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Larry Laminger

28/01/2004 6:23 PM

Shop Full of Project.

I've got a small shop (2 1/2 car garage...no cars allowed). In this
small space, I've built tables, kitchen cabinets, tons of bookshelves
and a pretty big assortment of odds and ends. It sometimes takes a
little creativity , but it always has worked out. Even at it's fullest,
I've found place for more.

When my boss commissioned me to put a little something together for him,
I jumped at the chance. After all, it's January, cold and work is
traditionally slow this time of year. Well, this project has taxed my
space limitations.

"Come up with a Carriage House Door and display that we can set up at
the local home shows. Make it portable, safe and easy to set up.
Sometimes, we'll want the door to go up and down, other times it'll just
be a static display. The whole thing can only be 8' wide. Oh and
sometimes we'll want to display entry doors and windows. First show is
in 4 weeks."

So, working part-time (between spurts of heavy day job work) it's all
coming together. It all leaves in the morning on it's way to it's first
showing. The scary part is this will be the first time it's been in an
area big enough to be fully assembled.

It's been fun but I'll sure be glad to get my shop back. I've been
afraid to eat a Twinky. If I were to gain an ounce there's no way I
could fit into the shop!

Some photo's and other details can be found at:

http://woodworks.laminger.com/door.htm

--
Larry G. Laminger
http://woodworks.laminger.com


This topic has 17 replies

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Bridger

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

30/01/2004 10:07 PM

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 03:47:02 GMT, Mapdude <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Looks like a workbench in the middle of a maryjowanna field!!!???!!!???


it is California after all....


>
>Patrick Olguin wrote: Here's my *shop*:
>>
>> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse/underthelights.jpg
>> O'Deen

JT

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

29/01/2004 5:00 AM

Wed, Jan 28, 2004, 6:23pm (EST-1) [email protected]
(Larry=A0Laminger) claims:
I've got a small shop (2 1/2 car garage...no cars allowed). In this
small space, <snip>

Well, if you're looing for pity, with a line like that, doubt
you're gonna get much here. I'm pretty sure most of us have less space
then that. My shop is 8X12, so I know you're not getting any from me.

JOAT
There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, it's
probably in Tennessee --that says, fool me once, shame on ... shame on
you. Fool me ... You can't get fooled again..
- G.W. Bush quoted by the Baltimore Sun - Oct 6, 2002

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 28 Jan 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

02/03/2004 3:19 PM

On 1 Mar 2004 19:14:26 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
brought forth from the murky depths:

>problem. The first attempt was executed based on the vise hardware
>being installed backwards. The second attempt was executed based on
>the proper orientation of the vise hardware, but marked on the wrong
>side of the apron, resulting in two perfectly bored sets of holes,
>which unfortunately did not the basic requirement of matching the vise
>jaw.

Um, Ouch! Too much ale, wot?


>These holes were all carefully bored by hand, using a 10" brace and
>bit. The operator of the brace and bit was a bit tired by the time he

I can imagine. What takes a 10" bit, anyway? And where on
Earth did you find one?

But since you were tired (big dude like yourself), you prolly
should have whipped out that auger bit file _before_ doing
the job.


>got to that last set of holes, and to put it plainly - couldn't think
>for shit. Alcohol was not immediately involved, althought it did
>serve to take the edge off things once the third and final set of
>clearance holes were bored (in the apron and wooden jaw).

That's a nice bit of jaw there.


>The shotgun pattern of mistakes was left because the operator was too
>broke and too tired to go back to the home center and purchase a nice
>new 4x6 apron blank. They also serve as a harmless reminder of my
>human imperfection. On a not unrelated subject, I had the occasion to
>bore a hole to house a holdfast, and there was just enough wood to
>manage it.

I have similar markings (chipped laminate) around one edge (4")
of the kitchen sink, Paddy. They ruined the first countertop, I
did the second. <sigh>


>I'm sure I would have done better were I to have had a cabinet saw
>sitting nearby to serve as inspiration. That's my story and I'm
>sticking to it.

