Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I was
thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want to
buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to have
nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
better/cheaper place! Thanks.
Subw00er wrote:
> Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I was
> thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want to
> buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to
> have nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
> better/cheaper place! Thanks.
Why don't you do your major runs with schedule 40 pvc and drops from your
blast gates with flex hose? The best price I have seen on hose is from
Northern Tool at about $39.99 for 50'. PVC is available locally, of
course.
Also, if you go with 3" you will be faced with either going up to 4" for
your blast gates and drops or finding 3" hose and blast gates, which may
not be that easy.
Deb
Order from Grizzly. They have all the part you need.
"Subw00er" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I was
> thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want to
> buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to
have
> nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
> better/cheaper place! Thanks.
>
>
I ran some calcs on the spreadsheet. You'll be ok if you stick to the short
run configuration you stated and can live with about 350-400 scfm. That's
assuming you have a real 1 hp motor with a standard dust collector blower.
You called it a vac in one of your sentences. There's a world of difference
between a dust collector and a shop vacuum.
Bob
"Subw00er" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm a little scared by these posts? I'm planning on using the 1hp
collector
> for one tool at a time. I was going to use metal blast gates:
>
>
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&Product_ID=13427&Line_ID=4169214&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0
>
> before going to each length of tube that goes to each tool. The longest
run
> would be about 10', and I'd run all 4". I've used the vac with about a 5'
> run on a planer and it works very well, surprisingly well. I plan on
buying
> this clear 4" hose:
>
>
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30044&category=1%2C42401&ccurrency=3&SID=
>
> I called and its not absolutely smooth on the inside, but more of a wavy
> relief. This is good enough for me as the price of the good stuff
mentioned
> on that page Bob is about double the price. I'm not that hardcore!
>
> I'd only have two y-splitters (not T-splitters!) and would connect the
tube
> to the machines without elbows or tight corners. I think it should all be
ok
> as long as I don't expect to use the vac fro more than one machine at a
time
> (which I dont!). I mean, I'm only using one machine at time, and right now
> I'm actually swapping the hose from machine to machine as I work and
that's
> a real PITA.
>
> Anyway, do you all still think I'm making a mistake? This Reliant vac may
> only be 1hp but its certainly better than the 1/2 hp shop vac I was
using -
> much quieter too! Thanks for the replies so far!
>
>
> "Bob Davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > 1 hp is a pretty weak collector to use for a dust collection system. 1
hp
> > collectors are designed for local portable use with a short run of hose
to
> > one tool. It sounds like you are going to put some time, effort and
money
> > into piping. You might do some sizing before going forward to see if
your
> > dust collector can cope with it. Here's a website that has information
> on
> > sizing and calculations and just about everything else on dust
collection:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3g2el
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > "Subw00er" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:Ee%[email protected]...
> > > Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I
was
> > > thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want
> to
> > > buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to
> > have
> > > nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
> > > better/cheaper place! Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
The guy dressed in brown (UPS) left my door step just awhile ago. He
delivered my new Penn State Industries (tuff for a U of M fan) dust
collector. It's assembled and ready to pick up my saw dust tonight.
Three things stand out.
1) switch tab was broken (they are sending a new switch).
2) motor rubbed housing cover when first turned on. Tech Service told
me to pry it out. I suggested a new gasket is in order since the one
in place seems to have been over compressed thus allowing contact
between cover and impellor (one hopefully is on it's way).
3) finish is okay (better in visible areas as opposed to under the
stand (no biggie), 1 micron bags do not have sewn in clamps as those
poor instructions say they do (VERY adjustable clamps are included
however).
IT's a bit louder than anticipated based upon listening to Jet DCs at
a recent woodshop. However, this PS got great reviews and decided to
try it.
Penn State seems to have a decent selection of DC accessories. Mine
came with free 8' long flex tube ($14.95 value).
"Subw00er" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<Ee%[email protected]>...
> Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I was
> thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want to
> buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to have
> nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
> better/cheaper place! Thanks.
Excellent post Subw00er very informative site. A 1 HP dust collector
will not be sufficient with what you are planning. I have a 1 HP and
tried using 2 Ducts with a Y connector with Router table and saw .
Have found very weak just about worthless in suction power to do the
job. Go for at least a 2 HP. Else you can get by with blast gates and
use 1 at a time with a 1 HP.
"Subw00er" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> After reading this site:
> http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/Ducting.cfm#Ducting%20Introduction
> I may stay with 4". Seems like you and others recommend that too. I was
> mainly looking forward to not having such bulky hose lying around, and since
> my router table/saw both exit down, routing on the ceiling is not the best
> idea. My ceilings are also pretty low. I'll have to think about this a bit
> more! Thanks.
>
>
> "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Subw00er wrote:
> >
> > > Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I was
> > > thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want
> to
> > > buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to
> > > have nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
> > > better/cheaper place! Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Why don't you do your major runs with schedule 40 pvc and drops from your
> > blast gates with flex hose? The best price I have seen on hose is from
> > Northern Tool at about $39.99 for 50'. PVC is available locally, of
> > course.
> >
> > Also, if you go with 3" you will be faced with either going up to 4" for
> > your blast gates and drops or finding 3" hose and blast gates, which may
> > not be that easy.
