Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The Delta saw is American made
(for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear Swiss but
made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and Bosch
router. So my question, which is the better saw?
Jet =
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006S7CP/103-3447138-1191016?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I3SPZFI62IOJ16&colid=2OY4IQIN2GII8
Delta =
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A25Y8/qid=1083870564/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-3447138-1191016?v=glance&s=home-garden&n=507846
Gary
Replaced? No. Inherited? Maybe. I know it's tough to consider, but some
of my heirs probably won't want to work wood. I hope they have enough trees
around to make it a real decision.
--
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Shoot Bill, I would hope a Unisaw would not have to be replaced. ;~)
But,
> then he is a beginner.
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> "There are actually several options when looking to buy a
> table saw. There's Jet, Grizzly, Powermatic and Delta.
> There are things about each that you should know before
> deciding. I'll es'plain them here.
>
What, no General?
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
Gary wrote:
> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
> it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
> Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The Delta saw is American made
> (for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear Swiss but
> made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and Bosch
> router. So my question, which is the better saw?
>
> Jet =
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006S7CP/103-3447138-1191016?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I3SPZFI62IOJ16&colid=2OY4IQIN2GII8
>
> Delta =
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A25Y8/qid=1083870564/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-3447138-1191016?v=glance&s=home-garden&n=507846
>
> Gary
When I faced a similar decision Keeter's advice helped me decide. Here's a repost of his message from 02/14/2001:
"There are actually several options when looking to buy a
table saw. There's Jet, Grizzly, Powermatic and Delta.
There are things about each that you should know before
deciding. I'll es'plain them here.
The Jet:
If you are the type that wears an ascot in the shop, the Jet
is the way to go for you. You'll enjoy the hours spent
cleaning, waxing and maintaining it's creamy white color.
Before long you'll be sporting a monocle and one of those
long cigarette holders. The children will learn to love
being called Scooter and Buffy.
The Grizzly:
This saw says, "I'm a working man and don't want to spend
the money for a Jet, Powermatic or Delta and y'all can just
go to Hell". You most likely wear blue jeans (Levi's Jeff)
and a tee shirt around the shop. You most likely wear blue
jeans and a tee shirt to a wedding. You most likely wear
blue jeans and a tee shirt just about everywhere.
The Powermatic:
This saw says, "I'm a pretentious prick".
The Delta:
If your body contains even one ounce of funk you'll find
yourself walking past the above and heading straight to the
Delta. You won't pick the Plutonium Edition. That would
make you an ascot wearing pretentious twit. No, you kindly
ask for the gray one. If your body had more funk you'd hunt
down a used one fully knowing that a used machine can/could
be just as good as a new one and never loses it's value, if
properly maintained. The more funk your body has, the older
the saw. If your body could hold enough funk, you'd be on
the quest for the Holy Grail of table saws, a 50's vintage
Unisaw with the cast iron base, Cutler-Hammer two pole
'lektikal switch and Art Deco switch cover. If, as I've
said, your body could hold enough funk.
Check your closet before deciding and good luck with the new
saw.
Keith Bohn"
--
Jack Novak
Stuck wear'n an ascot in
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
Which company has the closest customer service center?
Dave
"Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
> it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
> Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The Delta saw is American
made
> (for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear Swiss
but
> made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and Bosch
> router. So my question, which is the better saw?
>
> Jet =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006S7CP/103-3447138-1191016?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I3SPZFI62IOJ16&colid=2OY4IQIN2GII8
>
> Delta =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A25Y8/qid=1083870564/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-3447138-1191016?v=glance&s=home-garden&n=507846
>
> Gary
>
>
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I would go with the Delta with a Unifence.
You can't get the fence on a Jet.
Just my preference.
Both are good saws however.
Rob
"Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
> it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
> Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The Delta saw is American
made
> (for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear Swiss
but
> made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and Bosch
> router. So my question, which is the better saw?
>
> Jet =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006S7CP/103-3447138-1191016?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I3SPZFI62IOJ16&colid=2OY4IQIN2GII8
>
> Delta =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A25Y8/qid=1083870564/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-3447138-1191016?v=glance&s=home-garden&n=507846
>
> Gary
>
>
"Gary" writes:
> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
> it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
> Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet .
