reason I am angered by the airport searches. It simply
> says that EVERYONE is a criminal, and should be treated so.

Actually, it's worse than that. A criminal has more rights than you
do in an airport search. Probable cause must be shown before you can
simply ask somebody to strip for a search, not so in the airport.

> Now,
> if this is true, then America is further along the path of self-
> destruction than I thought. If it is false, then, it is punishing
> the majority because of the actions of a minority...which is also
> wrong.
> Sigh.
> Off the soap box now.
> Regards
> Dave Mundt
>

JC

John Crea

in reply to Silvan on 25/01/2004 1:03 AM

25/01/2004 12:29 PM

Charlie

If you ruin the magnetic stripe on your credit card, the clerk should
be able to just manually input the card number when they ring up the
purchase

John

On 25 Jan 2004 14:20:20 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Silvan writes:
>
>>They don't even work. Those stupid beepie things go off so many times that
>>employees ignore them. Shoplifters don't worry about it anyway. They
>>linger by the door and wait for some innocent schmuck to trip the thing
>>with a legitimate purchase that wasn't properly deactivated, then haul ass
>>while said schmuck is going through his bag trying to prove he paid for
>>everything in it. (DAMHIKT...)
>
>Heh. Yeah, well. First time one of those things went off for me, I was on my
>way out of the old WalMart in Bedford. As usual, my mind was miles away,
>figuring what I needed to do when I got back to the shop. The beeper beeped,
>loudly, I jumpted and shouted "What the F$$!" Much to the horror of the little
>white haird lady manning the gate.
>
>Some cashier had forgotten to swipe one of my purchases over the deactivator.
>Wanna have some real fun: place your credit card on that deactivator without
>thinking. You'd better have another card or cash with you.
>
>Charlie Self
>"Character is much easier kept than recovered." Thomas Paine
>
>http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to John Crea on 25/01/2004 12:29 PM

25/01/2004 6:46 PM

John Crea notes:

>Charlie
>
>If you ruin the magnetic stripe on your credit card, the clerk should
>be able to just manually input the card number when they ring up the
>purchase

Happened to a guy in front of me, who had another card, so I never got the
option. It does teach you to keep clear of the little swiper, though.

Charlie Self
"Character is much easier kept than recovered." Thomas Paine

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

WS

Wes Stewart

in reply to Silvan on 25/01/2004 1:03 AM

25/01/2004 9:00 AM

On 25 Jan 2004 14:20:20 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

|Silvan writes:
|
|>They don't even work. Those stupid beepie things go off so many times that
|>employees ignore them. Shoplifters don't worry about it anyway. They
|>linger by the door and wait for some innocent schmuck to trip the thing
|>with a legitimate purchase that wasn't properly deactivated, then haul ass
|>while said schmuck is going through his bag trying to prove he paid for
|>everything in it. (DAMHIKT...)
|
|Heh. Yeah, well. First time one of those things went off for me, I was on my
|way out of the old WalMart in Bedford. As usual, my mind was miles away,
|figuring what I needed to do when I got back to the shop. The beeper beeped,
|loudly, I jumpted and shouted "What the F$$!" Much to the horror of the little
|white haird lady manning the gate.

Why did you stop walking? I say F$$! too and just keep on walking to
my car.

MB

Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

in reply to Silvan on 25/01/2004 1:03 AM

26/01/2004 3:52 PM

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:47:51 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Charlie Self wrote:
>>... You'd better have another card or cash with you.
>
>Not a problem. I cut mine up five years ago. Two more years, and the damn
>things are paid off. Actually, a bit less than two years now. Probably 18
>months.

Just my 2 cents of encouragement: Whatever it takes, stay the course.
There is nothing-- NOTHing-- like being debt free. Whatever the
price, it's worth it. Sleeping at night is wunnerful.

Michael

E

in reply to [email protected] on 24/01/2004 6:08 PM

25/01/2004 11:29 AM

"Mark Hopkins" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I like that gold Diablo at Home Depot if they can keep from putting those
> theft detectors on them an warping the blade.
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Although I've had a table saw for a while, I'm not quite up to amateur
> > status yet, so be gentle if this is a dumb question. :)
> >
> > I have a DeWalt DW706 miter saw, and the 60 tooth blade that came with
> > it. That's fine for trim work, but I need another blade, and I'm
> > looking for suggestions. I would like to get a 12" blade that will be
> > good for general woodworking, *and* construction, without breaking the
> > bank. For construction work, I will mostly be cutting 2X4s, and an
> > occasional 4X4. Is this asking too much from a blade? Any suggestions?
> >
> > Ed

Thanks for the reply Mark. That's one I'll have to consider. How much
of a problem do those theft detectors present??

Ed

Bn

Bridger

in reply to [email protected] on 24/01/2004 6:08 PM

26/01/2004 10:00 PM

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:19:02 -0800, "Doug" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hehe. Last Christmas I bought a DVD player at WalMart. The cashier didn't
>de-activate the beepie thing.

> I pulled the dang thing outta the box and went back to
>WalMart, took a cart into the store and stuck the thing on the bottom of
>the cart and left.
>I know I'm a s*&t for doing it but couldn't help myself.
>
>Doug
>

good one. I'll have to remember that one...

BH

Brian H

in reply to [email protected] on 24/01/2004 6:08 PM

25/01/2004 1:11 PM

I have the red Diablo blade (from HD, 80-tooth) and it's
fine for woodworking and fine trim work. I kept and use
the OEM DW706 blade for construction work
(2x4's, etc), it only take a few minutes to swap blades.

-brian

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:56:42 -0500, Mark Hopkins wrote:

> I like that gold Diablo at Home Depot if they can keep from putting those
> theft detectors on them an warping the blade.
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Although I've had a table saw for a while, I'm not quite up to amateur
>> status yet, so be gentle if this is a dumb question. :)
>>
>> I have a DeWalt DW706 miter saw, and the 60 tooth blade that came with
>> it. That's fine for trim work, but I need another blade, and I'm
>> looking for suggestions. I would like to get a 12" blade that will be
>> good for general woodworking, *and* construction, without breaking the
>> bank. For construction work, I will mostly be cutting 2X4s, and an
>> occasional 4X4. Is this asking too much from a blade? Any suggestions?
>>
>> Ed


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