> >
> > Deb
I agree with you I also have a 1 HP Reliant that I'm using not great
but using one device at a time does a sufficient Job. I was told by a
reliable source that most Dust collection motors are the same, and
manufactured in Taiwan only the name and mounting bracket are
different. Did not want to pay more for the name brand and color of a
simple machine. I like yourself do manual switching hose connections
and it's a PITA also the connecting and disconnecting the hose tends
to destroy the hose at the ends. You can try 2 devices at a time and
see for yourself not enough suction for a 1HP. Someday I'll install
permanent PVC tubing.
"Subw00er" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm a little scared by these posts? I'm planning on using the 1hp collector
> for one tool at a time. I was going to use metal blast gates:
>
> http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&Product_ID=13427&Line_ID=4169214&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0
>
> before going to each length of tube that goes to each tool. The longest run
> would be about 10', and I'd run all 4". I've used the vac with about a 5'
> run on a planer and it works very well, surprisingly well. I plan on buying
> this clear 4" hose:
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30044&category=1%2C42401&ccurrency=3&SID=
>
> I called and its not absolutely smooth on the inside, but more of a wavy
> relief. This is good enough for me as the price of the good stuff mentioned
> on that page Bob is about double the price. I'm not that hardcore!
>
> I'd only have two y-splitters (not T-splitters!) and would connect the tube
> to the machines without elbows or tight corners. I think it should all be ok
> as long as I don't expect to use the vac fro more than one machine at a time
> (which I dont!). I mean, I'm only using one machine at time, and right now
> I'm actually swapping the hose from machine to machine as I work and that's
> a real PITA.
>
> Anyway, do you all still think I'm making a mistake? This Reliant vac may
> only be 1hp but its certainly better than the 1/2 hp shop vac I was using -
> much quieter too! Thanks for the replies so far!
>
>
> "Bob Davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > 1 hp is a pretty weak collector to use for a dust collection system. 1 hp
> > collectors are designed for local portable use with a short run of hose to
> > one tool. It sounds like you are going to put some time, effort and money
> > into piping. You might do some sizing before going forward to see if your
> > dust collector can cope with it. Here's a website that has information
> on
> > sizing and calculations and just about everything else on dust collection:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3g2el
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > "Subw00er" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:Ee%[email protected]...
> > > Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I was
> > > thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want
> to
> > > buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to
> have
> > > nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
> > > better/cheaper place! Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
I'm a little scared by these posts? I'm planning on using the 1hp collector
for one tool at a time. I was going to use metal blast gates:
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/basket/editdetl.cfm?&Product_ID=13427&Line_ID=4169214&ECompany_ID=1&historycount=-1&rso=0
before going to each length of tube that goes to each tool. The longest run
would be about 10', and I'd run all 4". I've used the vac with about a 5'
run on a planer and it works very well, surprisingly well. I plan on buying
this clear 4" hose:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30044&category=1%2C42401&ccurrency=3&SID=
I called and its not absolutely smooth on the inside, but more of a wavy
relief. This is good enough for me as the price of the good stuff mentioned
on that page Bob is about double the price. I'm not that hardcore!
I'd only have two y-splitters (not T-splitters!) and would connect the tube
to the machines without elbows or tight corners. I think it should all be ok
as long as I don't expect to use the vac fro more than one machine at a time
(which I dont!). I mean, I'm only using one machine at time, and right now
I'm actually swapping the hose from machine to machine as I work and that's
a real PITA.
Anyway, do you all still think I'm making a mistake? This Reliant vac may
only be 1hp but its certainly better than the 1/2 hp shop vac I was using -
much quieter too! Thanks for the replies so far!
"Bob Davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 1 hp is a pretty weak collector to use for a dust collection system. 1 hp
> collectors are designed for local portable use with a short run of hose to
> one tool. It sounds like you are going to put some time, effort and money
> into piping. You might do some sizing before going forward to see if your
> dust collector can cope with it. Here's a website that has information
on
> sizing and calculations and just about everything else on dust collection:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3g2el
>
> Bob
>
> "Subw00er" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Ee%[email protected]...
> > Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I was
> > thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want
to
> > buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to
> have
> > nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
> > better/cheaper place! Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
1 hp is a pretty weak collector to use for a dust collection system. 1 hp
collectors are designed for local portable use with a short run of hose to
one tool. It sounds like you are going to put some time, effort and money
into piping. You might do some sizing before going forward to see if your
dust collector can cope with it. Here's a website that has information on
sizing and calculations and just about everything else on dust collection:
http://tinyurl.com/3g2el
Bob
"Subw00er" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Ee%[email protected]...
> Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I was
> thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want to
> buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to
have
> nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
> better/cheaper place! Thanks.
>
>
After reading this site:
http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/Ducting.cfm#Ducting%20Introduction
I may stay with 4". Seems like you and others recommend that too. I was
mainly looking forward to not having such bulky hose lying around, and since
my router table/saw both exit down, routing on the ceiling is not the best
idea. My ceilings are also pretty low. I'll have to think about this a bit
more! Thanks.
"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Subw00er wrote:
>
> > Where is a good place to order dust collection hose and fittings? I was
> > thinking of hooking up 5 machines, all to 3" (1hp collector), and want
to
> > buy it all at once. I'm looking at McMaster right now and they seem to
> > have nice stuff, just thought I'd ask before ordering if there was a
> > better/cheaper place! Thanks.
>
>
> Why don't you do your major runs with schedule 40 pvc and drops from your
> blast gates with flex hose? The best price I have seen on hose is from
> Northern Tool at about $39.99 for 50'. PVC is available locally, of
> course.
>
> Also, if you go with 3" you will be faced with either going up to 4" for
> your blast gates and drops or finding 3" hose and blast gates, which may
> not be that easy.
>
> Deb