Well, at least you don't have to work on 2-piece Workmutts
any more, eh?


.-.
Better Living Through Denial
---
http://www.diversify.com Wondrous Website Design

MM

Mapdude

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

31/01/2004 3:47 AM

Looks like a workbench in the middle of a maryjowanna field!!!???!!!???

Patrick Olguin wrote:
> Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:41:02 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Larry Laminger wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've got a small shop (2 1/2 car garage...no cars allowed).
>>>
>>><g> Then I must have a teensy-weensy shop -- a one car garage that shares
>>>space with a freezer and two exercise machines.
>>
>>I win. My shop might be a one-car garage when it grows up, but right
>>now it's 12X16. It's all in how ya 'range things. I think I could
>>probably fit an executive nine-hole par 27 in your basement. ;>
>
>
> Hah! Not even close, Buckwheat. Yes, I did say Buckwheat. Here's my *shop*:
>
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse/underthelights.jpg
>
> And before we get too far afield in this thread - there's always the following:
> http://tinyurl.com/35tzd
>
> O'Deen

Gg

"Groggy"

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

30/01/2004 10:58 PM

You didn't notice the fancy schmancy outdoor shaving/mulch converter in the
lower left of the pic? Shameless display of wealth, we have to crush them up
with rocks. And pots for his plants - luxury! Holes in the ground is all we
can afford.

Groggy from the third whirled

BTW, what are license plates?

pP

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin)

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

30/01/2004 9:34 AM

Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:41:02 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Larry Laminger wrote:
> >> I've got a small shop (2 1/2 car garage...no cars allowed).
> >
> ><g> Then I must have a teensy-weensy shop -- a one car garage that shares
> >space with a freezer and two exercise machines.
>
> I win. My shop might be a one-car garage when it grows up, but right
> now it's 12X16. It's all in how ya 'range things. I think I could
> probably fit an executive nine-hole par 27 in your basement. ;>

Hah! Not even close, Buckwheat. Yes, I did say Buckwheat. Here's my *shop*:

http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse/underthelights.jpg

And before we get too far afield in this thread - there's always the following:
http://tinyurl.com/35tzd

O'Deen

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 30/01/2004 9:34 AM

31/01/2004 4:30 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Fri, Jan 30, 2004, 9:34am (EST-3) [email protected]
> (Patrick=A0Olguin) boasts:
> <snip> Here's my *shop*:
> http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse/underthelights.jpg <snip>
>
> Hmm, looks as big as all outdoors to me.
>

Looks OK, but I thought it rained in California? Seems like that
might be a tad rough on workbench tops.

> JOAT
> It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
> - Pete Maccarrone
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 29 Jan 2004.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
>

JT

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 30/01/2004 9:34 AM

30/01/2004 11:09 PM

Fri, Jan 30, 2004, 9:34am (EST-3) [email protected]
(Patrick=A0Olguin) boasts:
<snip> Here's my *shop*:
http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse/underthelights.jpg <snip>

Hmm, looks as big as all outdoors to me.

JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 29 Jan 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

pP

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin)

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

01/03/2004 7:14 PM

Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote, like a freaking
month ago:
> Yeah, I noticed. But I couldn't concentrate on it because I got all
> fixated on what's up with the random shotgun pattern of board jack peg
> holes over the right leg.

They weren't random. Take a close gander at the guide-rod/vise screw
pattern on that euro-style wooddorker vise:

http://www.klownhammer.org/proto-bench/part3/bench2.jpg

Now look again at the seemingly random board jack holes:

http://www.klownhammer.org/proto-bench/part3/bench1.jpg

Any similarities? What you first thought was random, were the botched
attempts at boring the guide-rod/lead-screw holes for the vise. The
holes were executed perfectly, however there was a basic requirements
problem. The first attempt was executed based on the vise hardware
being installed backwards. The second attempt was executed based on
the proper orientation of the vise hardware, but marked on the wrong
side of the apron, resulting in two perfectly bored sets of holes,
which unfortunately did not the basic requirement of matching the vise
jaw.