<snip>
Jack up a Unifence, drive something under it that calls itself a table saw,
and you won't be unhappy.
To paraphrase J Carvelle's comment from the '92 election, "It's the fence
stupid".
Seriously, pick the fence you like, let the saw tag along for the ride.
HTH
--
Lew
S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
As I gaze into my crystal ball I see the future of this question..
Those that own Delta's will say Delta, those that own Jets are going to say
Jet, those that own other will suggest other and a small but fanatical group
of radicals will suggest you forsake the evils of electricity and get a good
handsaw and an oil lamp..
Go figure.
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
> it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
> Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The Delta saw is American
made
> (for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear Swiss
but
> made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and Bosch
> router. So my question, which is the better saw?
>
> Jet =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006S7CP/103-3447138-1191016?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I3SPZFI62IOJ16&colid=2OY4IQIN2GII8
>
> Delta =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A25Y8/qid=1083870564/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-3447138-1191016?v=glance&s=home-garden&n=507846
>
> Gary
>
>
"Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
> it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
> Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The Delta saw is American
made
> (for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear Swiss
but
> made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and Bosch
> router. So my question, which is the better saw?
Both are good. What color do you like better?
Seriously, that may be the swing feature. I don't think you will know what
saw is under you when you are pushing a piece of wood through it. I've used
both and they both perform very well.
I'm partial to the Bies fence. The router in the extension table is nice at
times, but not as good as a real full featured router table. It comes down
to cost and space for that decision. If my router is set up for an
operation, I don't want to have to change it to cut some wood.
IMO, you will have good performance from either and will be happy with
either. I have both Delta and Jet tools so I'm not prejudice for one of the
other. Be sure to get a good blade and look at the General 650 also.
Ed
"Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to
>> furnish it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy,
>> either a Delta Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The
>> Delta saw is American
> made
>> (for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear
>> Swiss
> but
>> made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and
>> Bosch router. So my question, which is the better saw?
>>
>> Jet =
>>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006S7CP/103-3447138-11
> 91016?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I3SPZFI62IOJ16&colid=2OY4IQIN2GII8
>>
>> Delta =
>>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A25Y8/qid=1083870564
> /sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-3447138-1191016?v=glance&s=home-garden&n=507846
>>
>> Gary
>>
>
> You folks really disappoint me (I'm kidding, of course). Ain't 'choo
> got no brand loyalty? Ask me which I prefer, Ford or Chevy, I'll say
> Chevy every time. I certainly wouldn't say, it depends on the color.
> So come guys, in your heart of hearts, which saw is better?
> Thank you for your responses, anyway.
>
> Gary
>
Don't go there, on brand loyalty. The 'suits' are in charge, and the group
of companies which is Delta/Porter-Cable/et al is for sale.
Both are decent products, as are others. Which dealer do you want to deal
with, should there be a problem? That's likely the more critical question.
Patriarch,
who, BTW, drives GMC trucks, and sensible european automobiles.
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Replaced? No. Inherited? Maybe. I know it's tough to consider, but some
> of my heirs probably won't want to work wood. I hope they have enough
trees
> around to make it a real decision.
The Audacity...!!!!! Inherit a fine tool or machine and sell it....
Humph. ;~)
"Eric Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I also think if you lift up the skirts on that Jet
> and have a look you will find the trunion design inferior to to the
Delta...
> but hell I'm just an armchair engineer so thats not a really informed
> opinion...
>
> EJ
May be inferior but you hear and I have seen Delta trunions being broken
more often than all others combined. I seriously doubt you could see the
difference.
I say Delta, for one reason. Resale value.
--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com
"Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
> it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
> Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The Delta saw is American
made
> (for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear Swiss
but
> made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and Bosch
> router. So my question, which is the better saw?
>
> Jet =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006S7CP/103-3447138-1191016
?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I3SPZFI62IOJ16&colid=2OY4IQIN2GII8
>
> Delta =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A25Y8/qid=1083870564/sr=8
-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-3447138-1191016?v=glance&s=home-garden&n=507846
>
> Gary
>
>
"Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
> it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
> Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The Delta saw is American
made
> (for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear Swiss
but
> made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and Bosch
> router. So my question, which is the better saw?
