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"Rick Samuel"

08/04/2008 2:06 PM

OT Cad software

This has been discussed and cussed before.

Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator error???)
Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking at.
I've used AutoCad years ago.

CorelDraw Graphics 3X? TurboCad 14? What do you guys/gals use?

For general shop/furniture and home use. Signs. Maybe floor plans and
landscape. Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.

Thanks.



This topic has 14 replies

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randyswoodshoop

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

08/04/2008 12:09 PM

On Apr 8, 6:06=A0am, "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> =A0This has been discussed and cussed before.
>
> =A0Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator error???)
> Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking at.
> I've used AutoCad years ago.
>
> =A0CorelDraw Graphics 3X? =A0 TurboCad 14? =A0 What do you guys/gals use?
>
> =A0For general shop/furniture and home use. =A0Signs. =A0Maybe floor plans=
and
> landscape. =A0Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.
>
> =A0Thanks.

I have used designcad which is not to hard to learn.
I also use corel draw for most of my projects, only because its what I
taught to use.
Most people swear by Autocad, My brother loves it. But it is to
expensive for my blood.
I would check out designcad and corel darw.

Randy
http://nokeswoodworks.com

Cj

Chiefwoodworker

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

13/04/2008 3:06 PM

Well at 63 they can chase me down easily, but I don't see too many
behind me. Hmmmm! Wonder why? But I can certainly appreciate the game
as a spectator. ;<)

Joe...
www.srww.com

On Apr 12, 5:47 pm, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Chiefwoodworker" wrote
>
> > SO what are you going to do now that you are getting on with life?
>
> LOL ... Let more women win the chase?
>
> ;)
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 3/27/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

08/04/2008 2:43 PM

"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> This has been discussed and cussed before.
>
> Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator
> error???)
> Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking
> at. I've used AutoCad years ago.
>
> CorelDraw Graphics 3X? TurboCad 14? What do you guys/gals use?
>
> For general shop/furniture and home use. Signs. Maybe floor plans
> and
> landscape. Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.
>
> Thanks.

Software sampling is a process of doing searches for the software you
want, downloading a bunch of programs that look like they'll work,
installing them and uninstalling the ones that don't work. Some
programs are just plain junk and are being installed 5 minutes later.

Watch out for illegitimate download sites. Your best option is the
producer's website, as they have a stake in keeping the download clean.
The next best option is somewhere like download.com or tucows.com.

I usually use CadStd. If you're familiar with mechanical drafting,
you'll quickly adjust to CadStd. (Although it does have a few UI
quirks. You get used to them, and find they're useful design options.)

Puckdropper
--
You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

10/04/2008 7:10 PM

"Chiefwoodworker" wrote

> I was a 15 year user of TurboCAD, but since discovering SketchUp in
> Fine Woodworking a few months back I abandoned TC and never looked
> back. After about 6 weeks of a relearning curve I find I can draw
> quicker and with fewer mistakes in SketchUp.

Although I haven't had time to really get into the meat of it, it is
apparent there is much to learn at your "blog". Keep up the good work!

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Last update: 3/8/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Cj

Chiefwoodworker

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

12/04/2008 2:30 PM

Swingman,

Thanks for the feedback. I am having fun with it.

I visited your website. You shop looks great and I got an idea for a
new fixture by looking through yours. I kitchen cabinets are gorgeous.
SO what are you going to do now that you are getting on with life?

Joe....
www.srww.com

On Apr 10, 8:10 pm, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Chiefwoodworker" wrote
>
> > I was a 15 year user of TurboCAD, but since discovering SketchUp in
> > Fine Woodworking a few months back I abandoned TC and never looked
> > back. After about 6 weeks of a relearning curve I find I can draw
> > quicker and with fewer mistakes in SketchUp.
>
> Although I haven't had time to really get into the meat of it, it is
> apparent there is much to learn at your "blog". Keep up the good work!
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 3/8/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Cj

Chiefwoodworker

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

10/04/2008 3:30 AM

On Apr 9, 10:21 am, "Skip Williams" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I use Turbocad mainly because I have had it since the olde DOS days. It is
> probably the most expensive software I have purchased, even thouth it only
> cost about $39 18 years ago...Figure upgrades from version 1 or 2 all the
> way up to version 15<g>. It still works great for 2d and 3d drawings and is
> somewhate better than the free Sketchup in its rendering.
>
> That being said, if i had to start over again right now, I probably would go
> with Sketchup.
>
> Skipwww.ShopFileR.con
>
> "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
I was a 15 year user of TurboCAD, but since discovering SketchUp in
Fine Woodworking a few months back I abandoned TC and never looked
back. After about 6 weeks of a relearning curve I find I can draw
quicker and with fewer mistakes in SketchUp.

Joe....
www.srww.com

> news:[email protected]...
>
> > This has been discussed and cussed before.
>
> > Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator error???)
> > Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking at.
> > I've used AutoCad years ago.
>
> > CorelDraw Graphics 3X? TurboCad 14? What do you guys/gals use?
>
> > For general shop/furniture and home use. Signs. Maybe floor plans and
> > landscape. Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.
>
> > Thanks.

dd

depictureboy

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

08/04/2008 6:50 AM

On Apr 8, 7:06=A0am, "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> =A0This has been discussed and cussed before.
>
> =A0Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator error???)
> Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking at.
> I've used AutoCad years ago.
>
> =A0CorelDraw Graphics 3X? =A0 TurboCad 14? =A0 What do you guys/gals use?
>
> =A0For general shop/furniture and home use. =A0Signs. =A0Maybe floor plans=
and
> landscape. =A0Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.
>
> =A0Thanks.