These holes were all carefully bored by hand, using a 10" brace and
bit. The operator of the brace and bit was a bit tired by the time he
got to that last set of holes, and to put it plainly - couldn't think
for shit. Alcohol was not immediately involved, althought it did
serve to take the edge off things once the third and final set of
clearance holes were bored (in the apron and wooden jaw).

The shotgun pattern of mistakes was left because the operator was too
broke and too tired to go back to the home center and purchase a nice
new 4x6 apron blank. They also serve as a harmless reminder of my
human imperfection. On a not unrelated subject, I had the occasion to
bore a hole to house a holdfast, and there was just enough wood to
manage it.

I'm sure I would have done better were I to have had a cabinet saw
sitting nearby to serve as inspiration. That's my story and I'm
sticking to it.

O'Deen

MB

Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

30/01/2004 5:09 AM

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:41:02 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Larry Laminger wrote:
>> I've got a small shop (2 1/2 car garage...no cars allowed).
>
><g> Then I must have a teensy-weensy shop -- a one car garage that shares
>space with a freezer and two exercise machines.

I win. My shop might be a one-car garage when it grows up, but right
now it's 12X16. It's all in how ya 'range things. I think I could
probably fit an executive nine-hole par 27 in your basement. ;>

Btw, I've found "exercise" machines take up a LOT less room if I
position them exactly halfway between the dumpsters at the recycling
center. :)

Michael

MB

Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

31/01/2004 4:06 AM

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:58:30 GMT, "Groggy" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>You didn't notice the fancy schmancy outdoor shaving/mulch converter in the
>lower left of the pic?

Yeah, I noticed. But I couldn't concentrate on it because I got all
fixated on what's up with the random shotgun pattern of board jack peg
holes over the right leg. Man, they're like _microns_ away from each
other. I can't help it-- trying to imagine what the _problem_ was
that caused _that_ to be the solution. :)

"I need a board jack.... and a beer."
<Drill fx> VVVVVVVVVVVvvvvvvvvrrrrrrrrrr... </Drill fx>

"Damn! I need this board jack 3 millllllllimeters higher....and
another beer."
<Mo' drill fx> VVVVVVVVVVvvvvvvvvvrrrrrrrrrrr... </Mo' fx>

"Sh*t!!! Too high! 1 milllimeter LOWER! Where's my beer?"
<Still mo' fx> VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVvvvvvvvvvvrrrrr... </Still mo' fx>

"Damn!"
...etc., etc., etc. A maniacal O'Deen goes berserk with the
Hammuhdrill.

You get the picture. I have a strange imagination.

(But even so, dat's a lotta holes. Ya just gotta _know_ there's a
story there.)

I do this a lot when looking at pictures on ABPW. I really shouldn't
be allowed over there without adult supervision and some serious meds.
Some justifiably proud guy will be showing off his life's-work
took-him-hundreds-of-hours Chippendale Highboy, and I'll be fixating
on the kitty litter and the Costco sized case of PEZ <tm PEZ> three
shelves up the wall. :)

Michael
OBWW:
I poly'd the workshop floor today. I'm blaming all this on the fumes.

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

29/01/2004 3:11 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
T. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Wed, Jan 28, 2004, 6:23pm (EST-1) [email protected]
>(Larry Laminger) claims:
>I've got a small shop (2 1/2 car garage...no cars allowed). In this
>small space, <snip>
>
> Well, if you're looing for pity, with a line like that, doubt
>you're gonna get much here. I'm pretty sure most of us have less space
>then that. My shop is 8X12, so I know you're not getting any from me.

Would you believe 5x8 usable, in a 9x12 room shared w/ 4 sets of utility
shelving, 5 file-cabinets plus some other clutter.

JT

in reply to [email protected] (Robert Bonomi) on 29/01/2004 3:11 PM

29/01/2004 6:49 PM

Thu, Jan 29, 2004, 3:11pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(Robert=A0Bonomi) says:
Would you believe 5x8 usable, in a 9x12 room =A0 shared w/ 4 sets of
utility shelving, 5 file-cabinets plus some other clutter.