>
> Jet =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006S7CP/103-3447138-1191016?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I3SPZFI62IOJ16&colid=2OY4IQIN2GII8
>
> Delta =
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A25Y8/qid=1083870564/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-3447138-1191016?v=glance&s=home-garden&n=507846
>
> Gary
>
You folks really disappoint me (I'm kidding, of course). Ain't 'choo got no
brand loyalty? Ask me which I prefer, Ford or Chevy, I'll say Chevy every
time. I certainly wouldn't say, it depends on the color. So come guys, in
your heart of hearts, which saw is better?
Thank you for your responses, anyway.
Gary
I went with the Unisaw myself but I live in a pretty remote corner of
Wisconsin and service was a factor, although after 6 years I have yet to
need service. I do think if it's a matters for you the splitter/guard design
on the Unisaw is superior to the Jet for setup as well as quick easy removal
when it has to come off. I also think if you lift up the skirts on that Jet
and have a look you will find the trunion design inferior to to the Delta...
but hell I'm just an armchair engineer so thats not a really informed
opinion...
EJ
3 things steared me to the Jet.
Backwards tilt (is it left or right? Depends on where you're standing!)
availability: I wanted the dust to go out the correct side of the machine
for my dust collection design.
When I touched the machines, the Unisaw had a lousy feel the the tilt and
blade elevation wheels. The jet was smooth as silk. I *assume* that this is
a not a function of sloppy showroom setup which is almost ubiquitous across
brands. I could be all wet, but it left an impression
About $200.
In retrospect, it's still a coin flip.
-Steve
I have the Jet, in the package you describe. It's a terrific saw,
and the router and router lift are excellent. Jet has fine tech support.
So, from my prspective, go Jet.
And check local dealers. I bought mine locally, and
they delivered it free, helped me set it up, etc. And making a
major purchase from a local dealer can enhance your relationship
with them, leading to deals down the road.
-- Andy Barss
Would have to go with the General 650. Open the covers and you'd agree.
"Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Ok, my shop construction is nearly complete and now is the time to furnish
> it. I'm going batty trying to decide on which saw to buy, either a Delta
> Unisaw with a 50" Biesmeyer fence or a Jet . The Delta saw is American made
> (for now) and sells for $1,799 everywhere, while the Jet is I hear Swiss but
> made in Tiawan and sells for $1,699 and comes with a router lift and Bosch
> router. So my question, which is the better saw?
On Fri, 07 May 2004 00:15:20 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well at the risk of being flamed.. Brand loyalty is kinda dumb when it
>comes to wood working tools.
------ Snip good advice ------
This is why I rarely buy tools without touching them.
The only point I can add is feel. People's hands are different. For
instance, I love the way a certain brand of cordless drill feels in my
hand, others hate it.
I'm even pickier with hand tools, so if I buy any by mail, they always
come from somewhere with a liberal return policy. Sometimes, there
may be nothing "wrong" with a particular tool, only that I prefer the
feel of another.
Barry
Well at the risk of being flamed.. Brand loyalty is kinda dumb when it
comes to wood working tools.
PC makes great tools. Their 556 Plate Joiner, Detail sander and one of
their routers was crap. Bosch makes great tools. I have 2 Bosch routers
and have broken 3 of their drills, one with a Bosch rep watching. Skil
makes a great worm drive circle saw. You can keep the rest of the Skil
equipment. A year ago I would say go with a Milwaukee jig saw and pass on
the Bosch. Today, now that the Bosch has a very recently come out with a
good and finally fast blade change system like the Milwaukee I would say get
either one. And so on and so on and so on. Go with the brand that
currently is producing the better tool.
> When I faced a similar decision Keeter's advice helped me decide. Here's
a repost of his message from 02/14/2001:
SNIP
>
> The Jet:
> If you are the type that wears an ascot in the shop, the Jet
> is the way to go for you. You'll enjoy the hours spent
> cleaning, waxing and maintaining it's creamy white color.
> Before long you'll be sporting a monocle and one of those
> long cigarette holders. The children will learn to love
> being called Scooter and Buffy.
Like, OH MY GAUD..... I have the Jet and my sons nick name is
Scooter.... no kidding...
But I always wear blue jeans... and my saw has a great brown spot the same
size and shape as my hand and fingers.... no kidding.. LOL