I use thermwoods e-cabinets software. I like it pretty much. there are
things that you have to play around with, but its decent software and
the price is right.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

08/04/2008 3:43 PM


"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This has been discussed and cussed before.
>
> Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator error???)
> Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking at.
> I've used AutoCad years ago.
>
> CorelDraw Graphics 3X? TurboCad 14? What do you guys/gals use?
>
> For general shop/furniture and home use. Signs. Maybe floor plans and
> landscape. Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.
>
> Thanks.
>



I use AutoCAD LT. It should be easy for you to learn if you have used it
before. A good generic clone of AutoCAD is IntelliCAD and it is much
cheaper.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

08/04/2008 8:37 AM

"Rick Samuel" wrote

> For general shop/furniture and home use. Signs. Maybe floor plans and
> landscape. Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.

I'm partial to AutoSketch only because it took the place of/is the same
program as QuickCAD, once the subject of a magazine article about its
suitability to woodworking, although I used it long before that.

Once a $50 program, it now runs about $120, IIRC.

The program is about as intuitive as they get, and has a plus in that it
will open and let you manipulate AutoCAD files.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=2753027

Gig'em ...

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SW

"Skip Williams"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

09/04/2008 10:21 AM

I use Turbocad mainly because I have had it since the olde DOS days. It is
probably the most expensive software I have purchased, even thouth it only
cost about $39 18 years ago...Figure upgrades from version 1 or 2 all the
way up to version 15<g>. It still works great for 2d and 3d drawings and is
somewhate better than the free Sketchup in its rendering.

That being said, if i had to start over again right now, I probably would go
with Sketchup.

Skip
www.ShopFileR.con




"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This has been discussed and cussed before.
>
> Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator error???)
> Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking at.
> I've used AutoCad years ago.
>
> CorelDraw Graphics 3X? TurboCad 14? What do you guys/gals use?
>
> For general shop/furniture and home use. Signs. Maybe floor plans and
> landscape. Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

08/04/2008 9:14 AM

On Apr 8, 7:06=A0am, "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> =A0This has been discussed and cussed before.
>
> =A0Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator error???)
> Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking at.
> I've used AutoCad years ago.
>
> =A0CorelDraw Graphics 3X? =A0 TurboCad 14? =A0 What do you guys/gals use?
>
> =A0For general shop/furniture and home use. =A0Signs. =A0Maybe floor plans=
and
> landscape. =A0Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.
>

Vectorworks.
http://www.nemetschek.net/

You buy the features you need. Pricey but humongously powerful. (eat
THAT, spellchecker!!!)
Available for Mac and PC, and interestingly enough, the architects
building Bill Gates' house, use it.....on a Mac...*evil snicker*

I have no idea what it costs these days, as I have crawled up the
upgrade path since it was called Diehl's Graphsoft MiniCAD. I have
tried and tried to do better, to no avail. Even a competitive deal
from Ashlar came up short in the real world. Nice... but ultimately no
cigar.
When I did a few college courses to get a shingle to hang (bragging
rights) in AutoCAD, I did my homework on a Mac in (what is now called
Vectorworks) MiniCAD and then exported it to AutoCAD. I aced one
course in 3D ( 4.0 GPA).
As my business is based on selling a picture, 3D modelling is a must
and Vectorworks delivers much more, for much less, than AutoCAD.
AutoCAD is the most overrated piece of software on the planet.
WhoTF needs 6 ways to draw a line?
Don't get me wrong. AutoCAD is a deFacto industry standard, but so was
VHS, 'nuff said?
When it comes to 3D modelling, AutoCAD is a slug. Period. Anyone
defending it has 'done his/her time' to get it to work, so they will
never let go, but....

You don't need a Strad' to fiddle, but Vectorworks is brilliant. Plain
and simple.

my $ 0.024.

r

RS

"Rick Samuel"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

09/04/2008 8:47 AM

Thanks for the imput


"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This has been discussed and cussed before.
>
> Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator error???)
> Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking at.
> I've used AutoCad years ago.
>
> CorelDraw Graphics 3X? TurboCad 14? What do you guys/gals use?
>
> For general shop/furniture and home use. Signs. Maybe floor plans and
> landscape. Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

JA

"Joe AutoDrill"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

08/04/2008 2:01 PM

"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This has been discussed and cussed before.
>
> Have used Sketch Up, but find it a little lacking, (operator error???)
> Google gives too many options, when your not sure what your looking at.
> I've used AutoCad years ago.
>
> CorelDraw Graphics 3X? TurboCad 14? What do you guys/gals use?
>
> For general shop/furniture and home use. Signs. Maybe floor plans and
> landscape. Don't want to out grow it in 2-3 years.

If you grab an older copy of AutoCAD, you can download the universal
translator from the folks at SolidWorks. It allows you to open newer
versions of ACAD drawings in older versions of the software. DWG Gateway I
think... http://www.dwggateway.com/

They put it out to try and undermine AutoCAD's dominance of the market and
thus build business for SolidWorks.
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01.908.542.0244
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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 08/04/2008 2:06 PM

12/04/2008 4:47 PM

"Chiefwoodworker" wrote

> SO what are you going to do now that you are getting on with life?

LOL ... Let more women win the chase?

;)

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Last update: 3/27/08
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