Ah, I can just feel your pity for that unfortunate soul, with only
a 2 1/2 car shop. LMAO

Well, at least you can use the shelving and atop the cabinets for
tool, and wood, storage. Beats nothing. My younger son is living with
me again, and the front of my shop is taken up with a good deal of his
stuff, amounting to close to 3-4 feet of space. Still, beats no shop at
all. Now I've got my camera working again, I really should take some
more pictures. Check it out.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETHINGSIVEMADE/

JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 28 Jan 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

01/03/2004 10:34 PM

On 1 Mar 2004 19:14:26 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:

>Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote, like a freaking
>month ago:
>> Yeah, I noticed. But I couldn't concentrate on it because I got all
>> fixated on what's up with the random shotgun pattern of board jack peg
>> holes over the right leg.
>
>They weren't random. Take a close gander at the guide-rod/vise screw
>pattern on that euro-style wooddorker vise:
>



This is the little seen intersection of Brownian Motion with Chaos
Theory.

Certain medications will ameliorate this effect.

If taken in appropriate dosages.

On a Friday.



Thomas J. Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
(Real Email is tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

28/01/2004 11:41 PM

Larry Laminger wrote:
> I've got a small shop (2 1/2 car garage...no cars allowed).

<g> Then I must have a teensy-weensy shop -- a one car garage that shares
space with a freezer and two exercise machines. Plus there is a door in
each of the 4 walls so one one wall can be completely used.

-- Mark

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

29/01/2004 5:28 AM

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:23:08 -0600, Larry Laminger
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>It's been fun but I'll sure be glad to get my shop back. I've been
>afraid to eat a Twinky. If I were to gain an ounce there's no way I
>could fit into the shop!

You'd burn off a full box of Twinkies just moving that thing.


>Some photo's and other details can be found at:
>
>http://woodworks.laminger.com/door.htm

Good job! It's good that it was a commissioned thing.


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Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

in reply to Larry Laminger on 28/01/2004 6:23 PM

30/01/2004 7:14 PM

On 30 Jan 2004 09:34:37 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:

>Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> I win. My shop might be a one-car garage when it grows up, but right
>> now it's 12X16. It's all in how ya 'range things. I think I could
>> probably fit an executive nine-hole par 27 in your basement. ;>
>
>Hah! Not even close, Buckwheat. Yes, I did say Buckwheat. Here's my *shop*:
>
>http://www.klownhammer.org/cathouse/underthelights.jpg

Ha! HaHAA!! You have a _real_ bench. And LIGHTING. And... and
stuff!!!

I, on the other hand, have to EARN my way around wooddorking. I have
to put off "lights" until summer when I can crutch my way around the
grassy strip between the freight cars hoping to mayonnaise-jar some
lightening bugs so they can cast their glow over the broken-legged
ironing board _I_ have to do my woodworking on.

And what's THAT? Is that a plane I see? And vices? I has to use a
old '59 Michigan licence plate ( <--- Didja notice the drive-by? <---
See *1) I sharpen on the cement landing next to the #8 Railroad Siding
when I need a plane!

Oh, and btw, _Nice_ vices there sissyboy. I have to use a couple of
tire jacks I got outta some sprung-open trunks down at the Au-Tow Dump
to clamp my pallet wood between. Some guys... got it too easy.

I'd write more, but I can't until I feed the chickens. (See
http://www.mystique.net/amish.html )

>O'Deen
O'Bagli

*1) If you have to use a licence plate for a plane, it pays to search
for one from the Motor City state. The prisoners there, (rightly or
wrongly), take PRIDE in their cars, and use heavier duty metalstuffs
to make their plates. Avoid, at all costs, plates from... like...
Idaho and Korea, where either the salt from the winters corrodes them
too badly or they're dented beyond repair 'cause on account of like
driving while Oriental. They're a bitch to straighten out especially
when all you got is the TireJack Vice System <tm me> and they don't
keep an "edge." DAMHIKT.


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